**Official Sager NP9270 / Clevo P270WM Owners Lounge**

My bday is in June ^^ I might be treating myself a bit ahead of my birthday.

@AoiEsq btw the battery lasts up to 5 hr+ it seems not just 3:30, my mistake there. But that's with nvidia Optimus. Not sure how that will react with 7970M but I would be able to find that out myself next week or so.

 

My bday was in march too but could not ge it!!!!

 

Nice. But how are you going to find out next week? Xotic's configurator says the ETA for the 7970m is late May, and Mythlogic's just says May...

 

I know 2 resellers that ship on first week of may which is this week. One of them Eurocom and 2nd one is Sager NP9170 / Clevo P170EM - Extreme Performance Custom Gaming Laptop | pwnpcs

 

This brings up a good point.

With two cards (in non SLI/XFire mode), I believe the x7200 w/ one or two drives gets just about 40+ minutes on battery (in normal power saving mode). The x7200 with something like the nVidia 460M, i7-960 cpu, 1 SSD, 1 Optical, 12GB RAM, and two Hybrid SSDs gets about 75+ minutes in normal power saving mode.

So what should happen with the P270WM? There's not integrated graphics, so a discrete card is necessary. SNB-E will have slightly less power consumption, these unreleased GPUs remain a question mark. If one were to guess, would it get about the same amount of battery time? Seems like it should.

 

You might want to check out the third page of this review: AVADirect Clevo P270WM Review: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M Powerhouse

 

I hate to be the one to report this, but Sager has just announced:

"We regret to inform those of you that have been patiently waiting for the release of the Sager NP9270 / Clevo P270WM that we expect further delays in availability of this system. Over the last three weeks, Sager and Clevo have been working together testing different motherboard revisions for this system. Despite this effort, we simply have not been able to achieve system stability that is satisfactory for our customers. We have concluded the only way to move forward is to redesign the motherboard on this unit from scratch. We will be providing updates on the launch schedule of the unit as they become available.

In the meantime, we would like to offer our customers who had preordered the NP9270 a $50 discount if they would switch their order to a Sager NP9170.

Thank you again for your patience and understanding."

 

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but here is a update from Sager

 

Saw that, but I' was wondering about the battery life with one low-end GPU. My guess is it will add 10-15 minutes over my x7200 as the SNB-E is a bit better on the power consumption side of things, not to mention the power draw from unreleased nVidia/ATI cards as well.

Awwww, Man!!!! Looks like those rumors were dead-on, and I'll be using the x7200 a bit longer. They shouldn't have discontinued the x7200 so early.

Also, JohnnyFlash and lancedonati, you were right. You were right about the delay. Tell your sister, you were right.


Justin, Donald, Myth, Malibal, Larry, and anyone else with ties to Clevo or Sager(which I assume can get to Clevo),

Could you please try to get a message to Clevo? It would be great if they could use this delay to also develop a SINGLE BRICK power adapter! I'm not going anywhere, so I can wait. But it'd be nice if they could address some of these other issues while also re-working the mobo.

 

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After waking up and reading this, I had a rush of mixed feelings.
First I wanted to find another laptop and maybe save 1k.
Then I thought how much that system wouldn't compare to this.
And now, I feel like I guess I'll try to wait it out....

maybe they can translate that discount to a hardware upgrade or something.

....and no more new laptop for D3... QQ

 

I know. I keep thinking "Well the M18x is kinda cool...". Then I go to the Alienware site, all flashy cool and fun. Pick the model and click the customize button then...


DELL.
DELL.
DELL.

F my life. I can't do it. I can't.

 

You bet...great idea that we will pass along!

 

We took the P270WM off our site a couple weeks ago, because that's when the indefinite delay was announced.

 

Yes this is something that can happen when dealing with cutting edge technology....

We hope to learn more on this soon....

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Don't forget the part about paying far more for a lesser computer with flashing lights (yippee). They do build a sturdy box, so I'll give them that much.

Sorry Sager/Clevo... you just lost a customer.

 

M18x: $3000 (model with single GPU)
P170EM, same features but better CPU: ~$2300

Dell: Bad support compared to many Clevo Resellers, Clevo: Upgradable components, furthermore, you don't have to buy Windows again but can simply use the version you bought for your desktop PC (save ~$150) and you don't have 1000 flashy lights that annoy all the time. I have a G71V atm and it only has 4 of these flashy lights. The first month, they were cool, but after a few months, they became boring and annoying.

So if you want flashy lights, go for Dell.

 

So... a 50$ discount if you decide to go with a lesser laptop? Anything for those of us that intend to hold out? This is turning into a bit of a Charlie Foxtrot...

 

Yeah, I will most likely switch to a P170EM. I'll upgrade to a HD7970m a few months after it's released and probably get a better CPU lateron. The reason is, that I don't want to wait again. I waited since january, now it's enough.

 

Its way beyond that...... at least they had the sense to pull the plug rather than release a problematic product that would have caused a ton of headaches for their return department. Not to mention the hit on their image like Toyota took a few years back.

 

True, but that doesn't solve the having 3k less in the bank, with no laptop, and no viable substitue available. I totally understand that this is better than having them ship and be all borked, but at the same time part of me is like... well maybe mine wouldn't have been a borked one (I'm sure they didn't all break) or why wasn't this caught before they started offering this thing for presale. My irritation here isn't directed at any of the resellers or builders but at Clevo, and I hope that Clevo gives some compensation to all of the companies that plan to sell this rig, because this will probably cost them customers.

 

Not trying to start a flame war but their complete care warranty is a lot better than what the resellers/builders offer. I just dont like the flashy LEDs all over the laptop like what you said.

 

I just spoke with a Dell rep about the m18x. The best they would offer is a 2% discount on a laptop costing $3,899.00.

I'm sorry, but thats just a major rip-off.

 

This is OT now... But to respond to your post, you need to PM Aik. He has always suggested there is a way to get discounts.

Back On Topic... I have no real time frame, and will be waiting to see what Clevo does next with the redesign.

 

Anyone got any opinions on a 990x vs 3920xm? I wanted this laptop mainly because of the hexacore processor. I liked the 12 threads over the 8.

 

This is why I spoke with Dell directly; I thought of what Aik had mentioned and thought it was good idea. Turned out to be a waste of time when the "discount" amounted to nothing whatsoever.

 

the 990 should be a much better processor.

 

Loaner laptop programs anyone??

Sucks being without one while waiting for this to come out lol

 

Good news, guys! At least, now they will design a whole new motherboard from scratch and it will be out close to Ivy Bridge-E launch next year!
And then it will be Ivy-E Core i7 4930K Octo-Core @ 3.8Ghz, 4.6Ghz Turbo
Plus AMD 8000 series of goodness xD

 

This silver lining is not very silver for me, as I still don't have a laptop...

 

Your pain, I feels it.

 

What the....

So this means the p270wm is complety iced right now?

By the sounds of your '"good news" there won't be a p270wm this year?

 

The problem is we don't know have a definition of what "re-design" means.

 

I'm absolutely no specialist, but when you think logically, it took them a few months now to completely test and finish it. So redesign & another test (in case it doesn't fail this time) = ~5-6 months? At least that's what I think

 

but why would they do that?

it costs them money - it costs us money ... argh, why would they completly throw away their motherboard and take a new one?

if they really gonna start of with a new motherboard.. then it's gonna take at least 4months (but then - we still would have wait for IVY-E, because then our processers (such as the 3930K) is kinda old..)

 

Next year is probably a fairly reasonable guess.

 

It would probably be a good idea to change the title of this thread since it appears there will never be any "Owners" of this machine. At least not for another year.

I'm curious, did they have this much trouble prior to the release of the x7200?

 

All,

I feel your pain. I was on pre-order when the first delay was announced and I cancelled and ordered the NP9170 from XoticPC on April 17. It will be in hand next week. At least I'll have a nice laptop...finally.

One thing to watch...Sager isn't offering any "Rush" orders on the NP9170, so don't let a reseller talk you into paying extra for Rush. XoticPC is giving me a $49 refund after I found that out. They do offer overnight shipping, though.

IMO, the NP9170 will be a great laptop, I get a sizeable refund back, and I won't have two bricks to carry around.

I actually feel good about the change. Check out the NP9170 thread. A lot of good things are being said.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...-clevo-p170em-sager-np9170-owners-lounge.html

Edit: Also, here's an article worth reading, comparing hex-core to quad-core benchmarks in various applications. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3960x-x79-performance,3026.html

Slightly OT: Ivy Bridge supposedly runs hotter than Sandy Bridge.
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/ne...mystery_behind_higher_ivy_bridge_temperatures
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ivy-bridge-overclocking-high-temp,15512.html

Hope you feel like I do. Although we wanted the 9270, there's still lots of good stuff to be had out there.

 

I don't feel any pain. In fact, I lost no time, since I'll wait for 7970m now and then order a P170EM.

However, I don't really pay less for the P170EM compared to the P270WM, probably around ~$200, which is the only thing that really bugs me.

 

A total motherboard re-design?! Damn! I have this massive queue of games on Steam that I was saving for the P270WM, which I was going to order right as the GTX 680m was available for pre-order.

Well, I guess it's not all bad. Since we all seem to want just one massive power brick, let's fire off another motherboard redesign recommendation: HDMI-INPUT!!! Please? I mean, you're re-designing it anyway! Just throw it in there, even if it's still the terrible 720p only HDMI-Input. How about it? Someone please relay this to Sager and then to Clevo. That would be excellent.

 

I have a D870P and D901C, and IIRC there weren't any problems whe releasing these models. I do have some kind of recollection of a small delay with the D901F, but I don't think they had announced any official release date (or were taking pre-orders). I believe the D901F was the first to offer SLI and "user upgradable GPUs", but no major delay (just anticipation of its release).

In regards to the x7200, I came into the market just as this was released, but I don't believe there was any kind of delay on its release either.

 

+1
If I were to wait another half year for this desktop like laptop, I'd almost expect it to have that HDMI input along with the SINGLE power brick. Its ridiculous that all us who pre ordered this laptop are almost forced to abandon the design.

On the bright side, maybe by my next birthday.... lololz. What to do, what to do...

 

This is the crux for me. Only thing remotely similar is the AW, which before alleged discounts is more expensive, when similarly built (partially just due to less options) and has one less HDD, 2 if you count the fact that it still sports an optical drive. On top of that I don't want to bail on Myth, they've been awesome through all of this, but their only options are either the 170, which loses SLI and extra HDDs, or to go with a 7200, which doesn't have backlighting, uses an older CPU set and hasn't been tested to work above the 580m...

 

I don't think they are actually going to make a 600W power brick, or are they? Either way, I suppose it's a good thing I was gonna upgrade later this year anyway. As for HDMI input, I forgot why they took it out on the x7200, but it was a feature I really wanted.

 

hang in there buddy, I feel ya on this one. I had high hopes this thing would release soon but now with that redesign in mobo those hopes went swatted like flies . But I didn't regret it much as I've moved on to a p170EM while they cook away in the secret kitchen. They better cook it good this time!!

 

What options are left for dual graphics cards in a laptop? I guess if I knew when I expected this to be ready, I could buy a cheapo interim laptop. But seriously. I'm willing to drop 3.5k for this laptop. I'm sure a lot of people are. They really need to sort this out.

/frustrated

 

AW M18X or some Builders still have some x7200s around

 

yeah. I just talked to alienware. a 15 min conversation with a rep completely turned me off from buying their product.

Whereas whenever I talk to the xotics or mythologic guys, I want to give them my money.

 

Which is why I'm still waiting, sadly computer-less, no one else quite has what I want, and the dudes at Myth kick butt.

 

Have you heard anything about the Clevo 370EM? I see talk of it on some chinese sites.

 

+1 . I would love these improvements too.