*** Official Sager NP9877 / Clevo P870TM-G Owner's Lounge! - Phoenix 4 ***

So I finally pulled the trigger.
A few hours ago I began the waiting period in order to ascend to the Dreadnought Class laptop realm. The EVOC P870TM1 will soon be mine.

Quick back-brief: I was once running with the Alienware pack back in the day and still own a few, PGA days were great. I grew up, joined Clevo. My first purchase, however, was a mis-step. I started with the P650HS - which is great by the way but it just doesn't do the job. So now I am finally riding the bull.

Quick thanks to @ Donald@HIDevolution for the safety tips and recommendations. As always, a pleasure doing business.

I am excited to see this Warfighter in action. So far I only hear camp fire stories and murmurings of mad-men that have been exposed to its brutal power. Lets hope she lives up to to the legend.

Shout out to @ Phoenix , your NVME you sold me is still rocking like a champ. I intend to migrate her over to her new chassis.

I lurk a lot here but just wanted to thank all of those that share and contribute knowledge, It is a real gift.

SPECS:
8700k Delided, blahse blah.
Twin 1080 SLI with Therm-GRIZ and Fuji-baby as well as Vapor chamber block
4k res screen cus im that asshole.
Display Cal
Intel 9260
2x 950 pro NVME, 2TB micron 1100 SSD with a 1TB classic spinner drive.
No mem - will be 32gb of RIPJAWS 2666
780 Watt Nuclear power brick
And rush order, because I am an impatient New Yorker.

Im not allowed to sell yet, as my posts are not at the 100 required, but if you know anyone who is interested in a 650 listed in my sig with another year of warranty, let me know.

Rodger, out.

 

It becomes a lottery and down to their binning process.

 

I recently purchased a P870TM1 from Hidevolution (still in the queue). I'm curious what kind/type of SLI bridge does it use?

This is my first time going the SLI route.

From this chart:


what is it equivalent to? Maybe @Meaker@Sager or @Donald@HIDevolution can answer this

 

This is a great question, what would the bandwidth qualify as.

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High bandwidth though this has always been true for mobile as it's always been a bit different.

 

Cool! I guess this means it supports 5K. Do you have a 5K monitor to test?

 

Lol no, but benchmarks have shown the tiny performance gain for being HB in the past compared to desktops.

 

Quick question,

I occasionally see people list their 1080s as "GTX 1080N".
What does this N identifier signify? Also, in regards to VBIOS for the1080s, is this something that must be flashed onto the card, or is this something that comes with the "Prema package".

Last question, what is the maximum write and read speeds i can achieve with a raid zero array of 950 pros. I read, or at least I think I did, that 3500 is the max. any truth to this?

 

N basically means "notebook" or "Notebook version."

 

IIRC the 'N' designation isn't an official one created by Nvidia but one by the consumer base to help denote between laptop and desktop versions.

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Er...those are 3 quick questions

Some forum members put the N just to distinguish between desktop and laptop versions...N being laptop. It is not part of the official NVIDIA name.

Your vBIOS will already be flashed, it is not part of the Custom Prema BIOS.

PCIe 3.0 x4 has a maximum speed of 1,000MB/s per lane, so 4x lanes = 4,000MB/s. However you will never achieve maximum due to shall we call it 'overhead', so you can expect around 3,700MB/s as achievable. Therefore the Sequential Read Speed won't be improved by enough to notice in RAID 0 but the Sequential Write Speed will be around 80% of double.

 

I don't even think there's a custom vbios for the pascal cards at all.

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That is correct. The vBIOS is locked by NVIDIA, and I do not believe anyone has been able to create a custom vBIOS as a result.

 

You can definitely modify it but the way to go about it is so long winded.

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Looking at P870TM1 owners signature here - I don't see anyone owning Kingston HyperX Impact DDR4 2666Mhz. 4x 16GB of this RAM should work on P870TM1 right?

Referring to this: http://a.co/9rIg9PL

 

Awsome.

I would be blatantly lying if I said this is the last question, so ill ask another.

@Donald@HIDevolution, If, in the future, I re-pasted the GPU interface with Liquid metal, would that void any warranty. I know that you guys use Gelid on the GPU interface.

 

We no longer use Gelid GC Extreme on the GPU, we only use Grizzly Conductonaut.

You will not have to repaste the Grizzly Conductonaut during the warranty period, if ever.

If you were to delid your CPU to repaste, yes, that would void your warranty instantly.

 

Awesome, Thanks Donald.

I only ask because my order says Gelid. I know that you have since changed this.

 

New protocol:
Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Thermal Interface between the Intel CPU Die and the Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS), and Gelid GC Extreme between the IHS and the heat sink + Grizzly Conductonaut between the GPU and its heat sink. Choose Fujipoly Extreme thermal pads for additional cooling.

 

It should work yes.

 

If it's locked by nvidia, how do the board partners create a overclock in their bios and increase the power limits?

 

Because they can get a signed copy from Nvidia.

 

Fair enough, but there must be a way to hack it. We have so many awesome people here!

 

You can with a manual programmer clipped on the chip.

 

They pay the Green Goblin his troll tax and then the Goblin sends them the HULK certificate.
Don't get me started on the G-sync bios cookie though.

@Mr. Fox @Papusan

 

You mean, with a Skypro programmer, 1.8v adapter, Pomona 5250 clip, male to female jumper cables, and THIS?
(unfortunately, newer Clevo 1070's are not supported by the Editor and Coolane has been gone for months.....anyone tried to check up on him?)

 

I have HyperX Impact DDR4-2400 overclocked to 3000 in Machete (P870DM-G).

 

I think you may be mixing up BIOS with vBIOS (for GPU). The Custom Prema BIOS does not include the vBIOS.

 

what is HIDevolution typical order status sequence. Mine went from "ordering parts" to "pre-production", though the description is the same on both status

 

It goes from " being forged in the mines of Moriah" to " being dropped from orbit to customer's house"..... To be honest I'm interested as well.

I'm in the same boat as you partner



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You find their order statuses here: http://www.hidevolution.com/stages

Mine should be in production next week

 

i wonder if you can flash the vbios from a DM3 1080 to a TM1 1080?

 

Yes you can and...it'll stop booting. LOL
Best is to always use the exact firmware that was designed for your hardware revision and model and not cross-flash stuff. Even if things seem to work for a while...
Also the latest isn't always the greatest.

 

Thanks for the heads up. Still looking to grab this model and TDP mod the 1080 though.

 

Thanks!

As a suggestion to HIDevolution, it would be nice to get a complete track of your order status, something like this:

Processing > Pending Pre-Order > Parts/Product on Order > Pre-Production > In Production > Awaiting Shipment > Complete

So you know exactly where you are.

 

You do get that, both in your dashboard, and we send an email every time it changes.

 

I think what he's suggesting is a more detailed system. From my experience it's not really 110% clear.

 

Yeah the emails is a nice way to inform the customer. But in my case the emails go to the bottom quickly. A simple bar showing the progress on the production of the laptop would be more powerful IMO.

 

Quick question for Premabios owners on P870TM1 - can you control the keyboard/top cover lighting in the bios? Like turning ON/OFF the light.

I don't expect being able to select light color (but what would be a plus). I read somewhere in this thread that with premabios the keyboard backlight is default to white. Does this also apply to the top cover?

@Donald@HIDevolution - maybe you can answer this since my laptop is purchased from HIDevolution

 

I believe it does apply to the top cover. The defaults are embedded into the EC and can't be changed via the BIOS.

 

Has anyone seen this before? Its a water cooled block for the 870TM.

I'm wandering if I install this, would it void my warranty?

May interest: @Prema @Mr. Fox @Mobius 1 @Phoenix @Donald@HIDevolution

These sell for about 167$. when water cooled the temps are low..... really low like 55C

 

If we know anyone who can source these, we should get a group buy going on. These could be really fun. They fit older 870s as well.

 

@FastMover There is any reviews, anyone bought this before ?


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Not yet, but I work with a lot of main landers (PRC types) who know the ins and outs of the site its posted on so I will see if I can source one. Few hundred bucks is nothing to test something like this out.

They also make these hybrid heatsinks for alienware and other Clevos

 

I'd be scare to death on using a custom cooling system for a $4.000+ machine. Do you really think the stock cooling system is not that good? At stock speeds at least

 

What is PRC? It will be interesting to see


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Yes I will scare too and stock cooling work perfectly if you do custom job.


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As far as temps, I'm not sure, I haven't received the system yet. I am always in search of the best. I just like modding things, big or small.

Peoples republic of China

 

Yes, these have already been posted here.

Yes, this would definitely instantly void your warranty. There has not been enough testing, or any testing, by either Clevo or HIDevolution to be able to warrant a machine once this was installed.

It is possible that we could offer it sometime down the road after we have sufficient confidence with it, but even then, we could only warrant the machine if we installed it.

 

Well there you have it. Looks like I'll have to throw it on the Alienware )