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    **Official Sager NP9270 / Clevo P270WM Owners Lounge**

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Aikimox, Jan 25, 2012.

  1. Anthony@MALIBAL

    Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative

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    It's also worth noting for Maltar that ES parts are generally unsupported and as-is. If you happened to have one and it burned out (and your warranty was up), the manufacturer would not help you out with RMA's. They're basically no-warranty parts and are for testing, not technically for sale. For example, here is what Intel has to say about ES CPU's:

    Processors — Information about Intel Engineering/Qualification Sample Processors
     
  2. Moltar

    Moltar Newbie

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    Hmmm. I'm located in Canada so it would have been easier for me shipping wise. Has anyone had a good experience with Eurocom? I realize it's natural to read about more bad experiences than good ones on the Interwebs, just curious to the other side of the fence. There doesn't seem to be a great search function (none that I can find anyways) on these forums.

    I'll keep that in mind though if I decide to go with them. Thanks for the tip.

    *Edited for spelling*
     
  3. omnivor

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  4. jaug1337

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    Wouldn't recommend Eurocom by any means!

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/reseller-feedback-forum/428769-fair-legal-business-practices.html

    The only thing worth mentioning.
     
  5. Tirenz

    Tirenz Notebook Evangelist

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    I usually don´t dig out old stories, but if I can avoid one unsatisfied customer:
    Stay away from Eurocom. Last year they sold me (over HAWKFORCE from Germany who deals with them and imports their laptops) a X7200 with 6970m crossfire graphic cards... a month or so before they were out, I was assured that they were NOT ES, but of course: They were. I even contacted AMD who said "that looks like units that were sent as demo to them".
    Besides that, my laptop didn´t start on battery, finally Hawkforce had to send it to GOLDENSTAR (Clevo Germany) and a new mainboard was built in. I got real 6970m cards, but they never worked well in the X7200, so I bought GTX 485m SLI which run fine till today and work fantastic.
    Maybe I´ll get the successor of the P270WM, but I´ll let out the P270WM. Very satisfied with my X7200 till´now :).
     
  6. acr731

    acr731 Notebook Geek

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    Who (which company) are you throwing under the bus?
     
  7. E.Blar

    E.Blar Notebook Deity

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    These are plug-and-play, though. You won't have to worry about getting sticks that don't overclock well or bios with no memory overclocking support or some other garbage...

    Supercomputer, eh?

    Might these people who don't do their research be the same kind of people who buy directly from sager and then wonder why customer support for these machines isn't as great as people here say?

    Eurocom. You know, the ones who love ES parts.
     
  8. acr731

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    Ok, thanks. Being in the US, I wouldn't have even looked at them in the first place. Glad to know at least one bullet was dodged.
     
  9. altleet

    altleet Notebook Consultant

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    Maybe you are right about not researching enough, but from my experience I couldn't come to an agreement with xotic pc so I decided to look for other re-seller / retailers Origin and several others but none could help me except for Eurocom..

    So here is what I will do, Once this laptop arrives Ill do a full review With extensive research on my laptops parts to make sure I did not receive any ES parts and post my good and the bad experience with it recorded as well as written. And give you guys an insight to it.

    Stay tuned to that day.
     
  10. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Sounds like a plan. Keep us posted and good luck with your purchase. :)
     
  11. altleet

    altleet Notebook Consultant

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    Sure will do, but check out what the sales person of eurocom replied, when I mentioned ES parts..


    "We are not shipping ES parts unless customer requests this - as ES parts in most cases are unlocked and have better specs. Your order will have only MP (Mass Production) parts.
    We had case in the past that customer requested ES parts, so we shipped but then he turned againts us for no reason. Since we are not active on forums - so we don't fight and defend ourselves."



    So this means there were exceptional cases. Even though its not a working day these people have responded to my every email. (Over 2 emails per day) I am gonna say that I am pretty satisfied so far. But I have yet to find out more.
     
  12. acr731

    acr731 Notebook Geek

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    Their reputation is being questioned and they aren't willing to "fight and defend ouselves"?

    If someone is wrongly trashing me or my company you can bet I'll be going for the jugular. To not do so is as good as an admission of guilt.
     
  13. altleet

    altleet Notebook Consultant

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    Well, If they can manage to make me happy, then dont have to defend them self :) Ill defend them them with my super computer! muhahah :D
     
  14. Geekz

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    for a small company though, gonna be hard to keep track of all the different forums in the interwebz, aside from eurocom not being a u.s. reseller.

    even sager/clevo does not try to defend their sides when questioned and leaves it to the resellers to do so.
     
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    I am currently in need of a powerful gaming laptop as my modded alienware m15x laptop doesnt work with my external 2560x1440 monitor. I am starting to fall in love with this system because of it's powerful design which looks as though it would be extremely easy to upgrade in the future. This would help make this a longer term solution for me. What I am wondering is it, one, can it support 2560x1440res monitors with its ports? Also does it make sense for me to upgrade to dual 675m's or should I wait for nvidia to come out with their true 28nm cards. I am also wondering it it would make more sense to wait on upgrading the cpu until ivy-bridge E comes out with their 8-10 core desktop lga 2011 cpus. Or should I just spend $2700 on the dual 675m's and the i7 3930k.

    Thanks
     
  16. ole!!!

    ole!!! Notebook Prophet

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    using external monitor when getting a laptop like this, might as well go for alienware m18x for bigger screen lol. then again thats just me =/

    btw i just went and check up on eurocom site, man arent they expensive and a rip off, or maybe they just havent even update their configuration thing yet. compare eurocom to reflexnotebook, reflexnotebok is much better lol
     
  17. altleet

    altleet Notebook Consultant

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    I will admit that it is pricey on the website, I had to personally talk to them for a deal which costed me about as Xotic Pc would sell for, or maybe slightly cheaper. Which not a lot of people would do. As for their configuration they had 675M's a while ago in their list but they removed it, I am not sure why..
     
  18. altleet

    altleet Notebook Consultant

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    I would say wait until Keplers, But thats just me. the GtX 675M support Maximum Digital Resolution of 2560x1600 and Maximum VGA resolution of 2048x1536. But you know why I suggested the Kepler wait? Its because they are expected to have lower TDP of around 75 - 78Watts, That means you may not need 2 power bricks like we do ^^, but thats just my own theory.
     
  19. spidert622

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    ... I need two power bricks... not that I care I use my system as a desktop.

    I personally I am using an M15x, and the seizure inducing lightshow is starting to get old, definitely going with something more professional this time.
     
  20. altleet

    altleet Notebook Consultant

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    I travel much so its a bit of a problem for me having 2 big power blocks with me all the time.. I plan to fuse them together once I get my order.
     
  21. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    When traveling and doing moderate things, and not extreme gaming and such, only one PSU is needed to bring along with you.

    Of course I know with this much power 'under the hood' you may be tempted... :)

    _
     
  22. ole!!!

    ole!!! Notebook Prophet

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    lol probably getting rid of w/e they had in stock left, or just want to make more money from the old 580s
     
  23. altleet

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    I plan to work with some Chinese Power supply unit makers and get a 450W PSU built for this machine. I Already emailed some about it, they are waiting for exact specs I need. I am not sure how that will go but we will find that out.

    And if that goes well.. I can order a decent amount for people who are interested, instead of having to carry two Psu.
     
  24. DGDXGDG

    DGDXGDG Notebook Deity

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    :eek: :eek: :eek:
    great, im in :D
     
  25. altleet

    altleet Notebook Consultant

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    That's great to know. I need to measure the demand for it. Any ideas?
     
  26. spidert622

    spidert622 Notebook Consultant

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    Sounds good to me how much will they priced at and are you sure that they will even work?
     
  27. altleet

    altleet Notebook Consultant

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    Its not clear yet after My clevo arrives I am going to examine one of the PSU's and the talk with chinese manufacturers to see what can be done. If it wouldnt work I wouldnt tell that I succeeded in it. I plan to get it produced the same grade quality as the current psu if not better. If its going to work or not, We will have to try and find out. We wont know until we try it so.
     
  28. altleet

    altleet Notebook Consultant

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    Jesus Look at this

    World's first Quad-GPU workstation class professional super-notebook powered by the fastest desktop 8-core Intel i7 processors and NVIDIA with FOUR GeForce GTX 675M, 670M or GTX 660M, NVIDIA Quadro 5010M, 4000M, 3000M running in DUAL-SLI (SLI-D) configuration; or by FOUR AMD Radeon HD7000 in DUAL-CrossfireX (CF-D).

    Display:
    17.3-inch 4K 3840by-2160 pixels; IPS with 100% NTSC / Gamut; Matte WLED Display


    Base Spec:
    Core Logic: Intel X79 Express Chipset
    Processor: Intel Core i7; LGA2011; 8-cores/16-treads; 20MB L3 cache
    VGA TECHNOLOGY: Quad GPU support with 4 VGA modules; Modular MXM 3.0b; NVIDIA: GTX 580M, GTX 560M, GTX 675M (Fermi), GTX 670M (Fermi), GTX 660M (Kepler); QUADRO 5010M, 4000M, 3000M; AMD: HD6990M, HD6970M; supports both SLI-D and CF-D
    MEMORY: up to 96GB; DDR3-1600/1866; six physical memory sockets
    EXPANSION: Built-in ExpressCard 34/54 slot and 1x internal PCI-E slot
    STORAGE: up to 6TB of storage with six physical SSD, Hybrid or HDD, RAID 0/1/5/10/30 support; SAS
    OPTICAL DRIVE BAY: DVD-RW or Blu Ray Burner or 6th Hard Drive
    I/O PORTS: 3x USB 3.0; 2x USB 2.0; eSATA; Firewire-800 (TI XIO2221ZAY); DisplayPort v1.2; DVI-I (SL); HDMI 1.4a out w/HDCP; Headphone; Microphone; S/PDIF out; Line-in; RJ-45 / LAN
    COMMUNICATION: built-in 2x 10Gigabit Ethernet LAN; WLAN; Bluetooth v2.1+EDR; 2M FHM 30fps Video Webcam (built-in)
    SECURITY: TPM 1.2; Fingerprint, Kensington Lock, integrated GPS tracking
    KEYBOARD: Illuminated full-size with separate numeric keypad; W/A/S/D gaming key; built-in touchpad with multi-gesture and scrolling functions; 6 touch sensor instant buttons: Volume Up/Down, Mute, WLAN, BT, Webcam
    WEIGHT/DIMENSIONS: 6.5kg (14.3lbs); 419(W)x286(D)x77.5-72.5(H)mm (16.76x11.44x3.1-2.9inch)

    Next in the line on its way!!

    Ofc thats a year from now ^^
     
  29. TigerWolfe

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    I'd be interested as well pending price, etc..
     
  30. DGDXGDG

    DGDXGDG Notebook Deity

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    i know your kidding right? :)
    mod these :D
    Processor: up to dual Intel xeon; LGA1567; max 32-cores/64-treads; 40MB L3 cache
    three 1920*1200 screen slide to open side-by-side, supports 120hz 3d vision surround
    two msata slots with raid 0 support
    all key is customizable oled(like optimus maximus keyboard)
    stock water cooling, as well as phase change cooling
    antimatter battery :eek: :eek: :eek:
    ___________________________________________________________

    i think it is not so hard, see w701/m6600's 200+w slim psu?
    just make a chassis put them in parallel then will get 400+w with same bulk as clevo 300w
     
  31. spidert622

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    I am still not sure about pulling the trigger on one of these laptops when the "675m" is just a marketing gimmick. Everything else I am positive about.

    Disappointing that a company like nvidia would be so untrustworthy as to just rename the 580m, and pretend it's kepler.
     
  32. spidert622

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    ^^^^^^ Holy Crap You Wern't Kidding!
     
  33. acr731

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    Do you have a link to this??
     
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    You do realize, the shipping date is April 1st.
     
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    acr731 Notebook Geek

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    How much is it?

    Insane price is probably from the 4k display.
     
  38. mythlogic

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    We will be shipping them also starting today..

    Yea... thats it.. Yea yea! :biggrin: :mask: :yes:

    Come and get your quad GPU goodness
     
  39. jclausius

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    Hang on. Hang on. Is this the P270WM or a different model?

    4 MxM ports
    6 RAM sockets
    6 drive bays

    Holy Moley! Where did they find room to put everything?
     
  40. altleet

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    Whats your point you mean we got April fooled? ^^
     
  41. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Can I order one with a 64core CPU grid? I hear they make one but only available once a year on the 1st of April, lol
     
  42. jclausius

    jclausius Notebook Virtuoso

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    Oh... Man. That's just low!
     
  43. altleet

    altleet Notebook Consultant

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    Haha ^^.. Well if its real then It would one hell of a expensive Toaster! And melt your balls! :D :D :D
     
  44. DGDXGDG

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    next gen of this maybe :D
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  45. altleet

    altleet Notebook Consultant

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    Not a single private message yet for PSU poll ^^
     
  46. Patrck_744

    Patrck_744 Burgers!

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    April fools... right?
     
  47. acr731

    acr731 Notebook Geek

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    Its looking that way...
     
  48. altleet

    altleet Notebook Consultant

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    Nope its April 2nd today, and it wasn't meant to be April fools.
     
  49. spidert622

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    I am going to email eurocom and see if this is an april fools joke or not. Also if it isn't I want to see if they would be willing to sell 4k displays on the np9270.
     
  50. Patrck_744

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    Well I'm interested on getting one but I need to see the final product first. I don't want to burn my money.
     
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