*** Official Sager NP9175 / Clevo P775TM Owner's Lounge! ***

You probably get asked this a lot but will your mod be available any way for people that got there laptops that you're not partnered with?

I tried asking my supplier to contact you but they don' seem interestd in offering anything like the service Hid do.

 

I am trying to help user, who couldn't purchase from a partner and PM me, with custom personal mods like every other week or whenever time permits...depending on how these user handle their responsibility I may continue or stop doing that. Consider it a trial run at this point.
Either way new Mods are always made available to partner and their customers first.

 

That is great to know as I am very nervus of my 870 purchase with every post I read saying it will have problems without prema mod.

Thanks for all the work you do for the community.

 

Omg, its first time I am talking to prema himself!! Okay so prema please help me!! As stated above,I have bought a p775tm1 g with i5 8600k, gtx 1080 gsync, from avadirect.com and guess what I found they aren't a prema partner, so is their there ANY way I could make a donation or pay you to get your bios and vbios with regular updates, after the bios is ready?? BTW loved your work since old days using i7 4790k on clevo laptop(I donated 50$ twice in the old days when your bios were available to download for free!!)

 

Clevo have already revamped their P77x model with disconnect the unified heatsink. But this ain’t enough. All your other suggested steps is highly needed.

If you don’t go with Liquid metal and instead want try conventional paste due heatsink problems, try out Phobya NanoGrease Extreme. A better choice than Kryonaut or Gelid if you have a messy HS.

Edit. Pressure paper is some places difficult to obtain (at least for me) + damn expencive. You could use cheap very soft creamy thermal paste, thin soft toothpaste or do as me... Use a creamy medical gel (Basiron ) for your pressure testing. See also suggested thermal pads.

 

I am pretty sure they do everything based on a theory, then release it to the public and hope it turns out OK without proper testing. All of their competitors operate the same way. No Clevo laptop is worth owning without a @Prema BIOS. They are pretty all malfunctioning crap. No laptop that is not a Clevo is worth looking at, because they are disposable BGA filth.

 

Think I'm gonna stay with my p170sm, I've never had a problem with that for 5 years..........

 

If you're still satisfied with the product and it is doing what you want it to, then it would be pretty silly and pointless to spend money on something else. There's nothing wrong with the idea of riding that donkey until it dies and saving your money. Arguably, much smarter to do that. No point in buying anything if it is going to be crippled by cancerous firmware and/or insane thermal management issues, or disposable BGA filth. Those are serious flaws that define the difference between good and garbage.

 

Well I get my p870tm on the 23rd so I will give a week and decide if I keep it or not

 

It is a fair step in performance at least

 

It is that, maybe a step too far for me? Time will tell I guess.

 

5 years at the moment is a very sensible cycle for the patient for value per $ so let us know what you think.

 

Well im not easly put off, but I fear a lot of learning is coming my way.

I guess there is always a price to pay for performance.

How is the p775 with single 1080? Does that have temp issues too?

 

Hey im trying to cool my p775 as good as i can and your right, regarding the larger grill openings in bottom panel thinking i can maybe fix. It looks like a quarter of the fans are blocked. I read you have some experience with modding bottom panels. Can i drill holes into it or cut slits somehow, or will i completely crack the panel doing so? It feels like some flimsy plastic material

 

If you are careful, you can use a hole saw and electric drill to cut a neat and clean circular hole over each fan and glue a thin metal mesh grille to the back side. You can also use a fiberglass screen, similar to desktop case dust filter material. Most of the bottom covers on laptops are flimsy plastic, but if you take it slow and easy it won't get all busted up.

 

Just to give an update on mine, my PCH doesnt go above 60c (normally around 55c). But I did notice that there was an issue with it where it stops reporting sometimes (though when it is reporting, its doing so steadily and reporting those temps). Dont know what that is about. Could simply be faulty sensors. As for where it is at, I havent found it either, but I havent taken apart the top side of the laptop, so like Mr. Foxy says, its most likely there.

Now, as for your temps. I highly highly suggest an undervolt + OC. These are highly binned chips and are capable of running OCed at much lower voltage. I'm getting 1880mhz at 0.86v, and that keeps my temps down in the low to mid 80s (tested playing Destiny 2 maxed out at 3440x1440 getting 70-90fps). MSI AB has a really nice tool for creating your own voltage curve to keep it in check. Here is a pic of mine if it will help.

 

Ah so just cut one large hole for each fan. Cut from the inner side or exterior side?
Just wanna make sure dont end up cracking the whole panel. Also great idea about the fiberglass mesh. Thinking now create some easily removeable mesh grill for easy collect and clean of dust

Thanks!

 

In the P775 the 1080 can get pretty hot. That can be mitigated with an undervolt and OC though. Get around stock desktop 1080 performance at around 82c

 

Is 82c acceptable levels to get good life out of the components.

What are the good temp ranges you want your laptop running?

 

Yeah, 82c is fine. Thats what the desktop cards run with the FE coolers on them. I've been using gaming laptops for a while, and 82c is nothing. I had an 880m for 2 years... That thing got HOT. That said, I prefer to keep the temps in the 70s, but I wont sacrifice too much performance for it. This thing is right where I want it now. Just waiting on the delid kit for the CPU.

 

Cut from the back side. That way if the hole saw slips a little bit it will scratch the interior side that nobody can see. Use a piece of lumber like a 2x4 for backing while you drill. That will keep the pilot bit from moving around.

82°C is safe, but it is horrible for performance. At that temperature, the GPU Boost will be essentially non-functional. Anything at or above 50°C on Pascal GPUs starts to measurably hinder performance and it gets progressively worse as the GPU reaches totally normal operating temperatures. Why? Because that's how the NVIDIOTS designed it. They can advertise clock speeds that nobody operating an air cooled GPU under normal conditions ever sees. Isn't that special?

 

That is true, unless you're OCing/Undervolting. At that temp I can keep 1780mhz just fine, which is over rated boost speeds. You wont hit or hold 2GHz, but I think this is a fair trade off. I had a 1080ti that would hold 2GHz at 83c. There is some fluctuation, but it still wont 'throttle' much below what you set it to.

 

Get some water on that 1080 Ti and it will take on a new life. You'll be amazed how much stronger it runs and benches at 45-50°C max temperature versus 83°C. Like night and day difference. The difference it made with I added the EVGA hybrid cooler to my 1080 Ti SC2 was truly dramatic.

 

Oh I did. Modded that 1080 EVGA aio to fit it. Then flashed the ftw3 bios onto it. Good times. Though the aio did little in the way of improving my scores, it did however get rid of the jet engine sound. Was able to keep 2088mhz stable. With they would allow bios modding again. Had fun with my 980ti at 1545

 

Wow, just did a Timespy stress test and I gotta say having those bottom vents blocked is not a good idea. Was running 85c at 1747mhz locked for half the test, then raised the back of the laptop to increase the airflow and it dropped to 77-78c. If you're looking for the best temps, definitely raise the back of the laptop about half an inch to increase the airflow.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/23892678?

 

Take the bottom cover off and keep it elevated it to see if the temps and benchmark score improves even more. It does for me on the P750TM. It is sitting on a modded U3 cooler.

 

I have no doubt it would, but the internals end up resting against the surface of you don't have it wedged up (I tested this when I was swapping drives). Really loving this laptop so far. Hope they release bios updates soon to resolve the few qualms I have with it.

 

For quick and easy testing, you can elevate it with the bottom cover removed using a plastic soda pop bottle cap in the middle of the back edge (centered) right under the vicinity of where the AC power jack is located.

 

Hi all.I have a question.Now I am in China,want to buy p775tm Chinese reseller Hasee.If I buy this model, can I use/find prema bios from another reseller? May be I can buy prema bios from another reseller?
Thanks for answer! Sorry for my English,I am non native)

 

No. Patner Shops are not allowed to sell it. It is only for their products and selling it is a violation of their agreement. The only way you can get it is to buy from a @Prema partner shop or directly from Prema. His Partner Shops get the firmware first, as that is one of the value-added elements to their products.

Your English is good. Very clear and understandable.

 

We can provide you with the Prema BIOS, once released, and we ship to China. Feel free to email me at [email protected] for additional details.

 

A help here please URGENT!!! Any place where I can get clevo p775tm1 with gsync gtx 1080 STOCK bios and vbios??

 

Hehe...well, when you are 17, most things in life are URGENT!!! (Sorry, please forgive me...I just couldn't resist)

However it is a bit unclear what you are asking for. Are you looking for the laptop, or the BIOS and vBIOS for one?

If you are just looking for the BIOS and vBIOS contact your vendor where you bought the laptop.

 

Hello,
Yes I want the laptop's bios and vbios(gtx 1080 gsync),
I accidentally bricked my laptop
I BOUGHT IT FROM AVADIRECT.COM

And here is the reply they gave me
""Any failures that require warranty work requires you to send the system back to us. Legally through Clevo, we cannot provide those files, as they try to prevent against customers going to different bios's. Overclocking these systems will cause overheating.

Best Regards,

Kyle Mizer | Sales & Support
2045 Midway Drive, Twinsburg, OH 44087
Office: (866) 766-4629 | Direct: (216) 503-6362 | www.avadirect.com

GSA Contract Number: GS35F0159V | CAGE Code: 32CT5 | DUNS Number: 111374455 | ISO 9001 Certified""



I thought to buy the laptop from you(hidevolution) but frankly and TBH, your prices are wayyy to high,
I got the laptop with same specs with like 500 bucks lesser from avadirect.com(and my wallet said they are the ONE.)
PLEASE HELP MEEE!!!!


BTW I am 16. And have builded like 5 PCs(one for me and 4 for school) all with 1070s in sli, and know almost everything about laptops and PCs!!

 

And how did you manage to brick your laptop?

 

By knowing everything of course

 

Yeah, the new p775tm1 g's bios comes with options to undervolt the the CPU(and my battery was at 2%), so I opened the bios and went to undervolt, and as soon I pressed button to save , it switched of, now bios doest boot neither does os!!!

 

Can't you read the word ALMOST WRITTEN BEHIND IT??, anyways if possible please help me..

 

Just remove the coin cell, put it back and it will boot fine.

 

Or try the reset key combo.
BTW. ThrottleStop is a nice tool to test out how your chips handle undervolt

 

Dude. I am going to be 55 next month and still have to use the word ALMOST in that context. But, that's OK. The day we stop learning is the day we die.

I cannot stand to see anybody sad or freaking out. So, try this...

1. Connect AC adapter
2. With the laptop powered off, press and hold FN+D
3. While continuing to hold down FN+D, press the power button to turn it on
4. Continue holding FN+D for 30 seconds after the laptop power is on
5. Release FN+D and wait for at least 2 minutes
6. If the laptop reboots and gives you a blue box warning about the CMOS being cleared or the CMOS battery being dead, say three Hail Mary and hit enter each time.
7. Laptop should reboot and be back to BIOS defaults.

If that does not work, take off the large bottom cover. There are two screws for the keyboard. Both of the holes where those screws are should be marked with KB. Take the screws out. Use a small screwdriver (smaller than the screws removed) and with the lid open press up on the screw holes. This will lift up the keyboard. It has tabs that hold it, so do not get too rough. Get a finger under the keyboard and slide your finger left and/or right to release the tabs along the top edge closest to the screen, then slide the keyboard toward the screen to remove the tabs from the chassis close to the touchpad. Be mindful of the ribbon cables so you don't accidentally break them. Slide the keyboard toward the screen and you will see the coin cell (CMOS) battery. Disconnect it for about 10 or 20 seconds with no AC power and the large system battery removed. This will remove all power sources from the motherboard. After 10 to 20 seconds, reconnect the CMOS battery and connect AC power. Turn the laptop on. At this point, steps 6 and 7 above should occur. If it does and the machine starts working right, then you can do your happy dance.

What likely happened is you undervolted too much and there was not enough to power up the CPU. Do that in smaller steps and it probably will not happen again.

 

Just to be clear, if you bought it from AVADIRECT it could not possibly have had the same specs. No delidded, undervolted and overclocked CPU, no Prema BIOS, and no HIDevolution tech support and warranty service when you need it. Just think, if price was everything, no one would buy from HIDevolution. Our prices are fair for the product we deliver.

Just be thankful that @dspboys, @Papusan and @Mr. Fox were here to help you.

 

While we wait for the results from @OfficialTheDragon feel free to watch this to pass the time.

8700K gaming at 5.2GHz... beautiful temps.

 

Did that 5 times before posting here, nothing!!

 

Yeahh , I know you are the best, I am saying my budget was tight.. I already have bought a second hand evoc msi 16l13 and it was bes, but as you know sometimes you have to listen yo WALLET!!!

 

Okayyyyy, where is this button or combo located?? Do I have to to do it when laptop is switched off? Or while is bottling up??

 

See post #291 above from bro @Mr. Fox

 

Where have you been sir!! Yes I tried it and worked(pheww), also can you say me is 1.4v not enough for an i3 8100?? I thought it is so I undervolted it!!


BTW THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE HELP,

AND YES REGARDING THE ALMOST WORD, MY BROTHER SAID THE SAME THING REGARDING LEARNING(HE IS RATHER PROUD OF ME AS MY INTREST AND PASSION TOWARDS LAPTOPS ADN PCS)

 

No chips is equal. Test out how your chips handle undervolt without too much hassle...
How to Lower Temperatures, Stop Throttling, and Increase Battery Life: The ThrottleStop Guide (2017)

 

Okay, one thing more(as I intend to ask morE tech things from you guys),
If I run my laptop cool,
No over clocking , undervolted and not dropping it!! How much life span should I expect from it??