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You are going to RAID0 the mSATAs for storage and RAID0 the 5400RPM HDDs for OS/Boot?

 

No I am going to RAID0 the SSD's and use the 2TB drives as storage drives.

 

I chatted with a tech from MythLogic and he said the 4930MX automatically overclocks to the 3.9 threshold and that is why people are having overclocking issues with the tdp and heat. He said the 4930MX aint worth the extra 600 bucks. ugh.....

 

OK, that doesn't sound backwards

If Mythlogic price matches let us know. XD
They are a little higher for a few reasons. They build the system, unlike Sager resellers. So, it will be a Mythlogic Nyx 3713-Black 3D (Clevo P370SM3). They have a few items added standard that others will add for a price, IC Diamond paste, monitor calibration. They also have some different hardware choices, brands. Having hands-on experience and extensive testing that they do themselves comes at a price.

 

Falcon-NW are SERIOUSLY!!! overpriced it make me sick to my stomach what they want for a similar spec'd system offered by Xoticpc, Mythlogic, XMG.

 

I'm definitely want to get one through Mythlogic

 

The Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown

 

thanks! i figured out there is a bug on my machine
its the "processor current limit", stock is at 70A, seems like nothing wrong (70A*1.2v=84W).......but stuck at 3.3g/55w tdp
set it to 100A or more (others@stock) finally let me 4 cores 3.7g 65w..........

 

You can never be sure how those values are calibrated or what voltage they are talking about.

 

Did you try the new ThrottleStop 6 BETA? Changing to 112A instead of stock 55A could bump your speeds to 3.7Ghz on all cores with no throttling. If you want to go higher, raise the TDP to at least 80W to go to 3.9Ghz (4 cores)

Almost all the values reset each time you reboot though... But it's worth give it a shot! Let us know if it'll work for you and don't forget to check the temps))

 

With XTU you can easily do 4.0x4 fixed, I game with that. And the settings stick, no need to re-apply them with every re-boot.

But they will never run fixed at 4.0x4, for thermal reasons. After a while, they throttle back for reaching 95+ degrees, even with fans at full blast (FN-1)

Maybe repasting will improve a bit, but for now, 3.7/3.8x4 is the maximum you can maintain without throttling.

And this is without using GPUs, pure CPU stress testing, I would guess that since one GPU share the sink with the CPU, if you also stress GPUs, it will throttle down even more.

LL

 

Can you please run a 3dmark benchmarks so i can check your CPU scores with mine? Tnx

When do you get 95C+ temps? Gaming?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4

 

Thinking of ordering a NP9380-S. Any experiences from international buyers?

I've checked a few sites such as the sager site and xoticpc and prices are pretty similar. Just looking for some input before I pull the trigger. Price being similar, is there really a difference where I order from? To be honest i'm leaning towards Sager cause I feel i may get the machine sooner since the other companies just order from them as well im guessing? Looking for a machine with 4900MQ and 780m in SLI with everything else being standard (according to sagernotebook site).

Any thoughts and/or experiences welcomed.

EDIT: what warranty are you guys getting?

 

Good questions! Any reseller will actually have the same build times and pricing that Sager has as Sager is doing the production regardless. The only thing that would make it different if you used a service that the reseller offered while Sager did not. That would require shipping to the reseller and then shipping out to you. If you're looking at a build without those services, the build times will be identical. The benefit of going with a reseller is the additional support they offer when you need help troubleshooting issues or arranging a repair as it's much more pleasant going through a reseller for the most part.

Sagers won't have an international warranty, but you'll still have it active. For anything that needs repairs completed that would require shipment back to the US. They offer free shipping in the continental 48 for warranty claims, but sadly you'd be responsible for international shipping. For the most part though, as long as you were comfortable doing so, if a part needs replaced they can ship that to you alone for you to install.

 

Hey Derek, Thanks for the response.

Do you have what i'm looking for in stock?

If so how long do you think it would take to be ready for shipping?

And if I were to order the notebook would you be able to personally check for dead pixels since I am an international buyer and shipping would be quite expensive.

Also, do you offer discount to board members?

 

Yup, Sager currently has the machines available and I'm not aware of any parts they'd be waiting on for the build. We have our official estimates at 5-16 business days but Sager tends go get out in the 5-10 business day realm, so should be pretty fast. The only way I would personally be able to check for dead pixels is if you add an XPC service that has the machine ship to our facility so that we can lay our hands on it. Without an XPC service it'd ship directly from Sager to you. The machines are always inspected for dead pixels at Sager, but they do have a minimum requirement to consider the display being defective. The best way to get yourself covered with getting a display that has no dead pixels is to get the no dead pixel coverage. That way if even one dead pixel is discovered they get you a new display installed and check again. Dead pixels are rare, but they can pop up over time and during shipment. So if that's something your'e really concerned about I'd recommend adding that dead pixel coverage. It's more upfront but saves you in shipping costs and hassle should they be discovered when the machine arrives.

I'm not able to discuss discounts or pricing in the open forums but feel free to shoot me an email or PM and we can talk about that stuff.

 

Thanks for the reply Derek, input appreciated!

 

You're very welcome, let us know if you have any other questions!

 

Not in the SM series, the CPU heatsink is by itself.

 

Hi all, I have a few questions about the sager NP9380, NP9390 vs. NP8295 and hope someone can answer it.
The laptop size does't matter to me, and for my applications, a single GPU is enough. So I want to know if a single GPU NP9390 runs cooler than NP8295. I couldn't find any review/tests on this so I hope I can get an answer here.
The second question is about the screen options. I only see the 72% gamut matte option (which is ~150$ more than the default) for NP8295 on a few websites. I was wondering why sager didn't offer this option on their site. Is there any potential problems using this screen on NP8295?
Thank you all in advance.

 

Hey everyone.

Sager NP9380-S (Clevo P370SM3)
Back Up Software No Back Up Software
Antivirus Software No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE None
OS Redline Boost No Operating System Redline Boost
Operating System No Operating System Standard - Drivers (Windows 7 & 8) + Utility Software Only
XOTIC PC Redline Boost™ Extreme Performance No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
Notebook Cooler No Notebook Cooler
Mouse Accessories No External Mouse
Keyboard (Internal - Laptop) Standard Sager/Clevo Non Chiclet Backlit Keyboard
Keyboard (External) No External Keyboard
Fingerprint Reader Integrated Fingerprint Reader
Headsets No Headset
Port Replicator / Dock / Adapters No Dock/Hub/Adapter
Spare AC Adapter No Spare AC Adapter
Car Adapter No Car Adapter
Battery Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
Case No Carrying Case
Sound Card Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
Camera Integrated Digital Video Camera
TV Tuner No TV Tuner
Memory Card Reader Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
Wireless Network Accessories No Network Accessory
Wireless Network Sager - Intel® Dual Band AC 7260 802.11 A/AC/B/G/N 2.4/5.0GHz + Bluetooth™ 4.0 (SKU - WIFI94)
Bluetooth Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
Optical Drive Bay Hard Drive Caddy No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
External Hard Drive (Back Up) No Back Up Hard Drive
External USB Optical Drive NO External USB Optical Drive
Optical Drive Bay 6x Blu-Ray Burner + 8x DVDRW/CDRW Super Multi Combo Drive (SKU - ODD083)
Raid Raid 0 Stripe Enabled (Requires 2 or 3 Hard Drives. Combines Hard Drives for performance) (Sager)
Second Hard Drive 1TB 5400RPM [SATA II - 3GB/s] (SKU - HDD095)
Primary Hard Drive 1TB 5400RPM [SATA II - 3GB/s] (SKU - HDD098)
mSATA SSD Drive ( Slot 2 ) 240GB Crucial M5 mSATA SSD - Preconfigured as an OS Drive ( Operating System – Drive C: )
mSATA SSD Drive ( Slot 1 ) 240GB Crucial M5 mSATA SSD - Preconfigured as an OS Drive ( Operating System – Drive C: )
Exterior Finish - XOTIC PC Laser-Sketch™ No Laptop Laser-Sketch™
mSATA SSD Drive - Configuration Option RAID-0 Storage - (Stripe) Combines mSATAs for performance. (Requires identical mSATA SSDs)
Exterior Finish - Skins & Wraps Standard Laptop Finish
External Mobile Display No External Mobile Display
Ram 24GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (3 SODIMMS) (Operating System Upgrade Required) (SKU - S4S833P)
External Display Video Adapters No Video Adapter
Copper Cooling Upgrade No Copper Cooling Upgrade
Graphics Video Card SLI (2x) - NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 780M (8.0GB total) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 [User Upgradeable] (SKU – GPU011)
Thermal Compound FREE! - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
Processor Sager - 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4930MX (3.0GHz - 3.9GHz, 8MB Intel® Smart Cache) (SKU – SPU204)
Monitor Calibration NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
Dead Pixel Warranty FREE! - 30 Day No Dead Pixel Warranty
Display 17.3" FHD 16:9 120Hz "MatteType" 72% NTSC Color Gamut Sager Screen (1920x1080) + 1 x NVIDIA® 3D Glasses (*NVIDIA® GTX 780M required) (SKU - S1R555)
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Current Promotion $75 IN-GAME CREDIT! - [WarFrame, D&D: Never Winter and Marvel Heroes] - (Some restrictions / While supplies last / Must be requested in checkout)
Branding Sager Branding
XOTIC Gear No XOTIC PC Gear
White Glove Premium Packaging No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
Outside of U.S. Shipping Coverage No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
Build Time Rush Build (Ships in 1-4 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed) (Subject to Parts Availability) [List Unique Delivery Requirements in Comments Box] (XPC Service)
The XOTIC PC Difference * 24/7 LIFETIME U.S. based technical support
* Extreme QA testing by dedicated technicians
* 24-72 Hour stress testing and benchmarking to ensure top performance and stability
Warranty 3 Year Parts & LIFETIME Ltd Labor Warranty 24/7 Tech Support w/ LCD Accidental Damage Protection for Sager Machines (SKU - WTY013)
XOTIC PC Global Anti-Theft Protection No Global Anti-Theft Protection (Options below require an operating system)
Software Bundle (Not Installed) No Software Bundle
Microsoft Office Software - No Microsoft OFFICE Software


In Phase 2 of my build. Your laptop seems good but i went all out with mine. Has anyone tried any of the custom bios? Can the 4930Mx be overclocked to 4.0 ghz on four cores safely?

 

p37xsm theres 3 type of gpu hs: master-nvidia / master-amd / slave
for compare: slave>master-amd>p17xsm>mater-nvidia

and of course you can get the auo b173hw01 v4, the highest 90% ntsc 17.3 screen, diy put on p17xsm/p37xsm

 

Question for anyone who or is planning to, or even a re-seller that might know.

If i ordered a barebones unit with just CPU and no MEM or VGA or HDD/SDD's , does this unit get shipped with all the necessary componants to build a working unit, i.e brackets for HDD and screws and the GPU heatsinks, and or SLI cable?

 

I just got one of these sager models with a 4700MQ and a single 780M, CPU temps seem fine but my GPU idles at around 50C and the highest ive seen it while playing Battlefield 3 is 88C.

Is this normal?

Thank you.

 

What's your ambient temp?

 

Hi guys,

I finally received my second p375sm, the first one got problems with max fan (reboot) and with the second ssd (port 1) randomly not being recognized on bios between boots.

The retailer said it was sent to factory and sent me one brand new. The point is... Again I'm getting issues with the second ssd (now 2x samsung 840 pro). I'm trying to install as raid 0 (the goal is to have 2x 128gb partitions win+lnx and a big ~690gb for storage).

But I just can't succeed installing this setup, when I try to install Windows 8 (non uefi) it shows some errors right on the first boot and doesn't start. After the reboot the Intel RST shows the second disk as "error occurred" (I swaped the disks and got the same status).

If I use 2 plextor ssd drivers I got no problem at all in raid but the Samsung drivers works perfectly when in ahci mode (not using raid) so doesn't seem to have a problem on the disk it self.

Do You guys have experienced something like this, what do you think is happening? The ssd is on latest firmware.

 

Do you have an optical caddy to see if that helps?

 

Hehe, Dead Space (1) runs around 225 (sometimes 320) FPS .

 

I remember mythlogic saying Windows 8 and the Raid options in the PxxxSM options were giving problems, and that we should not raid them. Don't remember if it was mSATA only that had this issue, but oh well.

 

Unfortunately no Meaker, I ordered with a BD reader. :-\

 

Thanks for the tip, I'll try to install windows 7 to confirm. But strangely the raid seems to work fine with 2x 256 plextor ssds.

Edit1: installing windows 7 now, I'll let you know ASAP about the results.
Edit2: Just like happens sometimes on windows 8 the install processes froze on the "installing updates" step. I'm started again. Just to change something I recreated the raid volume with a strip size of 128 instead of 16.
Edit3: unfortunately the same error, screen attached.

Really don't know what to do now:
1 - The plextor raid working indicates that the controller and slots is OK.
2 - The non-raid Samsung ssds working indicates that the disks are OK.
3 - I'm refusing to believe that I received two defective Clevo laptop in a row - and it is even harder to believe since it seems to work fine using the plextor ssds.

 

Around 75C.

 

I get 39C at idle and 82C on BF3 on GPU with a 4800MQ and a single 780M at 72F ambient temp.

 

That's extremely weird. Both of them are mSATA (or non-mSATA)? If they use the same interface and one breaks but the other does not, that's extremely EXTREMELY weird.

 

Played some Bioshock Infinite and some more Metro 2033.

Metro: temps never above 77C (both CPu and GPU). Settings: Ultra, DX11. No advanced DOF and no tesselation). 4x MSAA. FPS was between 30-65.

Bioshock: temps never above 85 (both CPU and GPU). Settings: Ultra, AA. FPS never dropped below 70.

 

Agreed, really hard to understand what's going on here. The disks are 2x samsung 840 pro 512gb. Both normal ssd (no mSata) and I'm using the ports 0 and 1 (those beside the battery slot) I was using t 2x plextor ssds temporarily waiting the Samsung 840 pro arrive. Now I'm thinking about to return the Samsung disks. I received the Samsung disks on the original box factory sealed.

Another weird thing, 100% of my install attempts resulted in a serie of errors on the first boot and the system didn't start. But if I enable the uefi mode it shows just one or two erros and the system starts but I somehow feel it unstable.

I removed the Samsung disks, recreated the raid on the plextor disks and the install finishes nice and sweet. That's pretty sad since all reviewers says that the Samsung disk is a lot better.

I recorded a video showing the first boot on a install attempt. A lot of errors and then an error on one of the disks (array).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s1_2aVW6WI

Edit: grammar

 

did you try to install WIn8 in UEFI and GPT partitions for the ssds?

 

Yes, two or three times on my tests. When I choose uefi it installs fine or with just one or two error only o the first boot. Strangely the performance was very low for a raid 0 setup. But since uefi don't play very well with Linux (dual boot) I prefer to wait more before jump to uefi/GPT.

 

Did you also try to install windows on a single drive to check if one of your ssd is bad?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4

 

Only in one of the drives, I should have tried that. When I got the os running using uefi (don't know what relation nor why using uefi the system installs) I verified the array on Intel RST app and it didn't identified any errors. I sent an email to retailer asking to change the 840 pro disks for plextor m5p xtreme but I starting to get embarrassed with so many issues.

 

OK, I did a much simpler test to reproduce the error now.

1 - using both 840 pro drives and rebooting repeatedly the machine, for every (around) 6 boots the second disks isn't recognized on bios.

2 - swaped the disks and did the same, again the second (same slot) disk isn't recognized in some boots.

3 - put the plextor disks once again and both disks are recognized 100% of the boots.

 

Worth sending off a bug report to sager for that one.

 

those samsung 840's are the ssd's i was thinking of purchasing. one of them may be bad. i got the crucial m5 ssds so hopefully i wont have any issues installing windows 8.

 

I've not heard of issues with the M500 drives They are very good.

 

They are going to send two more Samsung 840 pro to test, hopefully it will work this time.

Unfortunately my retailer (avell) don't offer the m500 as an option.

I recorded a video showing the drive appearing and disappearing on the bios. Doesn't happen using the plextor m5s at all. There some Portuguese on the video cause I recorded to my retailer but still possible to see the issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwIeqVA1OvM

 

**double post** sorry.

 

Is it just me or did they use a worse display panel on this one than on the last gen model?, i dont know its just missing something, clarity or POP.

its hard to explain or maybe I just got used to it now I'm talking about the 9170, the screen used to be better on that one.

 

Do you happen to have both? You can install HWInfo and see the exact models of monitors installed.

 

Hey guys and girls, first post here!

I had a question regarding the Clevo P372SM-S with 120hz 3D screen

I have just ordered one and I was wondering what is my best option to be able to Use the screen to play the PS3 on.

Now I know it is only HDMI OUT, but it has a Thunderbolt port which I have been told is INPUT and OUTPUT.

Is there any way with an adapter to be able to plug the PS3 (HDMI) into the Thunderbolt port?

I have been told this may work Blackmagic Design: Intensity

Can anyone confirm this?

thanks!
Anthony

 

Looks like that would work just fine. Any video capture card should work too, you would just want to make sure it has HDMI in on it.
But why play PS3 on there when the notebook will blow away the graphics and performance