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    *** Official Sager NP9380, NP9390 / Clevo P370SM, P370SM3, P375SM Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Jun 1, 2013.

  1. geko95gek

    geko95gek Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for the clarification mate. :)

    I'm not unhappy with the current Clevo boards, just wanted to know if there might have been an extra upgrade possibility.
     
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    Ah, it was Mythlogic. And it is a lookalike steelseries I guess. Here is a review http://www.anandtech.com/show/7250/mythlogic-pollux-1613-clevo-p157sm-review/2

    Chief among optional extras is that Mythlogic will install a different keyboard in the chassis (provided they have keyboards in stock, apparently), which addresses some of the complaints we’ve had with previous Clevo keyboards. In practice, the changes aren’t all that significant; the modified keyboard has chiclet style keys while the standard Clevo keyboard has beveled/ridged edges. You can get an idea of the difference by looking at images from our test notebook compared to the standard keyboard. The alternate keyboard is, as far as I can tell, identical to the MSI SteelSeries keyboards used in the GT60 and GT70 notebooks—though obviously they can’t use the SteelSeries branding—with the only real change being the Fn and Start keys have swapped positions. There’s also colored keyboard backlighting, and you can adjust the colors using a utility that you get by pressing Fn+[Keypad /]—and again, this is identical to the backlighting on the MSI GT70 and other modern Clevo designs.

    Note that since the keyboard is not the default Clevo design, some of the Fn key combinations are not what you see on the keys—so Fn+[Left Cursor] doesn’t reduce the volume; you’ll need to press FN+F5 for that instead. Mythlogic includes a reference sheet with all of the Clevo shortcuts, and as you spend time with the Pollux 1613 you’ll adapt—or you can just go with the standard Clevo keyboard. The feel of the MSI/alternate keyboard is very good, and it looks like the stock Clevo keyboards have finally fixed the 10-key and made it a standard layout (with a slightly narrower Numpad-0 key). Given the choice, I’d probably just stick with the stock Clevo keyboard now, but whichever way you got there are still aspects that aren’t necessarily ideal.
     
  3. Balgard

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    15 days after payment, but I live in Russia, that's why it took so long :hi2: you know...balalaika, vodka, bears :wub:
     
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    well I live in Jordan :) so I was thinking to buy EUROCOM X7 with almost same configuration as yours and need to ask about many thinks ( I'm a skeptical person :D ) so if you kindly
    1 -share us your experience in buying this beast
    2- I've a question about this model case quality and durability ? is it good ? does it feel like a cheap plastic case ?
    3- print screens for the Bios ver. and the LED model would be great.
    4- do u recommend EUROCOM to deal with or should I go for another re-seller ? ( considering they are the only corporation which provide 120Hz LED for Sager NP9390 model .

    sorry for my terrible English :D
     
  5. Meaker@Sager

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    Well I have held the chassis before, it feels quite solid, it wont take running over with a truck or anything but if you take care of it it wont fall apart either.
     
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    Privet tovarish, ya sam iz Belarusii :D


    The build is solid mate, but then again it really depends on who puts it together. Most don't complain about build quality.


    Sent from my baked potato
     
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    Well I've read about some buyers had bad experience dealing with EUROCOM corporation so what is your advice mates? should I go for Eurocom X7 ( because of the 120hz screen ) does it worth or not ?
    If not .... Which reseller is better ? as long as accepting international PayPal payments.
    Thanks in advance
     
  8. geko95gek

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    Well its totally up to what your options are really, there is a list of Clevo resellers/builders here that you can look at:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/652403-clevo-resellers-european-union-v1.html

    Personally I'd recommend going with MYsn and their XMG models, they are very highly regarded in terms of build and customer service quality. My own experience with them has been fantastic as well!

    The 120Hz screen is only worth it if you're getting a powerful enough GPU thats able to run your games at highest quality and in excess of 80FPS. Screen panel HZ can be overclocked on certain Clevo models as well so that reduces the need to buy a 120Hz screen even more.
     
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    Overclocking is always pot luck though, the 120hz screen is worth going for.
     
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    Couldn't find any reseller provide Clevo P375SM with 120hz screen on European Union -V1 list ,also checked on XMG website they don't sell Clevo P375SM model !!! kindly correct me if I'm wrong .
    and yes I'm gonna buy a laptop with a powerful GPU which will be Nvidia GT 780M so I think 120Hz screen would be the right choice .
     
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    I apologize if this has been answered but has anyone had success getting surround or eyefinity gaming with the NP9390 using a display port MST hub like the Club3d Sensevision MST Hub or the Matrox triplehead2go DP edition using the thunderbolt port? I'm so close to buying one from xotic but i want at least 3 1080p monitors to work
     
  12. ElbehairY

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    well Meaker I checked PowerNotebooks website and found out your prices are quite pretty good also have a good repetition and high rate of customer satisfaction but I don't know if you accept international paypal method or not ? ( I've already email your Co. asking for some info. and answers 2 days ago still no respond )

    and I'm pretty sure that you don't provide 120Hz screen for Clevo P375SM model which make me wonder why ???? !!! what's the big deal ???
     
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    Only the 370SM is offered with the 120hz screen. International paypal as donald said is not accepted due to the high risk of fraud.
     
  14. geko95gek

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    Ah I see... well like Meaker said above, only the P370SM is offered with a 120Hz screen.

    Another solution is that you could always just get a 120Hz monitor at a later stage and hook it up via the DisplayPort.
     
  15. Meaker@Sager

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    Yep and if that monitor is nvidia 3d vision capable then you are good for 3d too.
     
  16. 1nstance

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    How do I enable Bluetooth on this machine? I have Intel AC 7260 and when I go under Settings > Change PC Settings > Wireless there simply isn't any option avaible. I only get the message "No devices avaible."

    I have the latest drivers installed.
     
  17. david2kool

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    Are you using the stock windows 8 interface(Metro) or are you using a modified version with a start menu (Classic Shell Mod)?

    I ask because the procedure is different for both.
     
  18. 1nstance

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    Classic Shell.
     
  19. david2kool

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    Good then we can do this the easy way.

    go to Start>classic shell> classic start menu settings

    click on the Special Items Tab (make sure show all settings is checked)

    Then under "Network Connections" select "display as a menu"
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    Click OK, then go to the start menu again.

    Mouse over to Network Connections and you will see Bluetooth Connections. Click on it.

    New window will open up and in the upper left corner next to the File Menu you will see "Add a Device". Click it.

    Then go through the prompts.

    Then if you need to add any other Bluetooth stuff ever again, it is right there in the start menu using the same procedure.

    I couldn't get mine to work with the stock windows interface either. But it works great this way. Never had a problem since. Good Luck.
     
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  20. geko95gek

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    Thanks for this mate.

    I still have to test out the bluetooth on my machine as well.
     
  21. 1nstance

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    The "Special Items' tab isn't there. Set to "Show all settings" and using Classic Shell 4.0.2
     
  22. david2kool

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    That's weird. We are both using the same interface it should be the same. Maybe there is an update that you need to install.

    Well I guess we could do it the old fashion way.

    Go to "Control Panel\Hardware and Sound\Devices and Printers" and click on "Add device" and follow prompts. Should work the same, just more clicking. BTW- if you do it this way, make sure that you have whatever Bluetooth item that you are using, ready to pair before you click on Add a Device. Good Luck.
     
  23. david2kool

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    Your Welcome.
    I couldn't wait as long as you to connect Bluetooth. My Headphones, mouse, keyboard and gamepad are all Bluetooth. That was one of the first things I setup. When I found out that it wasn't working as it should with Windows 8.1, I went into full on troubleshooting mode. :eek:
     
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    Lol looking the posts.... Yeah, classic shell still is the best against this "metrocrap"
     
  25. david2kool

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    I have to tell you, though. It is real nice to have metro on my Windows Tablet . But, for my Laptop and Desktop...It's REALLY annoying. I turn all that Metro crap off when I am on my laptop. I sure am thankful for the developers of Classic Shell. They have made my life infinitely easier. :thumbsup:
     
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    I got to paid to tweak a system for someone (a 9380), just thought I would pass along a few thoughts.

    The thermal pads on the CPU and primary gpu can use some tweaking, the paste job on the CPU is especially important (not too much or too little).

    This particular 4930MX topped out at 3.8ghz with the fans maxed under prime style loading, 3.9 and 4.0 were possible for lighter loads.
     
  27. geko95gek

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    Ah I dont have any of that lol

    I use a laptop for what it is, a complete system. No need for any external stuff... well except a razer deathadder of course :p


    I use Start8, its also pretty good!
     
  28. david2kool

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    I agree with Meaker completely. That was one of the first things I did when I got my system. Re-paste if you want to get better cooling and performance out of your system. I am consistently getting 3.6-3.7 out of a 4700 with multi-core, multi-thread profiles.
     
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    I always thought Start8 was a paid app?
     
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    The 4700MQ max turbo frequency is 3.6ghz single core and 3.4ghz quad, are you tweaking the base clock too? I was testing with prime and loading all 4 cores too.
     
  31. geko95gek

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    It is mate, very good one though. :)

    I didin't do a repaste on my MYsn built machine and I'm getting CPU around 60C under load and GPU @ around 80C. I'm pretty sure thats within the normal limits.

    They've must have done a decent job on the thermal pasting.
     
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    figure out a very strange problem on my machine: it randomly got bootup>> about 10~20 second black screen>>reboot........i thought it was my xtu downclock setting caused it
    but not :mad:

    1.power on with battery only, 100% nothing wrong
    2.if plugged in(with or without battery), power on, nothing wrong
    3.if plugged in(with or without battery), wipe the keyboard with cleaning cloth(therefore pressed a lot of keys), power on, 10~20 second black screen>>reboot

    seems like the keyboard start receive signal when plugged in!? causing black screen reboot!?!? :eek:
     
  33. geko95gek

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    OC'd the refresh rate of my Chi Mei 173hge panel to 85Hz!! :thumbsup:

    Haven't tried going further than that.
     
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    Good is 90-100hz, excellent is 110-120hz.
     
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    So you suggest I try to go higher?


    Sent from my baked potato
     
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    try making it 100 and buy yourself nvidia 3d vision (first version)
     
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    You would need an emitter for the glasses.
     
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    85Hz sounds good to me. Cuts down on eye strain. Good job.
     
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    Because LCDs present a persistant image it wont really make much of a difference to eye strain
     
  40. geko95gek

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    Kept OC'ing and actually got to 95hz! That's pretty epic. :)

    At 100hz the screen goes black.

    Been playing Wolfenstein and so far so smooth. :D

    Sent from my baked potato
     
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    90Hz can be good level since its 150% of 60hz, enjoy the extra smoothness :)
     
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    Can you explain this further? Are you saying the 120hz won't affect eye strain on laptop screens but will do so on normal monitors?
     
  43. 1nstance

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    Since about 2 weeks I have been running 110hz 24/7.
     
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    Define normal monitors, it's not helped eye strain since CRTs.
     
  45. geko95gek

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    Cool thanks, I've set it to 90hz. :)

    Definitely looks smoother, then again could be placebo.


    Sent from my baked potato
     
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    No, it is smoother, if something resets the setting I can tell even on the desktop.
     
  47. geko95gek

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    I definitely notice the smoothness as well mate, even with games running under 60fps it still looks smoother than before.

    Is there any danger or detriment at all with running OC?
     
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    The best I can offer you is I have yet to hear any problems arising from LCD overclocking or experience them myself. Overclocking is of course always done at your own risk.
     
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    I'll take it mate, 90hz definitely looks and feels better than 60hz.


    Sent from my baked potato
     
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    Since your LCD was behaving normally at 95hz then since you backed off a bit you should not have any issues either so enjoy :) It should stick even with a driver update.
     
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