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Already fresh system, drivers etc( it was my first step)

 

Does sound like something in the firmware then.

 

So my brain doesnt want to leave me alone, and i am already thinking of some new upgrades .

So after the step to 2080 i am tinking at last to get a 4k screen. I know there is one with 60Hz but that i find to slow, there is also a more rare one with 120 Hz right? Is that compatible with the 775? I will lose gsync ?

 

You'll loose G-sync.

 

You can always get an external screen

 

Ha ha and ruin the fun of upgrading .

Yeah but i dont have the place for it, and i can always take the laptop and connect wit my 65 inch tv and play with the controllers

 

What's your current panel?

 

The 1080 144hz one

 

So it should be a 40 pin cable it's on then.

 

There is now custom rtx 30 series compatible heatsinks available in china for P775TM, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000174372901.html? , https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=579205291856&ft=t&toSite=main for example. I'v ordered the 20 series compatible one earlier and installed it, very impressive cooling.

 

Do i get it right, 30 series one is stated as backwards compatible with 10-20 series?
also they're so much cheaper on taobao?

 

Seems like compatible with those 2nd set of mounting holes around the gpu. Taobao is cheaper but much more difficult to buy from there if u are a foreigner. I'v been using a buying agent service to buy from there, they take a cut and extra postage fee. Adds up a little, rtx 20 series compatible heatsink cost me around 160 euro with taxes. Quality was excellent and mounted up nicely. A lot of work is the part trying to figure out the thermal pad locations and thicknesses since it's a custom cooler and Clevo factory thicknesses won't apply. Took me like 5 hours to get the pads correct on a 1070 card.

Would have picked up the 30 series compatible version, but it wasn't available when i ordered.

 

Is it better as the clevo stock one?

 

I think do, it looks like they have to points where you can screw it. For 10/20 and for 30x separate

 

I think you are better off with leaving the pads away and just use K5 Pro everywhere.

 

I have the same question, but for the P75xTM version

 

A lot more mass, so the cpu temp won't spike to 80's in a second when running a high load. It gives time for the fans to ramp up before going high temps. 9700k with -100mv 4.4ghz all core with all power limits removed is around 80c cpu temp in cinebench. Auto fans. At the moment ambient temp inside is around 28c. Gaming with the 1070 in performance mode the gpu temp is around 77c, a little less noisy because fans wont spin so fast.

It makes the laptop like 1kg more heavy, so not so good if it's being carried around. For me it's a DTR so no issue there.

I'd take this over the Clevo stock 20-series cooler anyway if contemplating the upgrade and buying a new heatsink

My version of the heatsink (10-20 series compatible) http://www.elisanet.fi/saltsi/pics/003.jpg

 

They also offer versions with milled in channel for liquid cooling.
me sad the thing is a bit on expensive side, i've got an 8086K for this price.

 

There is also the cost of small production runs.

 

After some thinking, I may need an advice again.
It's about Prema's mod on this p775 thing. Is there different version or set of settings for 8gen CPU's as opposed to 9gen?

I had temporarily reinstalled my original 9600k while 8086k gets its LM reapplied, and noticed that the system seems to behave not exactly how it should with 8gen processor. Some derpitude with voltage control, temp target offset not working, much more aggressive boost, other small things.

 

The BIOS has gone through revisions.

 

If you hot swapped the CPUs without clearing nvram, there might be settings that did not reset to correct values.

 

Thanks for reply good man. Thing self-solved though.. but funny thing.
I did reset everything first time and had issues.
Now i hot-swapped it and it works normally.
Magic?
Still won't take high undervolts though. -78mv and all-core 4.7ghz at 1.22v(VID) is maximum. Also stock cooler seem to hit it's limit at ~98W, at least temperature well reacts when I add another piece of metal to it, but doesn't react on pressure.

On another topic.. Any success in search for replacement keyboards on this thing? Clevo one is... So meh, it actually starts to fail already.

 

Not every chip will manage the lower voltages

 

I have question about connecting a display to the laptop. I am thinking of getting an ultra wide 34 inch Monitor, maybe the Gigabyte G34WQC-E. What port should i use? Over HDMI or mini DP? What DP has the P775? 1.2 1.4? Havent find any info on what type of DP is.

 

Ok so after digging around a little bit I found that they are DP 1.3, so i suppose i should use that to connect to that Gigabyte G34WQC-EK?

 

Usually the display port is best.

 

Yes, i read somewhere that dp 1.2 is almost the same with HDMI2 but in my case 1.3 is superior to hdmi so ive orderd one cable and also that Monitor, for the money it looks its one of the best 34 Inch ultra wide. Now im stocked to go back to big displays.

One thing offtopic, i really wanted to get a WHITE Monitor, wanted to make a clean white setup, keyboard and mouse, desk is also white so really white clean minimalistic setup and make the clevo also white with skins...but boy its crazy there is almost no white Gaming, ultra wide monitor!! Only black and rgb...sheesh...

Maybe il paint this one white some time in the future

 

Usually the casing on the monitors and the bezel is not the end of the world to get off so you can paint them decently.

 

Now i really got a problem.
A single key almost died on my keyboard, an it's "D". one of the most used. It won't register most of the time an spam rows of D's at once when it does.
Disassembled the thing down to the membranes, no sign of anything unusual there.
Hard to find a replacement and it's $100, insane price for such piece of junk. If i'm to replace it, i prefer anything but this.

Help please!

 

Could be corrosion inside the dome.

 

It looks no different from all the others though..

 

Have you had the dome off and cleaned it with alcohol?

 

ugh i should've made better photos.
There's nothing to clean with alcohol, all circuitry is sealed tight inside that plastic sheet, the cap is just piece of regular rubber that pokes on contacts inside the sheet.
Thing isn't meant to be disassembled.

 

Yeah, in that case you wont be able to get to it to do any repair.

 

I might find a solution.
My guess is it's natural wear due to active use. The cap has relatively small tip and doesn't affect whole surface of the contact pad, and probably that one spot where it hits got damaged over time. Some junk under the cap may spread pressure to undamaged parts.
I've put a piece of "thin something" (in this case a piece of carbon covered copper foil) under the cap and it works much better now.

Perhaps this may be useful to someone, someday.

 

Please advise me, how can i remove pl1 and pl2 for my processor by bios,
Which parameters i must set in pl1 and pl2 graphs

 

Just set them to higher than it will ever go. But why?

 

They are just the values in milliwatts so not hard to pop in higher values.

 

due to pl1 limit appear =) ( not throttling) and i hate this

 

i have last bios by dsanke /// and i tried to modify pl1 and pl2 but it didnt work

 

Did you try and raise them just a bit? Did you adjust the current limit too?

 

Stock value of 9600kf is pl1 95w pl2 175
Tried pl1 120..... dont work
Will try 100,110, thx but dunno
My i5 is very hungry and during render on stock 4300mhz eat above 102W by occt or throttle stop monitors

 

Undervolt it, my 9600k settled at about 85-90W @4700mhz (depends on load, can be 100+, but still - 4700mhz!)

to raise PL1 you need also to raise PL2 above that. Also, temps. Won't it overheat?

 

whaaaaat OMG
usually on stress test my processor reach close to 90 degree (88-90) on 4300mhz with -110mV and 101W( time to time 103~105)

 

4700mhz all time on boost ? or on idle other values ?

 

All core stable boost. But actually don't remember, might be -1 AVX offset and therefore 4600mhz.
Temp was close to 90c too.. And that's not good. I've asked here a lot about improving that cooling.
From experiments, about 100W is the maximum the cooler design itself is able to handle, it'll hang just under 90c in this case. Aim at that power and optimise other things, raising power draw will just cause thermal throttling.

One thing i've noticed now with 8086k - don't overclock the cache if you want these high core clocks, it adds way too much additional power draw and heat, and really isn't worth the performance boost it gives.
9600k couldn't handle cache overclock so i have no idea if it's still true in 9gen

 

In my P870 I've got my 9900KS running at around 4.6-4.7 AVX all core that is going to the thermal limit though.

 

I am coped with pl1 and pl2.
My actions was (dsanke last bios for p775tm1g) set all pl1 and pl2 lines to 4095875 and got limit (409.875watt)
About that dsanke said in other topic
1 year ago

 

So is it working for you now?