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    **Official Sager NP9270 / Clevo P270WM Owners Lounge**

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Aikimox, Jan 25, 2012.

  1. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    680M...not for a while.. :)

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  2. DGDXGDG

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    this old chart just come up in mind, quite accurate(vantage p no physx)
    n13e gs1=675m=580m....p16000............p15514(nbc)
    n13e gs1 lp=670m=570m.....p13000............p12828(nbc)
    and gt650m also accurate
    [​IMG]
    come on gtx680m!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  3. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    ^^ Yeah, sure...in September, hehe :)
     
  4. DGDXGDG

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    maybe
    680m=28nm fermi
    685m=kepler
    we can always have a dream :)
     
  5. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Or just grab a 7970M or later on 7990M and have the best (+- 5%) performance for lowest price. That's what I'm gonna do, most likely... unless :rolleyes: Dreams....
     
  6. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    You do know that NVIDIA lowered the price on the latest mobile GPU's.

    For example you can get Dual Nvidia GeForce GTX 675M GPU's in SLI + Additional AC Adapter & Power Converter Box for only $450.00 more than a single 675M.

    That is almost half the price the 580M sold for just a couple of weeks ago! ;)

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  7. altleet

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    Now, that's very interesting! Thanks for the info, M8! Looks we might finally be able to choose what we want without thinking about the price difference, since there will be none. :)
     
  10. ole!!!

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    pretty disapointed theres no improvement from 580m to 675m =/ unlike 7970m is definitly better than 6990m

    still waiting for a mobile graphics card to come out with 384 bit buswidth though.
     
  11. TigerWolfe

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    Myth, y'all gonna add the 600 series cards to the configurator? What would be the price difference if I were to switch if they are available?

    Anyone, 660 is keplar... 670/75 are fermi (but better, right?) So which card/s are better to go with? What's the advantage of this keplar thing?
     
  12. physib

    physib Notebook Evangelist

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    Better efficiency. As for 675m, I'd rather wait until some better drivers are out then see the difference. Either way, I was hoping it would be at least 10%-15% better than 580m, so this is a let down.
    I'm still waiting for 680m.
     
  13. ettornio

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    670 and 675 are exact duplicates of the GTX 570m and GTX 580m. Don't fall for the marketing!

    Advantages of Keplar is really just major power savings/efficiency. Another thing is that while Fermi was powerful, its strong point was CUDA and less so gaming. Whereas the G92 (GTX 280M and downward) were less effective at CUDA, but stronger in gaming. Keplar is a marriage between the two (gaming+CUDA).
     
  14. mythlogic

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    They will be up shortly :p But they are just rebadges, so nothing to be too concerned about ;)
     
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    [​IMG]


    GTX 675M is underclocked 580M?
     
  16. mythlogic

    mythlogic Company Representative

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    Nope its a typo in their spec.. Look at the clock difference, its exactly 50% someone just typed it in wrong. Its literally the same thing.
     
  17. jaug1337

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    Whats the freakin point of rebranding... at least make it slightly faster or so, come on nVidia cheap shot right there. Oh well, 580M come please :D
     
  18. TigerWolfe

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    Rebrand, make cheaper, look awesome to the unknowing masses?
    Maybe?
     
  19. Aikimox

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    Correction, the 675M is not the top tier card and the price is very similar to that of the 570M. I'm pretty sure it's gonna be the same story all over again, - when the 680M is out it's gonna cost in the 750-800$ range.
     
  20. ettornio

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    Yes. 10char
     
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    Not that I'm really too put out, I just got my GPUs upgraded due to this release
     
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    physib Notebook Evangelist

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    @babyhemi: just looked at your site, seems you guys took away the ability to only get one hard drive? Was that a mistake?
     
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    So.... I received an email yesterday from the guys I made my P270WM purchase through here in Oz, stating they received an updated ETA from Clevo that stock is due here in 2 weeks....
    Anyone in the know care to confirm the 2 week release? :D
     
  24. mythlogic

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    Yea we got the cards up, sorry about the delay... We also added a few more toys up there too. Yea we're crazy, but we're ok with it :err: :smile:
     
  25. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    A brand NEW site will be up very soon, sorry for any confusion with the old site.

    By all means you can get only one hard drive or even NO hard drive. Just email or PM for more info. :)

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    mythlogic the price for gtx670M sli is really sweet)

    2133MHz DDR3 Ram listed in 3820/3930K/3960X fields, are we expecting such modules any time soon? ;)
     
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    great stuff to see 2133 memory finally out, been waiting for a year now lol. i hope 2133 mhz is at quad channel =/. also heres something interesting to see of 7970 vs 680, single, dual, tri and quad cfx/sli

    http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/264...quad-sli-review-english-version-battlefield-3

    pretty amazing how 6970 got destroyed by 580 but 7970 stood up or better yet possibly beats 680 in dual graphics configuration.

    hopefully we get some real good results from the mobile world as well.


    heres also another cool thing, 675m has exact almost same spec as 580m, but its about $350 cheaper to get dual graphics.. lul
     
  28. Aikimox

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    Even the 7870 beats the 580 in some cases. 7990(Mobile)=? 580(desktop) :eek:
     
  29. ole!!!

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    what i meant was, those bench and tests were for desktop gpus, hopefully 7970m would do as well as 7970
     
  30. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    While we are off topic when will we see the 680m but it looks like it is not Keplar :(
     
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    Might be. There is no spec of 680m yet, and it looks like Nvidia is going to sell the rebranded 580m for a while until that.
     
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    hey mythlogic do you there tested xeon e5 on p270? or just "think" it will work good?
    clevo engineer said p270 isnt design for sever cpu thus their rd never test xeon on it, no bios verification and optimization

    btw you should remove "fx" on the mobile quadro......
     
  33. mythlogic

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    It worked on the original sample that we had. But that was before the delay and then reissue of everything. But yes, there wasn't any BIOS optimization for it, but for the most part it didn't do anything that hurt performance of the E5 chips.
     
  34. ole!!!

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    rebranded? means they would drop the price for it?
     
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    really, so how about reason theres no 2687w and 2690 in configuration?
    power not enough? cooling cant hold overheat?
     
  36. mythlogic

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    The amount of heat that those put out (Especially the 2687w) yea not worth it. Remember we have to warranty what we sell =) If you want to stick those procs in there and try and keep them cool, by all means hehe
     
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    Hey guys, sorry if this seems a little off topic but I have been lurking around the forums reading up on the p270wm and was wondering if there are any notebook retailers that can shed light on "moth eye" screens as opposed to regular matte anti-glare sometime in the near future. Or is this technology a few years off? Thanks! :D
     
  38. varunreeves

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    Hi everyone again and the possibility of the xeon processor capability of the chassis caught my attention, specifically, when I read that the TDP range for the xeon processors are 115W and onwards. So the question is, does this mean that if I choose a xeon proc I might be able to overclock it coz of its lower TDP? I am gettting the idea that if I fit in a sli 675 and the xeon and oc both of them I might be able oc both of them while still not damaging the system. Does this idea sound plausible??
     
  39. jaug1337

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    As stated above my mythlogic the amount of heat that is put out isn't worth it, especially if you want to overclock the whole thing, I wouldn't imagine what you would do to cool it down.. unless you've got some design-mods in thinking that might be modified towards making the chassis a better cooling machine :)
     
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    But he specifies the "not worth it" specifically for two Xeon procs and they each have I believe 150W ( or more) and that is way even above the sandy E which is at 130. I was trying to talk about the ones which have 115W ( eg E5-2670/2665 ) or perhaps the E5-2660 with 95W TDP and overclock these. OC ng these wont be the same as ocing the 130W sandyE or things higher than that. right?
     
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    I would imagine that overclocking a E5-2660 is possible. I haven't tried putting a Xeon in such a big machine before so it's hard for me to conclude anything, but sure it possible :)
     
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    One little issue, Xeon's are completely locked, you can't OC any of them. =)
     
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    Good question; any idea when we might see such things, mythlogic?

    In particular, 1866MHz memory is listed as "quad-core processor only", so I'm wondering what our best option is for the hex-core i7-3960X.
     
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    Kingston announced some 2133Mhz SODIMMS @ CeBIT, but we'll have to see when they hit the market. Also The memory says quad core+ (Notice the +) so hex's etc are good.
     
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    mythlogic

    GTX680 ( desktop, look under *) doesn't support PCI-E 3.0 speeds on X79 platform it might not on laptops as well... I mean not like there's a need of MXM 3.1 standart to be implemented ASAP, just sharing info)
     
  46. mythlogic

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    Yea I think there is a typo on that"

    The Intel X79/SNB-E PCI Express 2.0 platform

    I think should read

    The Intel X79/SNB-E PCI Express 3.0 platform

    As it goes on to say only supported up to 5GT/Sec (2.0) speeds, and so the first part would be redundant.

    But either way, its all backwards compatible, and the ES GTX680's were pcie 3.0 enabled, its just a driver thing really at this point. They can flip it on whenever they want (On the desktop side).

    The mobile side, we'll have to wait until next year (probably) to see the MXM 3.1 standard implemented. But they'll still work great at pcie 2.0 speeds with no slowdowns.
     
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    so.. anyone know when 7970m and 7990m will come out?

    i know that 2133mhz memory should be out by mid or late April, and vertex 4 would be out late april too =D
    now im just waiting for IRST driver to support trim in raid 0 before i purchase two of the vertex4, or samsung 830, or v3maxiops
     
  48. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    As far as Clevo getting the NEW AMD cards ready for the new line of models, there is no ETA yet.

    Until there is MASS production of the 2133MHz memory you will not see them in Sager's lineup.

    One way to easily check is to go to place like NEWEGG and see when they are selling them in quantities, then you know the time is very soon for Sager.

    In other words, it may take several weeks after the release date for the 2133MHz before real quantities are available. :)

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    They are very hard to overclock indeed, but not impossible. I do not know anything about the newest versions therefore I only speak on my behalf regarding the older ones which required a lot of cooling to overclock (water cooling) but it was possible.
     
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    I am new here. But not new to computers and overclocking.
    The Xeon chips on the x79/2011 boards do not overclock.

    Unlike the x58 which chips with locked multipliers could still be OC'ed with the BCLK these new chips and new boards do not do that. Trying to raise the BCLK in general causes instability.

    I looked into this when piecing together my desktop system and being that these are desktop components it will work the same.


    On another note is anyone other thatn Origin offering the 3d screen option at this point? I want that 120hz 3d screen!!!!
     
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