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    *** Official Sager NP9175 / Clevo P775TM Owner's Lounge! ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 6, 2017.

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    There is a price check part as well ;)
     
  2. RedMarl

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    Hi guys, can you identify what this is?
    So apparently I got bsod(quite sometime since the last one), it says "memory management" , restart itself then follow up by "process died" and so on...So I opened the laptop and reseated the rams, It always been slot 1+2(under the keyboard). So I tried these:

    1+3: the laptop just boot looping with black screen, the fn+d and cmos removal also didn't help.

    2+3: same as above.

    3+4(under the backcover) took some time for the blue box(bios reset) to show up, then bsod again after few minutes of usage.

    It only boot with 1+4, although it appears on cpuz as single channel.

    Mine is 2x8 corsair 2666, is this the corsair's thing or something is wrong with my laptop?
    I even lost my backlight keyboard for some reasons, dang it.
     
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    1 and 4 should be dual channel, could be a bad module.
     
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    RedMarl Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you. I was afraid if anything wrong with the ram slots

    Also do you know why is my keyboard's backlight don't work anymore?
    It always lights up when power on and then went blue after it got in login screen as usual, now after bios reset and several boot looping, it's just....gone.
     
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    Oh, man. I had the same problem. Install Obsidian Fan control, launch it, wait until it show window "critical service unavailable, resatart it?", app will start showing temperature. Reboot, launch it again, then you can install and use Obsidian KeyBoardLED. FanControl is no longer needed. This is way for people, who dont use CCC.
     
  6. RedMarl

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    I've been using Obsidian Led instead of ccc for a while. But since i got the ram problem, the LED won't light up anymore.

    Also I checked the bios(stock), it....changed some of the specs, like tRCD, tRAS....So I adjusted them to match the other one and cpuz still report as single channel. What the heck....
     
  7. FTW_260

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    @RedMarl, check each stick separately.
     
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    Thanks, I think the 3rd slot under the backcover is broken or something, or bios, or the module it self...
    I should stay...single for now, get new sticks and figure it out.

    Out of no where, just lost my LED and ram slots(?), damn....
     
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    Do the lights ever shine at startup? Have you checked the cable?
     
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    No, not at all. I did re-plug the cable once I notice the light was off. Maybe because I took the keyboard out so many times?

    Oh, after I switched back to default profile in the bios , it is now dual channel in slot 1+2, God knows for how long...
    I haven't tried memtest yet, but windows memory diagnostic din't report any errors, unlike yesterday, it said error and went to bsod after the test.

    Edit: Forgot to mention, my laptop usually bsod when windows 10 is update, major one. Not right after the update but shortly. First year of using, bsod only happened when I undervolt the cpu too much, later on it just bsod whenever it wants.
     
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    There was an update that got cached that could do that. Might want to uninstall any pending updates and do a straight upgrade with the tool.
     
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    Damn it Microsoft.....
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Even with those problems, still the best mainstream network hardware manufacturer :p
     
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    Plus they actually published fixed drivers. That's a plus.
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Windows updates? What are those?
    [​IMG]
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Would be weird if they didn’t :D
     
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    Most people just run the general build ;)
     
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    My guess would be no.
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Well, Microsoft gotta keep all those tech support employed somehow. :p
     
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    Trust me, plenty to do otherwise.
     
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    Hi guys, what could be my problem when memtest86 show errors when they in dual channel?...Like more than 10000 errors....This is on dimm 3+4

    But they both passed...individually.

    So I tried dimm 1+4, not only they operate at single but also reduce timing and clocks by 200Mhz by themselves in bios.
    Am I correct that the dimm 4 is the one on top under the backcover?
     
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    What do they do in 2 and 4?
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Dimm 1 + 4 layout is,

    2nd slot under the keyboard and 2nd slot under the cover. (the top slot under the cover)
     
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    Sorry, my bad, I used the wrong dimm slot.
    Huh, I thought dimm 1 was in the top because it's lable as "Ram 1".

    I just reseat to the actual dimm 1 and now they're dual again, but still reduced timing, it was "18-19-19-39", now its "17-18-18-36", tRCP from 467 to 420. Should I do something?

    And I think dimm 1+2, 3+4 still either bsod or won't boot.
     
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    Dual channel will work with,
    1+4
    2+3

    1+2
    3+4
    but yes go off the dimm label.

    The timings, were these with XMP or did machine set them after it trained? If you get errors, try clearing cmos, pressing power for 30s and let it retrain. Sometimes the prepopulated timings can cause issues.
     
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    Thank you.

    The memory profile were always in default since day 1, in the bios I can set timing with "custom profile" but nothing happens when I select XMP.
    I did clear cmos, but somehow they showed the "new" timings, I don't even know where they got that from. Should I put them in 3+4 or 1+2 and clear cmos again?

    Also I just read this.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ots-if-using-all-4-memory-slots.822769/page-6.
    Apparently he had something drop in the cpu socket, reminds me I did have a tiny bit of thermal paste on my socket pin too. Gonna have some sleep and clean it later, assumed that's hardly a problem but I still hope that'll fix it.

    Either that and the bios just f***ed the memory configuration, or I'm in a delusional coma from looking at BSOD...
     
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    Lower timings are better so if it runs happy that way leave it.
     
  31. jc_denton

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    Keep them in 1+4. remove both batteries and clear the cmos. Then rerun memory test to see whether the errors persist.
     
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    I thought so too, but they're back to default ......again, after cmos removal.


    Right, I'm doing that right now.

    Thank you guys, I really appreciate your help ;)
     
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    Running in 1+4 slot was the only "config" that managed to correctly run my CL16 3200Mhz memory.
     
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    What happen if you use other slot?
     
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    Some errors in memtest, but not consistently. Errors in 3D applications letting me believe I had a GPU problem.
     
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    Well that sucks, the other day my laptop show error "Nvdisplay.container..." after boot, then bsod and everything, but single channel is fine with those dimm(?!)
    What is wrong with dimm 3+4 tho?
     
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    I run 3200mhz sticks with XMP 1.35V and it worked in every config (P750DM2).
    Maybe CPU has some to deal, in my case is 8086K.
     
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    Probably, I have a 8700, so it might be memory controller.
     
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    It can just be the memory controller chip to chip even if it was the same kind, though it is true the 8086k is just binned better in general.
     
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    Is the 9900K binned similarly to the 8086K?
    I might get one :D
     
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    More the 9900KS
     
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    Or get a P0 :)
     
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    My main problem with the 9900 is that I'll probably need to delid it to properly run in my P751TM1 and risking a 600€ part it's frightening :p
    Even after deliding, it's quite possible that it will throttle massively.
     
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    I found man with RTX card and G-sync works with it! (+ B173HAN03.1) Bios version is identical with my, but never else can confirm that everything will work as expected...
    111.png
     
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    2080 should be a much better fit for the p775s thermal solution than the GTX1080.
     
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    Unless you use LM, which will tame the gtx1080 sufficiently (but not as good as the rtx2080).
     
  47. jc_denton

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    My 1080 ran quite hot even with LM and copper shim, unless undervolted.
     
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    Mhm, although I have the impression that what is considered as 'acceptable' temperature has been on the rise the past few years.
     
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    It was power modded at the end, so that might have had something to do with it :p
     
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    Anyone know where i can find an MXM RTX 2060 for cheap as im looking to upgrade my one
     
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