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Scan have got the P370SM for sale/configuration now as well, and for me it works out cheaper than MYsn.

Has anyone had any experience with Scan's 3XS systems?
3XS - Scan 3XS Graphite LG1715 Gaming Laptop

There are a few people complaining about custom built systems from Scan on their Facebook page.

Makes me think that if I pay more on MYsn, I will be paying for 1st class customer service.

 

I second that. Has anyone figured this one out yet? I have been on a nonstop search for it. The only thing I know is that it is a airplane mode driver but every time I try to install it, I get an error message saying that it didn't install correctly. So, I just disabled it. But it is driving me nuts because I know it's there. I don't like those yellow exclamation points in my Device manager.

 

Would be nice if there was a way to disable 1 of the GPUs in a SLi/Xfire setup to save power when its not needed. Not sure if its possible with the latest Catalyst drivers. Anyone?

 

I'm Not aware of a way unless you wanted to remove the slave GPU

 

New drivers for win 8.1.
Software Upgrade

 

Right ok!

I'm really getting confused now... kinda considering a single GTX 780M over dual HD 8970Ms. Is that a good idea??

I'll be planning to buy another GTX 780M next year at some point, when they get a little cheaper.

Proposed config:

XMG P723 17.3" Pro Gaming Notebook
Display
1 x 17.3" (43.9cm) Full-HD 1920x1080 Matte - Without XMG logo £0.00
Graphics Card
1 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M 4096MB GDDR5 £195.83
Processor
1 x Intel Core i7-4800MQ Quad Core - 2.70 - 3.70GHz 6MB 47W £110.83
Thermal Compound
1 x Arctic Cooling MX-2 Thermal Compound £0.00
Memory
1 x 8GB (2x4096) SO-DIMM DDR3 RAM 1600MHz Crucial Ballistix Sport £44.17
Hard Drive
1 x 1000GB SATA-III 7200rpm HGST Travelstar 7K1000 (HTS721010A9E630) £29.17
Optical Drive
1 x DVD-RW £0.00
WIFI Card
1 x Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 (with Bluetooth) £17.50
Keyboard
1 x Backlit Keyboard UK English £0.00
Warranty
1 x Standard Warranty : 24 Month Collect & Return (inc parts, labour, support, shipping) £0.00
Operating System
1 x No Operating System £0.00
Office Software
1 x Microsoft Office 365 30-day trial version (only when Windows 7 or 8 is ordered) £0.00
Power Cable
1 x UK Power Cable £0.00

TOTAL = £1,500

 

If you are looking to save on battery life...then you probably won't be gaming on battery power. If you are, then your going to see a significant loss in gaming performance. This Laptop was designed as a desktop replacement. I don't think there is any reason to give up the dual gpu setup because your not getting the 120Hz screen or 3d vision. I just got my laptop delivered while I was away on business. I will be back tonight and I am sure that I will crack open that Box and have it configured before the night is through. (although it is probably already dark in the UK). I put a 780M in mine, so if you can wait till tomorrow I can give you a "real life" assessment of it's performance and report back to you. (benchmarks can be interpreted to suit any mindset, I prefer "real life" usage stats.)

 

Purhaps he won't be gaming all the time, and wants longer battery life for those moments. I know I like to take my notebook to different places to get work done or browse the internet. Besides, I kind of like the idea I can leave my computer on, when not gaming, and not worry about my electric bill. But I am the type that put cfl light bulbs in long before they became fashionable, plus my outdoor lights are on motion sensors.

 

Hhaah I changed my mind yet again mate, I dont need this machine to be portable. I want maximum power when I need it, so dont want Optimus/Enduro since this laptop wont be moving from my desk anywhere.

Here is what will most likely be the best one for me:

XMG P723 17.3" Pro Gaming Notebook

Display
1 x 17.3" (43.9cm) Full-HD 1920x1080 Matte - Without XMG logo £0.00
Graphics Card
1 x 2x AMD Radeon HD 8970M 4096MB GDDR5 CrossfireX £262.50
Processor
1 x Intel Core i7-4800MQ Quad Core - 2.70 - 3.70GHz 6MB 47W £110.83
Thermal Compound
1 x Arctic Cooling MX-2 Thermal Compound £0.00
Memory
1 x 8GB (2x4096) SO-DIMM DDR3 RAM 1600MHz Crucial Ballistix Sport £44.17
Hard Drive
1 x 320GB SATA-II 5400rpm Seagate Momentus (ST320LM001) £0.00
Optical Drive
1 x DVD-RW £0.00
WIFI Card
1 x Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 (with Bluetooth) £17.50
Keyboard
1 x Backlit Keyboard UK English £0.00
Warranty
1 x Standard Warranty : 24 Month Collect & Return (inc parts, labour, support, shipping) £0.00
Operating System
1 x No Operating System £0.00
Office Software
1 x Microsoft Office 365 30-day trial version (only when Windows 7 or 8 is ordered) £0.00
Power Cable
1 x UK Power Cable £0.00

TOTAL = £1,545

Congrats on your lappy mate! Looking forward to your impressions, what config did you get?

 

guys im curious about this site

Clevo mirror

there we have the bios for all clevo models

These bioses are reliable?? I'm thinking about going for the latest bios for mine p375sm --- 11/11/2013 P375SM_New.zip

Can someone help me out?!?!

 

Are you wanting to flash it for a specific issue?

 

Hey guys i just received my 9380-s today (typing on it now). I got a few questions though.

1. Is it better to get video drivers from the nvidia website or sagers website? Sagers website says mine are outdated. Does it make a difference where i download them from?

2. Second is the CD's they gave me are all for windows 7. Are there any programs/drivers i need to install to get anything working that might be disabled or programs that arent installed from the get go. I had to install the fingerprint driver to get that working, so just curious if theres anything else.

So far im enjoying it only had it for about a hour so still playing with it. Downloading a few games now to see how the 780m does.

 

Just to get the fixes and new functions looking in the site they say that this will fix some issues with windows 8.1

But i don't wanna try my luck with it without knowing if someone already did the bios flash to this new version....

 

Congrats on a great purchase! Yeah, you can easily download drivers from Nvidia's website! You should also have drivers for Win7/Win8 OS. But they are just in case) Much better to download them from official clevo.tw website or directly from Sager, they should be newer than the one's on a cd

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hey Guys, i am looking at purchasing a 9380. i am still learning about Sager/clevo... looks to be a much better op
is the 4930MX worth upgrading to, or would i be better off staying with the 4900 ?.
i have heard that the only reason to go to the 4930 is for overclocking, but i also read here that it doesn't overclock much. (can anyone shed some light)
if it is fairly over clock-able can i get it completed with the build?
i am wondering if i would be better putting the savings into larger mSata drives.

 

Get the storage instead mate, that CPU isn't worth the money. 4900MQ is already too much lol

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I finally received my laptop after RMA And it's working great but there is only 2 things I find weird :

1) It seem I only have one temperature sensor for GPU1 not GPU2, is that a sign that I miss one sensor or it's unplugged ? I may have bad memory but I thought I have two temps reading before RMA.
2) I cant update my drivers from AMD site they all say driver up to date. Even after I uninstall the "AMD/Sager" driver the official or beta AMD don't detect the cards... Before RMA I could update the drivers without problems. Any advice on that would be appreciated.

Thanks

 

So??

Clevo mirror

These bioses are reliable?? I looked around a little but find out nothing yet...
I've downloaded latest bios for mine p375sm --- 11/11/2013 P375SM_New.zip. But the instructions inside the file are weird can someone help me out?!?!

I really don't wanna have a bricked notebook.

 

Why do you want to flash it if your laptop is working fine?

Remember the saying... If it ain't broke don't fix it.

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Code 18 for point #2, I tried installing the standard AMD drivers not the mobility ... duh I have the mobility 13.11 beta up and running now...

If you can answer about the temp sensors I would appreciate

Thanks

 

Can you try Speedfan and see if that shows the temps correctly?

That app never failed on me.


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Say, I have a question to ask regarding the Sager NP9390

Does it comes with 120hz Screen ?

And if not, when will it comes with one ?

 

Thanks indeed it worked with Speed fan. I managed to display it in Afterburner with a little help from my friend Google. Weird thing is you have to disable crossfire first, start game then the 2nd temp sensor shows in afterburner. I just love those small graffs it has

 

Nope
No idea

So far, P370SM3 should be it.

 

Just the 9380 at this point, I'm not sure why they are keeping it that way but maybe with a more niche 3d model they want to keep a broad visual appeal.

 

Yes, it does, check EUROCOM X7 (Clevo P375SM / Sager NP9390) with 120Hz; 17.3-inch (43.9cm) FHD 1920x1080; MATTE (Non-Glare) Wide Viewing Angle; eDP; LP173WF2 display as an option. I own such configuration, so, if you have any questions, i'm glad to answer.

 

They likely add in the cable and display themselves then.

 

Is there any advantage of a 120Hz display panel if you arent going to use 3 monitors, or bump up the resolution higher than 1080p??

 

Well 120hz displays will give you smoother motion.

 

D2,

Could you please share your Nvidia inspector screen? I got confused with your previous post about it.

Thank you.

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Okay mate, so its even worth spending money on if I wont use extreme resolution or 3d??

 

120hz isn't about the resolution. *note that this is for 2d mode* It has an increased refresh rate. So with 60hz, think of it as refreshing the screen 60 times every second where 120hz is double that. It will make whatever you are looking at much smoother (if your frame rate isn't low that is). So a lot of people who get the 120hz screen no doubt game and try to get their FPS to 60 so they can take advantage of the greater refresh rate. That will make everything run much smoother. They say your eyes can't even tell, but trust me... you can. Remember that if you use it in 3d mode, you drop your refresh rate to 60hz.

I'd recommend getting it, but it depends on your configuration and budget.

 

The nice thing though is due to no enduro or optimus you can overclock the stock display to around 90-100hz.

 

The problem with Haswell isn't that it doesn't overclock, Intel has allowed certain pre-determined adjustments for each CPU in the lineup.

The problem is that even at stock speeds Haswell throttles quite severely and increasing clock speeds just doesn't make any difference unless its a short benchmark.

I have tested the 4700, 4800, and 4900 with Intel XTU and they all throttle at stock speeds and voltages.

I have to undervolt just so I can run at STOCK speeds without throttling.

Have not tested the 4930, i am curious if it throttles as well.

 

Thanks guys!

So if my potential setup goes like this:

i7-4800MQ
2x AMD Radeon HD 8970M (CrossFireX)
8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport RAM

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I take it the 120Mhz would be worth it?

Just want the best components I can get, basically the ones that arent easy to upgrade later.

Also I wouldn't feel comfortable overclocking the display so I guess I should seriously consider going for the 120Mhz, even if its an extra £140?

 

No, you shouldn't. Unles you realy think it's worth it. It doesn't give you any adavantage at all.

 

120Hz panel doesn't have anything to do with more monitors or higher resolution. 120Hz is how fast it can update the display, or the displayed image. A normal panel updates at 60Hz. Which is 60 times a second. Don't confuse that with fps, as they are different but related. When they are not in sync then you can see things like tearing, or lag. The 120Hz panel reduces these effects.

Also the 120Hz panel offers 3D, which works well for some games. Not to mention movies, some youtube videos, some websites, etc.

 

There is also the issue that 120hz only works with nvidia cards

 

120hz works with both AMD and Nvidia just 3d doesn't work on AMD. That's what I've heard.

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As far as I know AMD should work with 120Hz panels. Are you sure Meaker? Do you have a source?

Any one with these models, how is the fan noise when just browsing the internet? I wonder if it is noisier since it doesn't have Optimus.

 

for anyone who owns the 9380-s is your 3D emitter light always on? ive noticed like 80% of the time when im playing a 3d game and exit the game it will stay on. But like 20% of the time it will go off as soon as i exit a game. Is it supposed to be on when your not doing any 3D stuff? Even if i turn 3D completely off in the nvidia control panel the light still stays on. The only way to get the emitter to turn off is if i reboot my computer.

 

Now I'm really confused lol. Luckily I got a week to sort this out before I put my order in next Monday

Btw, I would like to know about the fans too. 8970M idle temp is around 38-41C so I'm guessing the fans will still be quite noticeable, even when surfing the net without headphones or a loud TV in the background. With 2x of those cards I'm expecting the laptop to be very audible most of the time.

 

I dont find the laptop to be noisy at all for browsing. I often have tv in background but not too high and it's no big deal for me. Even while gaming I dont find it really noisy but that's my opinion.

 

Ok if that changed recently then that's good. Before the AMD cards did not support the different port used to output the 120hz. If a retailer lets you order them both together then it should work just fine.

 

Thats good to hear!

Thanks for that.

Well, this is the email I just received back from the MYsn guys:

" With 8970M cards there is no point in the having the 120hz screen. In actual fact we only offer the 120Hz screen with 2x GTX 780M since you need the extra graphical power to run games properly.

Regards"

So I guess there is no point me spending money on the 120hz screen at this point. Whew, kinda relieved coz I didin't really have cash to put towards it anyways lol

 

It's not like you have to buy it anyways. The way you put it it sounds like you realy need it.

 

Actually, I think they thought about 120Hz 3D, because 120Hz without 3D doesn't need extra graphical power, there is no differense in game FPS using 60Hz or 120Hz, except for 3D. So you can use AMD cards for 120Hz perfectly, like with 60Hz display.

 

The MYsn (not Meaker) answer is strange. They make it seem like the 120Hz screen gives you extra graphical power, which it doesn't. Maybe they meant to reverse it and say the two cards give you extra graphical power which the 120Hz can benefit from. Maybe they also were thinking about 3D which benefits from the 120Hz, since each eye only sees 60Hz. Keep in mind that the fps will depend on the card and the game, so some games could do 120fps even with a single card, but others won't, depending on settings.

I don't know about Sager, but I know other people have gotten 120Hz to work with their AMD laptops. I would check a couple retailers to verify it is offered. I say check a couple, since I have seen mistakes on the websites.

 

You can just clock the internal display like I was suggesting though

 

Not really needed mate, but I do play few of the older games which are going to reach over 120fps.

Diablo 3 is a good example, even though it's not that old.

Yeah, I'm merely wondering if I'm gonna see any real benefit from spending an extra £140 lol

Yeah I was gonna do that, but I just wonder if I really have that extra money to spend on something that isn't really gonna benefit me much on a constant basis.

Good idea mate!

Although I will need some help with that, as I don't really wanna burn the display out on my new 1.5k machine lol


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