**Official Sager NP9270 / Clevo P270WM Owners Lounge**

I feel sorry for those who really needed and have to wait.. Unfortunately for me It has turned out similar with 7970M card =/ I am not getting it shipped on 4th like I had talked with seller. Like always.

 

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That's the only thing I found that's remotely close besides the M18x (barf). And I'll be a spanking monkeys uncle before I pay 6,500 for one of those.

What do you guys think in comparison to the NP9270 (R.I.P.)? And is it a Clevo build anyway?

This whole situation hurts mah heart.

 

So bummed out now. I hope this redesign will be fast, as in ready in June. Anyone know what the problem is? Would like to know what specifically is wrong with the motherboard.

If this redesign is going to take 6 months, I won't be able to wait. I don't want a x7200 or m18x, so is the p170em really the best choice?

 

It was the best choice for me because of the upgrade-ability. Later you can upgrade with a hex-core proc and a new video card, practically coming to specs of the 270. Minus SLI, of course, but a future card will likely beat the specs of 675s in SLI anyway with less power reqs.

Uh oh, I think I may have just painted a target on my back...hah. But seriously, the 170 beats the other competing companies because of future upgrade-ability options, and at a cheaper price.

 

I have to agree with you, seems to be the best deal for the price. I was hoping for hex core, dual video cards, quad channel ram... p170em still seems good. Looks like I'll go for 3820qm, 90% glossy, 16gb 1600mhz ram, 7970m, 120gb ssd, 750gb 7200rpm hd, intel ultimate n wireless. Was thinking about doing the 80gb msata as OS boot drive and then 2 750gb 7200rpm in raid 0, what do you guys think? Perhaps I should move this to a different thread now... Keeping my fingers crossed that p270wm will still come in June....

 

This is just an overpriced malibal X7200... like 50% overpriced.

 

The base rig is more expensive than the 270 I'm waiting on and it comes with one 560M... are these dudes on crack? Falcon's prices are beyond stupid

 

sigh.....intel's problem, now p270 have to relayout mobo

 

Guys , How many are waiting for this model itself? I am thinking maybe a new thread will be started saying sth like p370 so if that happens please post here too!!

 

i'm gonna wait for the p270 to be re-released.

Even though im sick of this dual core, sorry graphics card, 5 year old laptop, AND a broken screen (using a monitor to use this dumb laptop), i'd rather wait for it to be re-released. My reason being:

a similarly built p170 (with srt/90%gamut) goes about $800 cheaper than the p270 i configured. I would only be using one system for the next 3-5 years. i would rather be happy with a great laptop that can do all, than settle for less. So to me, waiting a bit longer and paying $800 more for a SLI/CF compatible laptop and an additional hard drive bay is definitely worth it as far as a long term investment goes.

I could also afford waiting since im in school, and my needs arent as pressing as those who would use this laptop for work. But all this aside, i can definitely see how the p170 is pretty alluring now after waiting 3 months (especially since the 7970 is almost as good as sli 675s).

...but when clevo gets its act together, i cant wait to have some 7970s or possibly better in SLI/CF

 

who know when will release Nvidia GTX 680M???
01.06.12??? or later?

 

The resslers I called stated Clevo informed them of a 6-7 month lead time on the re design. R.I.P P270WM. I plan on getting the P170 in the mean time and for better comp setups in the future.

 

On the P170; you guys really think it's worth the extra $100 and waiting another month for the Radeon HD 7970M? I'm thinking that the 675M is a good enough single video card for now and something that'll get me through until the P270WM comes out for a bit. I'm 50/50, torn right now. Do I wait or get the P170 to hold me over. I'm thinking a P170 will fill the void and then later I can take a look and see if they've got the single power brick and what dual video card setup they'll have. It can only get better. It is a letdown they cancelled, but thank goodness they didn't ship a bunch of junk for the sake of it. I've never owned a Sager, but for the prices compared to Dell/Alien, etc. I intend to be a long term customer - if they keep their pricing down.

 

I can't spend $3000 every 6 months for a new laptop. I'll wait a month for the 7970M and the P170EM will hopefully be my Notebook for some years That's why I wait. I'll probably upgrade it lateron. In case you can spend $3000 every 6 months or sell them via ebay, then it probably does not matter.

 

if its a redesign of motherboard, i hope at least for a 19+ inch laptop =)

 

Nooooo! 6-7 months?!?!?!?!? I hope this is false info. Say it ain't so! I can't wait until Thanksgiving or later...

Guess I will have to get a p170em. Anyone know of any other decent laptops coming out in the next month or two that would be comparable to a p170em or even p270wm? Want to make sure I don't get a p170em only for something better to be released shortly thereafter.

 

Wow. That's a long time to be without an SLI capable laptop in your product lineup.

 

No one knows at this time when it will be released. It will be released when nVidia announces it.

 

At the size you are asking, you might want to just consider getting a desktop computer.

There have been enough people in these forums commenting on having some difficulties finding a suitable carry bag for their 18" laptops, much less comments on the weight of the 18".

Frankly, I think that if more 17" laptops were offered with dual GPU configurations, people may consider those over an 18".

I can almost guarantee Sager/Clevo won't be redesigning the entire laptop considering the time and costs involved in making the shells to go with the mainboard redesign.

 

Too much drama. I just pulled the trigger on the P170. I didn't opt for the 7970 - as I'm tired of the wait game. And I can't wait until next year for the 270. My confidence is shaken in the 270 right now. When they get the bugs worked out, I'll take a look again. And by that timeframe it'll be interesting the configuration options, video cards, etc. A lot changes in 1 years time. It was a great dream while it lasted and we'll see what the future holds. Best of luck to those holding out for the 270...

 

Yea, I just put in an order for a completely stock p170.

If its gonna be a 6+ month wait, I'm sure I can make up enough (or sell the p170) to settle the difference.

Disappointed, but at least WHEN the p270 is out, it should be near flawless.

 

um i could find 4-5 18" laptop bag just fine, put it into google, ncix, newegg, pricebat or even ebay, results come up like crazy. to make a 17 inch laptop into 18 inch or bigger would mean complete redesign i guess, which is probably a completely different model of a laptop, i understand why it will probably not happen. i seriously miss the old days sager/clevo's 20 inch laptop. with the technologies now if there was a 18+ inch laptop it could pack some serious spec hardware in it.

this is also probably the reason i'd go for an alienware m18x R2 again this time around simply because they can fit three 7mm 2.5inch harddrive and that was mainly what concerned me. i mean clevo had that and with the desktop CPU i would definitly buy clevo hands down. but now alienware step it up a bit, and with 4 usb 3.0 ports i think clevo should probably think about changing a few things.

then of course i am just one of tens and thousands of customer out there thought i'd share my 2cent

 

Well.... This sucks. To me the purpose in buying the high end laptop is three-fold. To play the latest games in high res; to have a laptop that stays technically relevant for as long as possible; to not have to lug my desktop to LAN parties.

Toward that last point:

Now perhaps the market in general differs on this. I recall a 20" laptop was made within the last few years though I wasn't on the market at the time. As for myself, I would buy the biggest screen with fastest hardware that was practically possible in budget ($4-5k).

Reason: I am purchasing a DTR, if I wanted a portable I could actually go jogging with, I'd get a mobile for half the money. I am buying a machine that provides me a one piece solution to taking my gaming, entertainment etc outside my home. Currently I have to break down my desk, carry out & put the ~25#+ tower in the truck, get the 10-15# 24" monitor as well, plus mouse, keyboard & speakers. Its all not designed to be portable, I risk breaking something or having issues with function after every move.

To go to a LAN party with that desktop every month or two is damn near exhausting at 48/yo. If there was a "laptop" that had a 24" screen and weighed 20#s with similar hardware (RAM, CPU, Vid) I'd be all over it. The point isn't making it featherweight, its making it capable of portability compared to the desktop.

Think about M*A*S*H on the episode where the new colonel wanted them to move across the road because it was a "mobile" hospital. The idea is that it can be moved, not that you carry it around all the time...

I'd like to see an 18, 19, 20 or even yes, a 24" monster. The question is whether enough other people see the use to make it economically viable to produce for some company.

 

Um... iMAC with bootcamp? you get it all the way up to 32" screens. Sorry bad joke . Let's wait for the P270WM or the "other" one P370.

 

What's the current speculation on the P370? In terms of... summer, fall, next year, etc.

 

I just have a question, is this 5-6 month delay on the p270wm confirmed?

 

Not exactly. They said they were going to redesign the mainboard from scratch. How long that will take is unknown, but expecting a 6 month or more delay isn't unreasonable. My guess is that they will aim for the coming Christmas season, if not wait until early next year.

I say this because the sales person I had been dealing with urged me to wait through each of the past few delays. This time he not only offered a refund up front, he offered a discount towards the purchase of a different laptop. This tells me the P270 is delayed indefinitely, if not cancelled altogether. I'm leaning more towards cancelled with a return as a different model.

 

Thanks for the info... I guess I need to look for a different laptop. I'll probably go back to the p150em for the 95% matte.

 

Next question I have is what does "achieve system stability that is satisfactory for our customers" actually mean?

My guess is it couldn't dissipate the heat of SLI/XFire along with an SNB-E or IVB-E (engineering sample). Or perhaps there were power problems? In any case, if anyone has any confirmed information, I bet a bunch of us would love to know.

 

Heh a friend of mine (who is a conspiracy nut) suggested maybe the build was too good of quality, and because laptop manufacturers want planned obsolescence it wasn't wearing out soon enough.

 

Heh, that sounds like an optimistic reason for the delays, but if that was the case, sager just trolled everyone who pre ordered that bundle of joy =/

 

Where are you pulling these 6 month+ delays from?

Mythlogic themselves told me that the delay would be around a month.

It doesn't take six months to redesign a motherboard.

 

Also, you do realise that this beast of a laptop will be configurable with Xfire 7970M? Why would you want a 680M or SLI 675M?

 

but.........mobo relayout>>>heatsink redesign>>>small es sample testing/bios optimization>>>sager xtu related delay(u know)>>>pre order>>>mass production start>>>shipped

 

I made this comment on the last page:

"... the sales person I had been dealing with urged me to wait through each of the past few delays. This time he not only offered a refund up front, he offered a discount towards the purchase of a different laptop. This tells me the P270 is delayed indefinitely, if not cancelled altogether. I'm leaning more towards cancelled with a return as a different model."

If the delay was only going to be a month my sales person would have tried to get me to wait again; and I would have waited. Why make the offer he made if this was only going to be another short delay? Why offer a different laptop unless the one I wanted was most likely not going to make it to production?

To me it means the P270 is most likely dead. Will it be released as a different model in the future? Who knows. But I'll buy it, whatever it is, if I'm still looking for a new laptop. Assuming they fix all the problems they are having, of course.

 

We just do not know yet, sad to say...

Next week I will try to get more details on what can we expect. Sager and all of the resellers I am sure are very sorry about this.

_

 

Can we get some details on the reason why a motherboard redesign is required? DXG said something about it being Intel's fault, but did not elaborate. I know I'm not the only one who would like some insight into this.

Also: Let's get some HDMI-Input happening on the re-design! Get to it!

 

ava direct told me 3-6 months to get it to market.

 

^^^^^^this

 

Some People just prefer the Green Cards ove the Red ones (mostly because of better driver support (SLI is so much better than Xfire.. omg!) and Cuda (gets you 30% faster encoding (if not more - depends on program))

but this is an old discussion - i personally prefer the red team, cause of the power you get for the price, and if you got a 6core Desktop CPU in a mobile computer, then it's gonna be less difference to cuda.
If there werent so much issues with the xfires... then may all the people would get the red cards.



And yeah - lets hope it doesn't take Clevo too long to redesing this monster

 

Yeah I've always preferred Nvidia, It's what I've always used, and as I've never had any issues, I'm not comfortable switching especially not on a product this pricey.

 

A single 7970M is more powerful than the 675M in SLI configuration and only costs $100 more.

 

Or worded another way. What stability issues were encountered? Heat problems? Performance problems? Power problems? Will Clevo be transparent enough to tell the world what exact of problems they encountered that required a mobo redesign??

 

Malibal pulled it off there site about a month ago. The last two resellers I talked to stated they got the 6+ month from Clevo. If Clevo put out a statement to thier resellers I doubt it will only be a month delay. If Myth or any other reseller is getting something different than all the other resellers I would like know thier source.

 

Hi Everyone,

We regret to inform you that the Nyx 7212 has been further delayed by Clevo. This delay has been caused by the instability of the motherboard, and will require them to redesign and re-layout the motherboard yet again. We have been told that they don't have an ETA as they don't know how long it will take to get a better design. Typically it takes around a month for a redesign of the motherboard, however, that is speculation. We deeply regret this further delay. We do have other laptop solutions such as the Nyx 1712 ( MYTHLOGIC :: Configure Your System ) which only has a single video card. We can also get the older X7200 if anyone would like to consider that as an option.

We will keep you update via email and through our Facebook and website as we get closer. Please feel free to let us know if you have any other questions.

Received, via Email from Myth

 

R.i.p Np270wm

 

I highly doubt it'll take 6 months...I mean they aren't redesigning the chassis.

It's unlikely that a motherboard redesign could take that long and from a business standpoint for clevo, it's very bad. You can bet they are working on a fix right now - if it's released toward the end of the year, people will just wait until next april/may for the next graphics cards.

 

Probably, the redesign is faster but every kind of testing has to be done again

 

That sager marketing is impressive.

This delay is gonna make me a sad but eventually proud owner of the p170 and p270.

GG

 

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