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You'll never get all of it, especially the smaller particles that help bind dust.

 

Yea but that should not be causing issues when I've been using it with no problems for a year.

 

This review:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schen...0-Clevo-P775TM1-G-Laptop-Review.413126.0.html

covers the configuration I am interested in, except that I would probably take the RTX 2060 to save some money (and I don’t really need the graphics performance).

The review states that the processor effectively doesn’t throttle due to thermal limits. That’s a big plus for me, if it is the case. I would appreciate hearing from persons with this or similar configuration P775TM1-G whether that’s the case.

The review also states that the UHD Graphics 630 cannot be used as the “G-Sync” forces the laptop to use its dedicated graphics card. Is there any way to disable G-Sync in order to use the UHD Graphics 630?

I assume that this Prostar laptop, suitably configured:

https://www.pro-star.com/p775tm1-g3.html

Or this LPC Digital laptop, again suitably configured:

https://lpc-digital.com/product/sager-np9176-g3-clevo-p775tm1-g/?ex=1

Are essentially same as the Schenker and would have similar performance characteristics?

I may wait until the next iteration of processor comes out, presumably with a 10 core/20 thread processor, but then again the current version looks quite powerful. My primary concern is avoiding processor thermal throttling.

 

Clevo laptops with LGA socket doesn't have iGPU conected. And can't be activated due hardware design.

P775TM1 is a barbone chassis from Clevo. And they all should perform equal whatever where you get it.

But I would go with a Prema partner shop. This because of the awesome @Prema Mod Firmware.


EVOC High Performance Systems P775TM-R - 17.3" FHD 144Hz / QHD 120Hz / QFHD 60Hz - i5-9600K / i7-9700K / i9-9900K - RTX 2060 / 2070 / 2080

 

Yeah the IGP part of the chip is not even powered.

 

At this point I'm lost for ideas on how to fix my issues. 2x I've reinstall windows and still have the issues. I'm most likely going to send my laptop back for HIDevolution to take a look.

 

Sounds like a good idea at this point.

 

Hi!
Is anyone using this laptop with a delidded 8700k cpu?

I delidded my 8700k 2x times and for the second time I used TGC.
On the IHS I applied Kryonaut.

By laptop standards compared to 8750H I think my temps are ok however compared to the supposed miracle Delid results shown here with Clevo laptops my result is not really Good.

I did several Cinenebench r15 my temp maxed out at 80C. This is about 10C better before delid.
After 35 min Crysis 3 my peak temp was 84C.
Max tdp was 84W.
Cpu was set at 4.5 GHz with 125mv UV.

This is in my opinion Good compared to other laptops which give same result with much lower clocks and tdp.

I use obsidian software and set fans to Max above 70C temp however if the cpu is stressed for a longer time it will just warm up slowly.
I suspect that this cooling just cant handle 80-96W tdp even with a delidded cpu.

Has anyone been able to keep with cpu under 70C with a delidded cpu in this laptop or thats impossible with this cooling?

I think the cpu delid and cooler mounting are excellent since during cinebwnch there is only 1-2C diffwrence between cores, if either would be bad this would be higher.

What I do not understand is that how are some people getting lower tdp... For example I watched crysis 3 video made by phoenix with p870 and he was grtting lower tdp in the same area with higher clock....

Or my delidded temps are perfectly fine and this cooling can not do better?

 

This is BF1 on ultra with my de-lidded 8600K at 4.7GHz stock voltage. I normally use -40mV which is about 5C lower but forgot to apply it in this video.

 

Is this with a p775tm1?
Seems better than mine, now I really dont understand why I have higher temp...

Did you manually set Max fan?

 

This is the P750TM1-G in my sig. Yeah fans were manually set to max. I don’t use CCC/Obsidian and the auto fan curve doesn’t max out until 80C.

I also used LM and a 0.5mm copper shim on the IHS, which is the Rockitcool copper IHS not the stock Intel IHS.

 

Well that explains some

 

Yeah. I did a bit of work on my unit last year to get the thermals to where they are now. If you did what I did, you should have lower temps than me since the 17.3” has thicker rads and heatpipes and RTX 2080 is a much easier to cool GPU.

 

That 0.5mm tweaking makes all the difference.

 

Can someone post a link to this tweak?

 

Not much to it, just a 30mmx30mmx0.5mm copper shim, with LM applied to both sides, as well as to the IHS and heatsink.

 

How do you have the GPU power showing? Mine disappeared a long time ago.

 

Added it using HWiNFO plugin.

 

I don't even have it in hwinfo. Are you using standard or DCH drivers?

 

Your temps are better then mine with higher overclock so I think it's fine. Only reason why mine are low is temps in BFV as well as this stupid power limit bug I have when I have clocks higher then 4.3 4.4 ghz.

 

But is your cpu delidded?

 

Yes it is.

 

So just a tip for anyone missing GPU Power. I uninstalled the DCH drivers with DDU and installed the standard drivers and GPU Power came back. I noticed that the GTX 1080 is stuck @ 140 - 150W, didn't know this before.

 

Shims, thermal pad adjustment, that kind of thing.

 

Shims, thermal pad adjustment, that kind of thing.

 

Sounds like the CPU VRMs are overheating and the system is trying to protect itself...undervolt the CPU (negative 100-125mV voltage offset) and make sure that the thermal pads are making proper contact in that area.
BF is very CPU heavy...

 

100mv is not stable, and this only happened with the latest BIOS.

 

What's the bios version?

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Older versions had a lot lower performance and an automatic 100mV undervolt. Now you have to set whatever undervolt works for your chip manually.

more power = more heat >>> thermal protection mechanism

 

1.07

so you're saying that i had a 195mv before? I was on 1.05 before.

 

No. Those versions simply force a 100mV undervolt without making any changes. Depending on implementation all manual adjustments are simply reseted/ignored.

To see the actual voltage offset, just load and save BIOS setup defaults.
Then in Windows start Throttlestop to see the current offset (must delete .ini file before or old values will be restored).
Simply set undervolts in TS and use its bench feature to test stability, then set values permanently in BIOS afterwards so that you no longer need it.

 

My system is not stable with anything more then 90mv. So I have no idea where all these issues came from

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...m-owners-lounge.809621/page-288#post-10949865

If you don't like to do that (checking for the VRM heatsink contact), you will have to let it manually throttle like before to keep them cooler. In BIOS simply set:

Power Limit Long: 95000
Power Limit Short: 115000
VR current: 480

In addition to the manual 90mV negative voltage offset / undervolt.

Good luck!

 

Some chips are just not as good as others voltage wise.

 

Where are the VRMs located? I don't see them around the CPU socket.

 

MOSFETs, inductors (chokes) behind the socket. You need 4mm and 2mm thermal pads for that.



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I've only seen them on the GPU but never around the CPU.

 

These..

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It's only 4 phases? Or is it doubled? When I get home I'm going to see if there are thermal pads and hopefully fix my power limit issue.

 

4 phase yes, 4 inductors so cant be more.

Every chip has to have some power circuitry.

 

That seems quite low for a 8700K let alone 9900K.

 

Spoiler

 

So 4+1, from my understanding of vrms.

 

Hi Prema, check inbox please? I tried to contact you.

 

Yes the other will be the SOC rail, one clue is all inductors will be equal in value to balance the phases as will the number of chips.

Phase count when you are at 4 means less than overall design and for a CPU more ability to cope with transients.

 

Hi, question for anyone that may know.

Just would like to know if anyone has a diagram or whatnot of pad thickness on the GPU? I got the CPU one down with 2mm and 4mm ones, but the GPU one seems to be all over the place.

P775TM1-G with a 1080, originally by Pro-star. OO changed pads out for grizzly and fujipoly but I want to be sure they are the correct height, figured I'd just re-do them all

 

You need 1mm(ram) and 1.5mm pads( MOSFETs, inductors (chokes)). You'll need small piece of 3.5-4mm as well.

Gelid GP extreme pads are good and they are soft as well.

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If your thinnest pad is 1mm then you need to lower all your values by 0.5mm

 

In this case, would you recommend using 0.5mm RAM then 1mm for the others?

 

Original pads are 1.5mm/2mm and one small 4mm piece. They are very soft so they will squeeze and compress when you tighten up screws.

Get 1mm/1.5mm pads. Gelid GP extreme have higher 12W/mk rating and they are soft as well (also cheaper). For the small 4mm part required, you can stack up thinner pads.

If pads not squeeze in properly they will increase gap between the chip (GPU/IHS) and reduce heat transfer.


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