**Official Sager NP9270 / Clevo P270WM Owners Lounge**

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Those are left over stock PRE-recall. Not POST-recall redesigns

 

Whats myth doing with their pre-recall stock. I wasnt aware that any 9270s have been sold. On every site I shop, it had an ETA and then went away.

 

Well the first link showed 675m meaning newer machines. The second is pre-recall as they are 580m and 6970's................

 

We had to give it all back, because we like being good partners with our suppliers =) What other companies do, thats up to them lol.

They are all pre-recall, the 675m works just fine in the P270, now if it was 7970m cfx then we could get excited.

 

I guess I can't tell the kids I want a NP9270 for Fathers Day. Well I could but it appears I'll be sorely disappointed....................

 

alright so whats goin on with this one ?? i know its been delayed or pulled back but why ?? wuts upp cleevoo

 

It was delayed to November-ish due to requiring a total motherboard redesign. None of us know the reason why. All we were given is that the P270WM had a 'high failure rate.' No specific part was named for the failure. I'd like to know exactly what was faulty enough to warrant a total motherboard redesign, as would many others.

 

i think thats better for both parties .. no one wna spend 4k's on something that does not work properly.

and they could be reading forums making some revisions while they can

 

btw i wonder how many harddrives can this machine hold, when its released. or the older version p170, with or without optical drive. what i mean is, how many harddrive in this laptop when optical drive is replaced by HDD caddy and when it isnt

 

Assuming it follows the pattern the NP9170 and NP9150 have of offering an mSATA slot, this laptop should have been capable of handling a maximum of 5 hard drives if one was in the optical bay.
If one chose to keep the optical drive, then a potential (again this is IF it offered the mSATA slot) of 4 hard drives could be installed with the optical drive intact.
this laptop was supposed to be the replacement for the NP8180 after all, so it should have had similar build and specs.

The NP9170 should be capable of handling 4 hard drives (one of those in the optical drive bay). It can handle 3 hard drives (mSATA is factored in here) and the optical drive.

 

thanks for the quick reply!just have to know what i will be getting

 

really!? p270wm will support msata!?

btw if clevo make good use of its middle hdd caddy space, it can handle 3 hdds like m18x 9.5mm+7mm+9.5mm

 

You could get 7mm in there if you remove that black bracket on Intel SSDs. Cool!

 

I recall for the short time the P270 WAS available, you could fit 3 HDDs into it.

 

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Yes, but not in one drive bay. There was a "double" bay in the middle and a third bay under the battery.

So, if they took DGDXGDG's suggestion, you might be able to squeeze 4 (or possibly 5 w/ out optical) drives with a redesigned caddy. We'll have to see what changes (if any) occur on the redesign.

 

Really? Was the P270 available for selling at some stage?

In which period? and by which seller? Please if you have any information about that, it would be very usefull for me.

 

I never flatly stated that it would, but given that most of this has been speculation and from observations of the other higher-end Sager models, I don't think it should be ruled out as a possibility.

We really won't know until (assuming it ever is) officially released.

 

Dunno if this is still available, but supposedly the link on this post takes you to the reseller - http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...evo-p270wm-owners-lounge-165.html#post8581649

 

I think all Sager resellers had it up for a while.

 

A short while indeed, I can only guesstimate that late May is when I was looking at it, I'll have to check my history when I get on my desktop.

 

It was available for sale as a pre-order. They were never actually sold to customers. They could only sell it when they got the OK from Clevo.

If you're interesting in similar power for GAMES, go with m18x. It can support Xfire/SLI and isn't as overpriced as people think. The 3610QM is fine for games. The only reason to have got the p270wm was for processor heavy applications. You don't need that kind of desktop processor unless you're doing some heavy number crunching.

That being said, the p270wm is currently unrivaled as the greatest workstation you can get in a laptop (intel freaking xeon in a laptop). Massive shame it had to be delayed.

 

Since I currently use Canon DPP and some video encoding software the hex cores would have been nice.This and I also would like to get into using CS6 so the huge amount of ram and internal HDD space would have been nice as well. Video SLI was never really something I needed.

My issue in waiting for this system is Windows 8. I just do not want it forced on me. Windows 7, while maybe not as optimized, runs fine for what I need. Now if we get an option to use Windows 7 as the installed OS then it may be worth the wait, at least for me..............

 

The two resellers I was checking the most both offered the P270 without an OS. Purchase it like that and put Win7 on it if you want. Finding drivers won't be an issue, and shouldn't be an issue for a few more years down the road.

I have a 3 1/2 year old Asus laptop and can install XP if I choose to do so. A simple Google search found all the drivers I needed. XP drivers aren't updated any longer, so I have to stick with outdated versions. But thats no problem since the only time I use XP is in a virtual window for old apps that don't like Win7.

 

I hope this notebook will available again soon. Even with entry-level SB-E CPU, i7-3820, you can get it run at 3.8GHz with all four cores active (depend on the system design). With very good cooling since SB-E use a lot of power, you can overclock it up to 5GHz. I can guess why they go back to the drawing board.

 

thats all in theory but we all know its impossible for this laptop, to OC 3820 to 5 ghz lets face it lol. its a desktop CPU in a laptop and with much MUCH less space and air flow.

 

In terms of overclocking (if any), I would be happy with just 4.0GHz on the dot. It's already blisteringly fast at stock speed, so I don't think 4.0GHz is asking too much. 5.0GHz is just a pipe dream for this form factor.

 

Even if it's possible the temps would overdue the actual blazing speeds.. not necessary unless you want to impress or benchmark the hell of this thing

 

Hi!

Can this be true, or is it a joke? Eurocom Panther 5.0

 

It's Eurocom, so it's a joke.

The P270WM will not be available until ~November (I think?) so don't take anything like what you linked seriously until then.

 

Not 100% about this, but I believe this was originally posted on April Fool's Day. See post - http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...levo-p270wm-owners-lounge-79.html#post8415879

 

Six months is a long time.

 

If you back date to the original announcement, almost at 4 months wait.

 

Four out of the six (we know for certain it's at LEAST six) months have passed. Not much longer now!

 

How do you figure there's only 2 months to go? I thought the 'back to the drawing board' announcement was made in May, and that it would be an additional 6 months from that point. Don't feel like going back through the posts to verify this... sorry.

If this is the case, then November is a better estimate.

 

Eurocom was actually selling p270wm through ebay, I don't know why they didn't just send back the machines to clevo has they should have.

Actually I had a really bad experience with this shop:

I saw it for sale on ebay about the time they were supposed to be released, so I thought that they were already officially out, (being so eager to get one I didn't even came here to check...)

When I got it I straight away realized there were problems and came here to see if other people had the same issues, (this was about a month before the news came that it went back to the drawing board) and I found it wasn't officially realeased, I had a big email fight with them about 20 emails or more in which they were standing by their machine. Until I threatened to ask clevo and intel about the issues, that's when they backed off and finally I managed to send it back and get my money back... Be careful with those guys!!


The major problem of the beast was serious overheating, CPU (i7 3930k) reaching 91 Celsius degrees after a few minutes of stress testing and stabilizing at that temp by underclocking down to 2500MHz. I guess that's why 17% of them would crash after 3 days stress testing (Surprisingly this chips seem to stand this high temps for much longer than I would expect, but for sure if you keep running it this hot it will die much quicker than it should)

Now I'm just waiting for the final version to come out, as the power of the machine was really great...

 

Wow!! Tales from the dark side. Thx for sharing. (+1 rep)

 

nope, thats intel's chip's problem, force clevo to redesign mobo......
if its just heat problem, add more heat pipes and stronger fans will easily slove it, and cost much more less than redesign mobo

 

Do you have any more info about the chip's problem? I'm quite curious about this.

I was also finding it strange that a motherboard redesign could solve heat issues...

And what about the overheating, do you think it was just an issue of my specific computer, or something the clevo wasn't worried about until they sorted out the bigger issue?

 

umm, only clevo rd knows.........
so you have first batch of p270? was 3930k [email protected] or turbo boost up a little under stress test? bcz laptops are design to run "tdp" full load under ambient 35c without downclock

 

actually no, its clevo decided they want to have a flagship laptop with desktop CPU in it, intel did not force clevo to redesign mobo. and also, you should probably read back what Aikimox has posted. adding heatsink and stronger fan would reduce the heat within the system, however they will need to draw heat from the chip TO the heatsink first and i believe thas nothing to do with how big the heatsink is etc.

if they are redesigning the mobo due to heat issue, i wish they would just make a 18-20 inch laptop =D

 

HDMI-Input is all I need added to a redesign. Also the possibility of just one monstrous power brick instead of two daisy chained bricks. Yup, just those two things.

About what I said on only 2 months more wait: I meant that as until the possibility of some information. You all remember we were given info on the P270 and its spec sheet ~2 months in advance of its initially scheduled launch in February. I'm optimistic that we will get info in September on the redesigned version. As for an actual launch, I am expecting late November to mid-December.

 

No option for oc in bios and i wouldn't even try coz it was running at 91 celscius degrees at stock after a few minutes running prime95.... it would start at 3.2 and go down to 2.5 after around 20 minutes.
All fans were working and the back of the computer was unobstructed.

 

In this latest review of the MBP - Apple MacBook Pro with Retina Display: Performance there are comparisons against the P270WM.

At first I thought this was something to look forward to, but my guess is, the article is using benches taken a while back from the pre-release P270WMs. Bad guess??

 

so thats no good, maybe theres something wrong with your heatsink/fan/tim
bcz clevo research lab will do full load test to ensure running @ stock&no downclocking

 

The guys at eurocom also assured me that they did a lot of testing before sending e the machine, the fact was that it was overheating when it got to my hand.
When i realized it was not the final product and there was no solution for the overheating from eurocom i sent it back...

 

imagine the size of the fan/heatsink combo this thing is going to end up with! they'll remove the battery and just have a double size heatsink


who uses the monster on battery anyway!

 

I'd use it on battery if the power went out

 

honestly, its about "cost", clevo can easily work with thermal company, produce a more powerful heatsink using vapor chamber/enclosed liquid cooling......with same space

if there is two type: p270wm & p270xm
p270wm=normal one
p270xm=advanced cooling compared to normal one, cpu&gpu both up to 20c colder, and power circuit unit also enhanced for oc......but cost $300 more
which one will you choose guys? i no doubt p270xm haha

 

P270XM for me if there was such a thing. The colder, the better.