**Official Sager NP9270 / Clevo P270WM Owners Lounge**

HDD 0 and HDD 1 will be SATA III, everything else is SATA II - http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...cussion-information-thread-3.html#post8104310

On the x7200, the light is ON when wifi is enabled, and OFF when wifi is disabled. It does not blink to show activity. Now, I don't know if the p270WM will be different (or why it would be different), but at the very least, it is hard to believe this isn't something that couldn't be controlled by the driver.

 

but it does blink in the video..

 

yes - but this video was made in the "early days" i suppose - this has been fixed [at least my x7200 doesn't blink] (driver issue)

so i don't think it won't "blink" anymore when the p270wm arrives - 99% sure

 

Yes, it does blink. But, I would think it was something mis-configured w/ the system or with a setting in the driver. Once these start getting into people's hands, I'm sure someone will post to let the rest of us know.

 

Thanks JC, a single sata3 didn't make sense, I read that in the specs on one of the Australian reseller sites, may have even been Clevo's Metabox site.

 

I bought the np9270 with the i7 3820, I want to know if I can do for overclocking bios?

 

There is no BIOS overclocking. It is all software based inside Windows.

 

No Bios overclocking sad sad

 

I believe that overclocking has been talked about a decent bit in this thread itself and the general recommendation is not to do it unless you are a professional overclocker. I believe that some people equipped with the knowhow and patience will attempt it later and after they give a feedback about the stability and other factors it might be advisable to think even.!

Also please someone correct me if I am wrong but i7 3820 is not an overclocking unlocked cpu. It means that you cannot overclock this cpu. You will need the next higher ones ie i7-3930K or i7-3960X as they can be overclocked.But again please read the advice before attempting anything coz this can easy render a 3k dollar laptop a paperweight.!

 

Quoting from googling this

The chip is partially unlocked, so you can do some overclocking on the cpu multiplier.
The overclocking looks likely to be you up the base clock to 125mhz(boosting it 25%), then you can change the multiplier to 4 bins higher than the stock multiplier if your chip can reach that speed.

So you can overclock it somewhat.

http://cdn.overclock.net/4/40/402c2c85_jkddft.jpeg

But once again laptops don't have the cooling anywhere close to what a desktop has, so if you're looking to heavily overclock then you may want to think otherwise, or mod the living hell out of the computer.

Like everyone else says. If you're going to overclock it, pay for it and see if they'll warranty it. An extra 35-75$ is worth saving something you're spending 2k+ on.

 

This would be the exact reason why I don't overclock anything; won't even attempt it.

 

Well, risks aren't for everyone it seems. There are alpha males and then there are beta...

 

I instead plan to Under volt it, if possible just to play safe and cool Its got plenty of power anyway.

 

Eh, its like everything else; with experience comes proficiency. I have no experience overclocking so its a risk I would rather avoid.

I have an extensive IT background and I'm sure I could easily figure it out, its just something I never found necessary to learn. If I were to try I would rather get experience on an older machine that I didn't care too much about.

 

I can understand that point of view. However, those buying a K/X unlocked CPU and not using the potential, are wasting their money, IMHO. Those chips are meant to be pushed and can go up to 5ghz+ stable if the cooling is adequate. Clevo could simply add a BIOS option to set the multipliers to at least 40-45 and restrict voltages, there's no risk of killing the system unless the cooling is insufficient (which is probably the case ).

Undervolt and slight overclock, that would be awesome

 

@Aikimox ( and everyone else who would be interested in answering) a question related to this again.The i7-3820 as pointed out on last page is a partially unlocked cpu. Is this information resoundingly correct? ( I am not doubting anyone but just asking again.) If this is so then does this not become the advisable CPU to buy as compared to i7-3930K for our LAPtop?. What I was thinking was to perhaps get a i7-3930K and then if later IB comes along I can get IB E and put it in this laptop and take this processor out and put it in the desktop I will buy later. In this scenario , I believe,buying the i7-3930K makes sense. But what about the scene if I am planning only for this laptop( and no future desktop later)? Also what about a second scenario with desktop later and my laptop has i7-3820( so I transfer it to desktop and get the mentioned partial over clocking of 4.3 ghz) . What would be advisable in each of these scenarios.?

 

The 3820 has a multipliers cap at 43 but you can take it up to 4.7-4.8ghz by bumping the bus speed. the question is, will there be an unlocked BIOS (probably not) and whether the cooling will hold at those clocks.

As for your scenarios, anything is possible. You can build a desktop later on and drop the 3820/3930k in there and get a Ivy-E CPU for the lappy. One thing is for sure, you won't be bottlenecked by the CPU in the next few years.

 

My info it seems was incomplete coz I thought only the K/X named CPUs are partially/fully overclockable. Also what I intended to ask was what is the advisable course of action to take for each of the scenarios considering ,obviously, price to performance limited to the 2 processors and also considering their usage later as described in the scenarios.

 

Highly interested in this model. I think I'd like to get it from Malibal. Any reasons for/against them?

Basically looking to replace my desktop PC entirely. My job has me going on the road for sometimes 1-2 weeks at a time and I need something to game with and funnel all my tv/movies through. I'm a big fan of buying high quality and having it last rather than go for affordability and need to replace it soon.

I'm quite wet for this laptop

 

Honestly, your question makes no sense to me. It's about your personal preferences. If you really need/want a desktop+ a desktop-power laptop - well,...it's up to you. You can swap CPU's or just sell the Sandy_E from the P270WM, or collect them if you wish.

But if you want my personal opinion, I'd never get a desktop, just grab the lappy and upgrade it down the road. You can always just sell the CPU/GPU/etc to recover most of the damage and move on. There's no second scenario in my book.

 

according to notebook check and their list of GPU class, it shows 7970m is gonna be released on the 1st of may, and 680m i1st of june.

 

I am hoping to get an email from frank@sager later this week telling me that my np9270 is in the mail....

Couple of questions:

1) Should I expect to need a chiller pad for this machine (no overclocking) and if so, where are the air intakes and outlets?

2) What software package would be good for monitoring temps? I tried Aida64 on my current lappy(little Asus bamboo) and it seems to cause lots of lockups. While I want to be able to monitor my system, stability issues would be a problem.

Thanks!
Bill

 

1) Check out the photos here...

custom gaming laptops - Welcome to Sager Notebooks

You will see all the fans are blowing heat out the bottom, which is why I was told some sort of cooling pad was a good idea.

2) I've used a program called "speedfan" for temps that can be found here: SpeedFan - Access temperature sensor in your computer
Have no idea if its the best or if it would be recommended. I saw a vendor using it and tried it out.

 

1) There are a number of vents on the bottom, so you only need a pad if you plan to use the machine away from the desk, etc. The actual cooling part probably isn't necessary unless you have really high ambient temps.

2) HwMonitor is highly recommended around here for ease of use and simplicity. You can use whatever you prefer though.

CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting

 

Assuming the chassis behaves exactly like the 7200, the fans on the bottom draw air INTO the machine, and the hot air is EXHAUSTED out the back.

I don't believe this has changed in the P270WM.

 

Yup the airflow pattern is the exact same.

 

You need a cooler with a solid base and fans not a cooler pad that can be sucked up and block the cooling, cooler pads only work when in contact with whatever they are cooling, depending on what you mean, I'd say no to a cooling pad.

 

Curious what is the difference between a "cooler with a solid base and fans" vs. a "cooler pad that can be sucked up and block cooling"? For example, does some have some links or pictures of the different cooling systems?

I appologize for the noob questioning here, but I am considering purchasing some type of cooling device for my new NP9270 laptop and would appreciate any help I can get.

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For people owing the earlier X7200 did it have the color gamut screen option. I would like to know the difference between the plain led and the 95% color gamut. Also can someone enlighten me about why we have 72% for the matte finish screen and why not 95%. Is there going to be a 95% or is it technically impossible.?I was looking at xoticpc and their choices that are available.

 

Id also like to know what kind of Back Packs and coolers are would be recommended for P270WM, Cheers. Anyone?

 

I have this backpack at the moment... Targus 17" XL Laptop Backpack Notebook carrying backpack

I hope its roomy enough for the P270. Won't know till I get it, though.

 

Do the builders/resellers have them yet? Waiting is murdering me.

 

I know there was previous mention of builders having the laptop with the 580m video cards, but I am also curious if builders/resellers have the versions with GTX 675m's yet?

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I, too, was considering the 95% gamut. My D901C's screen is glossy, and after 4 years of usage, still looks awesome (digital vibrance required but we 9262 owners know this).

I'm not sure, though. My Lenovo x120e has a matte screen, and the colors just don't seem to jump off the screen for me. However, the whole 'no reflection' factor is a major plus. I'm not sure it's worth the trade off for my future P270WM which will be for gaming, multimedia, content creation, etc.

 

It doesn't matter because the GTX 675M = GTX 580M. It's the same card.

I have an Everki EKP120 Titan backpack that fits my D901C and all associated computer kit (bluetooth keyboard, headset, wireless mouse, power brick, the mouse's charger, headset charger, X360 controller, a Wii remote, flash drive, etc. with room to spare. However, it becomes very heavy. I wouldn't want to carry that much weight around for longer than an hour without taking a 5-10 minute sitdown break.

As for a cooler, it probably doesn't even need one. The only thing a cooler would do is prop the laptop up on an angle which would make it easier to use as a true desktop replacement (this statement is true for my setup--it doesn't need the cooler's fans at all).

 

There are the coolers like the Zalmans 2000/3000 laptop coolers would be ideal for cooling a laptop like the Clevo, there are also coolers that are made from thermal material that have to be in contact with the bottom of the laptop to draw the heat away, because the fans are on the bottom of the Clevo laptop, these wouldn't work, in fact they'd have the opposite effect by blocking the air intakes.

 

I have the ZM-Nc2000 and it works like a charm.
I really dislike the position of the fans/holes though, and have to turn it backwards to use it with my current laptop.
Hopefully it's different for this one

 

Thanks for the pointers about airflow patterns and cooling. I think that I'll monitor my temps and pickup a zalman cooler if need be.

This is worse than Christmas eve for a six year-old.... Frank! Send me my presents!!!

 

i wonder how powerful 7990m would be compare to 680m. 7990m is release later than 680 probably so it'll probably be interesting to see.

but then looking back at 6990m compared to 6970m, it wasnt much of a performance boost =/

 

I also own a Zalman 2000, I bought years ago for use on a 17inch Asus, but the laptop never ran hot and the air inlets are on the side so the effect wouldn't be that great.

I loaned it to a friend for a while who had a lattitude 620 and it has the inlet on the bottom and reduced the temps by 20C, this Clevo as all the inlets underneath and towards the rear of the laptop, which is where the nc2000 fans are situated, so I think the cooler would be ideal for clevo.

That being said there could be better coolers on the market, I have no idea how effective this cooler will be with handling 3/4 inlets.

 

If I had to guess, I'd say the 680M should compete vs the 7970M and the 685M vs 7990M. Only time will tell what will happen in reality though. If AMD played it shy on TDP this time around and the 680m is significantly faster than the 7970M, then there may be a 680M vs 7990M scenario.

 

7970m and 7990m have smaller die means lower TDP right? although i donno how the card would actually perform. and are they releasing 685m? thats crazy!

 

Just curious, will the NP9270 be able to upgrade to these newer video cards once they are released? In other words, will one be able to remove the current video card (for example a GTX 580m) and replace with a newer video card like the GTX 680m?

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Assuming it's the same connection, and the GPU doesn't require too much power, then yes you should be able to upgrade.

 

You need 3 things for new GPU gen to work in older laptops:

1) BIOS/EC with added support for the new card and correct fan thresholds.
2) Compatible MXM type
3) Drivers

 

Although the 680m is from the same run as the the 670s that are gonna be in mine, so there shouldn't be any compatibility issues at all.

 

I'm talking about the next gen, not rebrand. 680m is supposed to be kepler while the 670/675 is fermi.

 

While it is different on that front, as far as putting it in a computer and using it, I don't imagine it'll be different at all. Having it be in the same run line but have completely different compatibilities seems completely stupid to me. Additionally the 660m is keplar and that's compatible in the same stuff that the rebadged fermi cards are compatible with.

 

There's a high chance that all 6xxM cards will be compatible. But I wouldn't bet on it. What if by the time the 680M is available Clevo will silently offer a different mobo revision to address certain power related issues (they are known to make such moves in the past) and all first adopters will be left behind? BTW, Dellienware is also known to change mobo revisions shortly after launch.

 

If this happens I will be very sad, as I'm one of those early adopters. While this could happen, I don't think it to be the more likely of the eventualities... I'd say assuming the 680m will work is a safe plan. If the risk there is too much, then hold off on buying until it's proven.