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    *** Official Sager NP9175 / Clevo P775TM Owner's Lounge! ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 6, 2017.

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    Where as getting that final 0.5mm sorted will tend to lower temps by 12c on the chip and thinner pads perform better than thicker pads.
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    A good trick that I found was to test the fit the gpu with the heatsink before installing it into the chassis. Then using a flashlight check how the contact between the components is and adjust if needed.
     
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    I did the thinnest pads first (usually vram) to get the fit even and aligned it outside the case too.
     
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    Hi everyone. So...standard p775tm1-g... How many TB's of HDD can i put inside one. Not talking about ssd's. I don't want to cut hdd lid. Is 2TB+2TB the limit?
    Or has there been a progress among 2.5hdd technology.
     
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    2.5hdd tech is basically dead, no demand seever side so that's going to be the same as always.
     
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    You can put inside 2x ssd 4tb :=)

    Fastest Customizable Gaming Notebooks & Mobile Workstations | CLEVO Integrator
     
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    He said not talking SSDs ;)
     
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    Can it support 128gb Ram with 32x4 ?
     
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    iRoxas Notebook Guru

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    Obsidian-PC has to have the worst support I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with. I sent a message 2 weeks ago asking about a tracking number for the fan they were going to ship me, and I get no response, and I've been talking with them since JULY to try to get a fan, like what is this. Really should've gone with someone else tbh.
     
  11. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    I think there is a good reason for this, I remember John@OBSIDIAN-PC mentioned that they were hit with a lot of stuff recently. It's of course unfortunate that you might have been caught in the middle of this. Have you tried contacting them on the phone?
     
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    They're in another country and I don't have anything that supports international calling, I'm thinking a ticket would've done just fine. At least they said they were going to ship the fan but it took so long to get to that point, and I still don't have a tracking number to know where it is.
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    @John@OBSIDIAN-PC maybe can help out @iRoxas

     
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    Hopefully john is ok, if you can setup that call it can help speaking rather than emailing.
     
  16. Z3us_PL

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    Did anyone upgrade from 1080 to 2080 in TM1 G-sync?
     
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    Yes, lost g-sync obviously and it required a bios mod. It's a lot of money for a small bump in performance.
     
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    what is the upgrade price to 2080 with heatsink?
     
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    I only asked the price for me at cost and went no, let's put it that way.
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    I think an upgrade kit (rtx2080+heatsink) is around 1800$ and that's probably before taxes and shipping. A hefty lump of change for ~15% performance. Temps might be better in the p775tm1 compared to a 1080 but the cooling will always be the limiting factor in this chassis.
     
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    Setting a good curve on the 1080 will give you almost the same experience.
     
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    My reseller told me that upgrade costs 1650$ after taxes (with heatsink). So If I sell 1080 for about, I think maybe 600$, than 1650-600= 1050$ for 2080 upgrade. it's a tolerable offer for this card.
    On stock it has ~9,7k timespy graphics score, 1080 has ~7k. I know that 1080 can be OC and uV, but still it's very hot and doing much noise.
     
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    Ignore timespy and look at games.
     
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    I'm looking right now. The newest game "Control".
    1920x1080 High Quality Preset (DX11):

    GTX 1080 (laptop) in Alienware R4 (7820HK): avg. 62 fps
    GTX 1080 (desktop) 9900K: avg. 67 fps

    RTX 2080 (laptop) in MSI GT76 Titan (9900K): avg. 94 fps
    RTX 2080 (desktop) 9900K: avg. 106 fps.

    And it is without Ray tracing.

    With Ray traysing:
    GTX 1080 17fps
    RTX 2080 56 fps

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Control-Laptop-and-Desktop-Benchmarks.434725.0.html
     
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    Yes a lot of more modern games highly favor the Turing and Navi architectures, regardless of RTX features. The new Call of Duty: Modern Warfare is the same way.
    [​IMG]

    Pascal is looking a lot like what happened to Kepler around the time Maxwell II came out, and new multi-platform AAA games started to run significantly better on Maxwell II and GCN. If you recall, that was a pretty big controversy back in the day, with a lot of people automatically jumping to the (incorrect) conclusion that Nvidia was gimping Kepler in drivers.
     
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    Update on the fan thing: They said they were trying to find someone that would ship it directly to me, but all of the options are too expensive, and they don't know what to do. I can't really afford that shipping either, which would be more than just buying the fan from RJTech. I really don't think they should sell internationally if they can't handle international shipping for when a warranty request happens. That's never mentioned on their warranty page either.
     
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    I would just wait for next gen. Intel 10 gen and Amper. Upgrading to 2080 is not worth it.
     
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    I think that they will figure out a way to block the upgrade to Ampere on 775TM by simply changing the shape of the PCB and power cable again
     
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    Is there a diagram showing what thickness of thermal pads are needed for the VRMs? Can't seem to find it.
     
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    CPU or GPU?

    Sent from my SM-N976B using Tapatalk
     
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    That does suck. How much will the replacement fan w/ shipping cost you?
     
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    International shipping is the responsibility of the purchaser for warranty claims. You could look into companies that you could commission to go to them.
     
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    So from my understanding i need 4mm pad on the CPU VRM im just going to stack the 1.5 and 1mm together to get 4.5mm is that ok?
     
  37. Papusan

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    You'll lose 50% thermal conductivity if you stack them (1+1). And 1.5+1mm ain't 4.5 :D
     
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    I know, but all i have is 1mm and 1.5mm. I guess I'd have to stack 4x1mm.
     
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    A bad idea. I would rather wait and get the proper pads. 2x2mm is bad enough. Stack 4 of them won't make it better.
     
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    You can order 3mm Gelid pads from Ebay. Good only make 0.5/1/1.5/2/3 mm pads.

    Don't stack 4x1mm. Go with either 2x2mm or 1+3mm.

    I'm using 2x2mm

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    well crap, i ordered 1mm and 1.5mm.

    Edit: I've ordered extra 2mm pads, wasn't available before. I guess I can keep the rest, they could come in handy.
     
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    So today my p775TM gave me a good scare. I was working on my laptop, then went to pick up my kid from school. I left it on. When I returned I saw the dreaded black screen with the 'no boot device detected' message. Tried to reboot, no effect. The SSD wasn't listed in the boot sequence - no hard disk present according to the Bios. Opened her up, removed the SSD and plugged it back in. No luck. Moved the SSD to another slot. No luck. Then in the Bios I changed the bios mode to non-UEFI. I got a different error message when booting, about 'cable disconnected'. Went back in the bios, changed back to UEFI and lo and behold, it recognised the SSD again! Works flawless again now. Crystaldisk doesn't report anything weird with the SSD. Very strange.
     
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    Probably payback for naming it "Quasimodo" :p
     
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    We'll it's powerful but it won't win any beauty prizes...
     
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    Powerful when it works well, not so much when it doesn't
     
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    There were already thermal pads placed by HIDevolution. I just replaced the 2mm pad and left 4mm fujipoly ones.
     
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    Check if updated firmware is available.
     
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    Still the same issues. Power limit gets tripped and I'm stuck at 66W on the CPU even though I have it set to 200W. Also the random shut downs are still happening.

    I'm slowly getting very annoyed with this laptop.
     
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    200w is a fair bit, have you checked your VRMs are ok?
     
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