**Official Sager NP9270 / Clevo P270WM Owners Lounge**

on notebookcheck its showing 122 TDP jump from 100 680m. thats 22W TDP per card, how you get 50? Aikimox, as for your customized heatsink modd care to show a picture? =D is it three thicker copper pipes or 4 copper pipes?

I did some recording on Hwinfo heatsink from 1 pipe to 3 pipes is about 8-10 C difference on idle and under load

 

yeah, it's about 120W and at least some of the power beasts (M17x, M18x) should be able to handle.


As for my heatsink mod, I will show the pictures when it's close to completion. It's not just the pipes, there's more to it. Some parts aren't even copper anymore

 

man I wish I know some tech guy that custom mod heatsink..

on the other note.. heres the latest release barefoot 3 drive from OCZ, performance should be MUCH MUCH higher than vertex 4 =D OCZ Vector 256GB SSD Review :: TweakTown USA Edition

 

Right on! that's the drive I've been waiting for! Finally, a decent alternative to Crucial. Can't wait till the price is right to grab a couple of these boys for an ultra fast raid

 

so rumor broadwell cpu and onward will be soldered onto mobo, although theres a small chance skylake maybe back to LGA socketed but too far and unsure at this point and this is for both desktop and all mobile computers including laptop/tablets etc.

so.. when haswell E comes out, this laptop will be the best LGA socket laptop for awhile, or period unless AMD does something amazing and bring up CPU performance but from what I can see right now they are still quite behind intel.

 

44w + power delivery component losses.

 

but thats not 44-50watts for single heatsink. its 44-50 / 2 cause theres 2 heatsink so TDP splits.

 

btw, what usb 3.0 controller does this laptop use? please tell me its ASMedia LOL

 

When someone gets their hands on one, I'm sure we'll know, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was an NEC USB 3.0 controller. That matches what they're using in the x7200.

 

i dislike having my usb 3 devices bottleneck because controller isnt good. my desktop could run few of my usb3 devices at 300+mb/s while my alienware can only do 230 read max, and 170 write max.

 

another good news for this laptop, looks like quite a few x79 board are getting Trim raid 0 support now "http://www.rwlabs.com/article.php?id=745" scroll to bottom of 1st page.. and there it is

 

Good find! That's pretty sweet.

 

Question is, can users update it themselves or will they have to wait for Clevo?

 

Probably would have to be clevo since they encrypt their bios.

 

Which means - very unlikely to happen

 

For others maybe, but our version will have it either the first BIOS update or right out the box This is why we always have our own BIOS's

 

when you said "our own" does that mean from mythlogic only?

 

Yes. Myth has their own separate BIOS which is different from Sager's BIOS.

 

Great to hear! Now, if you also could make your own, improved cooling... dreams...

 

LOL yep, doesnt look like that 4 pipes heatsink is enough, TDP on 3960x compare to 2960xm is like 150 (stocked) to 67 (overclocked) so something needs to be done at least. btw hows your modded heatsink going.

 

Going strong, M8. Getting new materials for minor tweaking, will be switching to final testing around Xmas. There's a lot to improve but when I'm done, overheating will be a non-issue even at 1GHz + overclock. Things starting to look very optimistic.

 

hey Aikimox, look at this vector in R0, performance is over the top. one drive QD1 read is only 350 but in R0 it goes to 1000+ lol OCZ Vector 256GB RAID 0 TRIM SSD Review

kinda off topic though =)

 

I've got a question for you people.

Is the Malibal X570SE the same thing as this P270WM? It certainly seems to be.

 

Its the p570 iirc the new revision of the p270.

 

What's new about it? Anything really? New GPU support and stuffs?

 

Name, i think.

 

Ivy Bridge Desktop CPU

 

No, both are still sandybridge-E, x79 users are still waiting for the next architecture.

 

Opps indeed you're right, got used to seeing i7-3XXX for Ivy.

 

So I assume it's just GPU differences? x_X

 

looks like a good priced notebook for 3930k and 2x 7970m but cooling is a problem. looks like im gonna have to wait till at least haswell E before I buy this.

 

are the processors sandy bridge or ivy bridge? Some resellers has it as Ivy. Im confused.

 

The machine will support both architectures if I'm not mistaken but primarily comes with Ivy bridge as it's the current generation of processors.

 

All socket 2011 CPUs are SandyBridge-E, it never received an Ivy bridge refresh. It might not even see haswell, it may be the next one.

 

Just as a FYI when we start shipping (I hope real soon now), all our's will have RST 11.6+ on them, no RSTe, so it'll be fun with TRIM

 

Now to see when people stop saying don't go raid 0 it has not trim support.

I give it 24 months.

 

use 11.0+ OROM and 11.0+ RST and you'll have TRIM support in raid0 on a x79 chipset.

also, heaton sk heaton?

 

First batch of P570WM arrived in Europe yesterday.
Any questions?

 

CPU heatsink size and thickness = ?

 

what are the temps with sli/cf and at least 3930k cpu running regular 3dmark vantage?

 

LOL its all about heat in question. i remember someone posted he got one of the beta machine off ebay from eurocom even though those machines were suppose to be recalled. idle temp for 3930k was 90C? if heatsink didn't change much i dont see how this mobile computer will able to cool anything.

 

without any extra cooling, no elevation and normal room temps (75-80F)

 

screemshots?

 

ROFL im just thinking if its possible to turn off 2 threads and becomes 10 threads, still two more that way to lower TDP and can overclock much higher LOL

 

I am a complete newB here and on most any forums. I have been considering the Eurocom panther 4.0 maxed out with exception of ssd, that is; only one intel 910 800gb enterprise ssd, for long term and considerable use. The xeon 2687w seems a bit more stable and I would like max power with stability for my architecutral and engineering work. Also configured with 2x4gb K5000m's, according to Nvidia's tech although its not in SLI, it should double my speeds. The other option I have been considering is a maxed out M6700 covet edition(school colors). The price for the m6700 is $7250.00 without shipping or tax. The Panther price quoted is $12,017.00 includes shipping and everything.

I have read almost every post about either one that is available in a 50 page search radius. The concerns are with the future proof of the systems, the warranties, customer service, and quality of product. Either way I go I will be wanting to use this system for 4-5 years plus and power through the cad, renders, solidworks, rhino, CS6 etc. The xeon 2687w and the 3940x are not comparable in function, however they both provide extreme stability, especially if you can't overclock the i7 in the 6700 and can not OC the Xeon. I would appreciate the solid input and unbiased opinion of the community here.

 

solid input, not so solid from me but heres something you might wanna know first.

-Eurocom, do not get anything from them.. read back and look it up on google, Eurocom + NBR and you may find some horror stories about their customer service.

-intel 910 SSD, that thing does not go into a laptop.. lol, if you want some high end endurance SSD, wait for intel's latest DC S3700 HETMLC SSD, possibility looking at 20-30k write cycles which is a good 5-10 years usage even if you were to torrent on it, 24/7. get the 400gb of that version, two of them in Raid0 for near 1GB/s performance.

-no need to go for K5000m, if you can't put it in SLI, dont get it. theres 680m with 4GB of memory, and its much much cheaper than K5000m. with two 680m, that goes in SLI. imo if you can wait 1-2 years, chances are 780m or 880m will be in 4-6gb

-12 grand is a lot of money, you could go for a dual xeon CPU mobile workstation setup which would destroy panther 4.0, except fact that this mobile work station does not go into a bag, however its still smaller and more mobile than most desktop, screen is attached to it on the side, picture it!

-xeon CPU tends to be more reliable, but I have never owned one so what do I know right? 3940x? do you mean 3940xm? if so it just came out a month ago, how are they stable? anyone who owned them at most for a month of usage lol. imho since you can not overclock 3930k+ in this notebook, you lose performance compare to 3940xm when overclocked to 4.5ghz.

finally I should add that 3940xm goes into alienware m18x laptop, overclock higher than 4.5ghz, contains two 680m in SLI and 4 2.5" storage bay if you were to take out ODD bay.

 

I think Takaezo aims at a "Professional beast" there...

IMHO this mashine is the best choice for exactly that use. Hexacore, 2x Quadros & a good color gammut screen suddenly make a lot of sence...i would drop Mythlogic here a line as I just chatted with him regarding 2 x K5000M on this model. :hi2:

EDIT: This is a single K5M bench from my good old system at stock voltage:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5277297

 

Hello i'm really curious to understand how those quadro should work together, if they are not SLI connected, should they work together one as a quadro and the other one as a tesla in some sort of mximus technology?
Else i really don't how is possible to deivide the yarious tasks between them, if not by using a specifically designed application.

 

Hey

Yea basically the application has to be aware that there are basically two cores that it can be running things on.. Its kind of like maximus but not quite, they literally show up as two different GPU's, so you can tell program A to use one and program B to use another one, or you setup batch jobs if the app supports it and dedicate the GPU's to the batch jobs.

And yea drop us a line, we do these type of high end content creation workstations all the time.

 

Appeciate all your input. Mythlogic doesn't even offer this configuration that I could find. The fact is that there is no support for the proffesional application I ill be running on the gtx 680 cards. I was talking about the 800gb DC S3700 HETMLC SSD, that is now offered on the eurocom site. I thought is was called a 910, but maybe mistaken. There are no other companies out there that sell this system in this configuration. If there is I have to spend a crap load of time on the phone special ordering every peice. If you can't configure it to spec and then request a small tweak here and there I dont think that I can trust the rebuilder to back up anything, it becomes a he said she said issue. If there is another company that can put a xeon and two k5000m's and offer a DC3700 HET 800gb ssd then PLEASE let me know asap! thanks