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No, Clevo are the suppliers of Clevo chassis to resellers such as all those you mention but Clevo do not sell single units. The closest you can get is buying a barebones unit from a reseller which very few will do

 

Is it ? How do I enable it. nbr confuses me sometimes when it is usually never the case with other sites .

 

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That and the resellers get bulk pricing to sell at reasonable rates to end users, you will find it difficult to come under them and you loose out on the warranty.

 

Eurocom is developing high performance laptops for over 35 years and works directly with R&D Teams at Clevo and MSI to deliver the world's most powerful laptops. It has their own team of engineers too to make them even better. Eurocom designs it's own products too such as 780W AC adapter for P870xx models or standard MXM 3.0b size GTX 1070 card to upgrade old Clevo laptops.

 

Thanks, Enabled now !

 

I can't say we have never bought Clevo chassis from Eurocom, because on rare occasions during shortages, we have.

However, when looking for your next laptop, consider whether it comes with the Custom @Prema BIOS, consider ease of getting tech support and warranty services, and of course consider pricing.

I would also highly recommend talking to the vendors you are considering before making your final decision.

 

I found out interesting the information you posted about the 780W power brick. Too bad it was deleted. Though I read somewhere that the wattage shown on the built-in LCD pannel wasn't accurate. Is that true?

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Have a look in the dedicated thread for the product
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...w-notebook-ac-adapter-clevo-msi-ready.801145/

 

Most in built measuring is, even on the super high end desktop power supplies.

 

Woohoo we finally got power back !!! Damn you hurricane Florence!!!!!

 

Well done surviving the storm

 

Here are some teardown guides for the P870TM for anyone that wants them.

 

Good stuff though on my system the KB is ejected from a hole which is in another position. The ejection hole is somehow under the CPU heatsink, so you need to remove the CPU heatsink or use a pretty thin screwdriver in 30°

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You can just about get away using a small screwdriver in the screw hole but you need to be careful with the force used.

 

the danger zone!

 

I've had more success using duct tape to create a pull tab at the top-right of the keyboard where the magnet is. It's too easy to damage the keyboard if poking it through the screw hole from below.

 

Fortunately you don't need to get under there often.

 

Anyword on a possible release for the new Rtx cards for our lappys?

 

No news on any future parts.

 

I don't plan to upgrade right away but i'm still waiting to see the 9900Ks. A few months back I read online they were being released Oct.1st, then I read they won't be released until 2019. I thought everything written on-line was supposed to be true. I guess not, I'm shocked!

 

The 9900k is what I'll probably jump to first. I'm not seeing the 2080 being worth the premium price over the 1080s I already have. Now if we were to get a 2080 Ti in a MXM I'd be all over that. But +- 10fps and seeing some people having high temp issues with the 2080s kind of is deterring me from that now lol.

 

In some tests I have seen, 2080 is actually the same or a tad slower than 1080. In other things it is much faster. But, overall it offers relatively poor value to 1080 GPU owners. Too much money for such a modest upgrade.

 

I was pumped for the new 2080s, I thought the CAD program I use (Chief Architect) would take advantage of the GPUs Ray Tracing, (RT is currently CPU bound) but at the moment there's no plans to change that.

 

This generation is about a change in feature set over rasterisation support.

 

Let's hope the "innovation" doesn't come at the expense of screwing things up for previous generation products just so NVIDIA can make more money. If it's an added layer that compliments what we already have with zero adverse side effects, that's wonderful. Change implemented for the sake of change is never any good. It should always be done in a way that is seamless, painless and graceful. Hopefully, that's the way it plays out.

If they do it right it will be just like how Vulkan was rolled out. If you were not paying attention, you would never know because nothing got broken, screwed up or crippled in the process.

 

Most of the core is still rasterisation based, I doubt current products will become obsolete faster.

 

Can anyone here recommend me a briefcase or shoulder bag for the P870TM1

 

I use EVERKI Advance Breifcase 17.3, but I shoulda gone 18.4. Works well for single arm curls too although watch your posture coz you can put your back out with that kind of weight.

 

Well I collected some info for myself when I have to buy a bag but it might help you so posting it below. I was looking for the biggest bag I could get that can also hold a 18 inch laptop. The heights of the bags are mentioned below but the volume and price is. All data from amazon. Hope it helps. My choice would be freebiz 21 coz of highest capacity for the price

Bag -------------- volume in cubic inches --------- [price]

Freebiz 21 3630 [ 59.99 ]
Freebiz laptop 3562.724 [ 51.59 ]
Kalidi 3228.83 [55.99]
Outjoy formal 2150.064 [54.99]
Swissgear 19 2247.75
Outjoy informal 2234.4 [ 47.99 ]
sosoon 17 2488.5 [29.00]
amazon basics 1995
cross gear 2968.79 [46.90]
crossgear 2 2125.63 [49.00]
Samsonite st6 2040
Everki titan 18.4 2651.85 [165.70]

 

Everki titan 18.4


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Yeah my p370 had a titan. It ain’t a breifcase tho. Lotsa room, but it’s huge on ya back. I’m 6’4” and it still made me feel like I was 12 again.

 

Titan will hold the machine, chargers plus a weekend of stuff.

 

As far as volumes go Everki titan 18.4 has a total volumen 2651 cubic inches and the price of 165.70. The freebiz 21 has a total volume of 3630 cubic inches and a price point of 60 dollars. Now of course build quality would need me to have both and I have neither but I saw this video for freebiz 21 :

 

Funny, I had same dilemma, and settled on the Freebiz 21 (aka 18.4 in their Amazon description). Didn't realize it had this video! I would say it looks quite sturdy thus far. I got it because it's a lot deeper than the Alienware bag. Doesn't look as nice though of course. BUT, doesn't seem cheaply made either, just "basic". I kind of wanted that too though, possible theft deterrent (probably not really). Haven't tested it yet but don't see why it wouldn't last. I liked that it has a built in rain flap also. Power cable system is interesting if you're into that. I wanted the biggest I could get to hold audio gear like a large interface, microphone, preamp - I don't think it will carry all that (pre-amp is pretty big), but it will do the interface (which is a 1/3 rack width, double rack height, piece of gear), second laptop, power bricks. Anyway, for $60, I figured, can't go wrong, can always use a large backpack for some use or other.

Iverki looks nicer in pictures but cheapest I have see it is $160, I don't see what could REALLY make it worth that much more.

FreeBiz has that crazy cable for its grab handle too. If it is as tough as it looks, that is worth it for that reason alone!

If I was going to a high end client and wanted it to look chic, I'd get either a messenger or rolling bag (backpack will crease dress shirt/suit), or at least a form-fitting thin backpack JUST for the laptop and power brick and not much bigger. Would probably be using a thin laptop though again too for that purpose unless I really needed the graphics power or to show something that required such a powerful machine to present.

 

The Everki is built VERY well, but it is at a huge premium I agree.

 

Yeah I do admit it looks nice in photos. Personally I would spend up to $120 on it (grudgingly). I kind of wish the FreeBiz cost $20 more and had a nicer material for its shell, but it's a very good value so far. At least I don't feel like I need to return it, and it will always be useful for something. If I really used the backpack every day, maybe I would have gone for the Everki, who knows. I use it very rarely currently so it didn't make sense to splurge.

 

I use the Everki Titan as well. It is way too expensive for what it is. You WILL NOT want to be putting your crazy expensive p870tm1 into this bag without a buttload of extra padding. The laptop compartment leaves the laptop with absolutely no padding on any of the corners. If you put the bag down with the laptop in it the wrong way you will break the screen or crack the laptop case quite easily. Might wanna look elsewhere. Wish I would have.

 

Wow, that is surprising. Even my FreeBiz does an admirable job of padding the bottom of the notebook compartment. (and they store the rolled-up rain hood on the very bottom too below it so it's a bit more of a shock absorber)

I almost always use a sleeve anyway even inside the backpack, but I am guessing there aren't any sleeves that will fit the 870. (well, I guess someone out there makes them, but that's more of a briefcase than a sleeve at that point, haha)

 

The bottom is padded, it's just the top which is not. You would need to drop the bag upside down for that to be an issue.

 

i'll try this freebiz 21 for my xps m2010 and hdx 9000

 

This is a design decision although it can be considered questionable, although not entirely stupid.
The padding compartment has gaps in the corners to accommodate large oversized desktop replacements without having the corners of the laptop rip the padding. That's basically the reason for it.
That isn't the problem. What should have been considered is have padding in the corners OUTSIDE of the compartment to make up for gap in the compartment.

Have you actually reached out to Everki and asked them about updating that in a revision?
I see a lot of people complaining about things but I never see anyone saying they reached out to Everki over it.

That being said, using a sleeve like an 18" Slappa (if you can find one), or just making some padding also works.

*Edit*
Not sure if you guys are still here but I just called Everki on the phone and filed a support ticket with the recommendation of adding padding to the outside of the padding compartment to help compensate for the gaps in the corners. The phone person felt it was a good idea.

 

I hadn't heard of Slappa - I see the one you mean here, I think (they might have others in 18" size too):
http://www.slappa.com/ptac-stealth-laptop-sleeve.html

I don't see handles but the one thumbnail looks like it has a strap attached.

I don't know what brand I have but I really like the sleeve I have for my 14" Lenovo - it has side entry, so there's only one side with the zipper, and the handle is thus inline with the top, no need to do the split handle (and the handle slides into the shell so it doesn't protrude if you want it cleaner to put into another bag).

I am surprised for their price Everki doesn't have some sort of customizable padding system where you could velcro different pieces or rotate them to get different thickness, maybe have the corners removable or adjustable. A lot of audio gear cases do something like that if they're general purpose (i.e., not cut out to fit exactly a specific unit). Same with camera bags, for the dividers anyway.

 

actually this is the one that has an 18.4" configuration.

http://www.slappa.com/ptac-matrix-laptop-sleeve.html?sc=37&category=4

And yes it comes with the carrying strap (if you buy it from them, but you should ask them first).
some of the ones on Amazon from strange sellers may not include it.

 

Can you post the pictures area padding required ?


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Huh?
No pictures required. Just put padding by the fabric BEHIND the laptop compartment padding, where the cracks are in the padding corners. Hell you could pad the entire bottom up to the sides too for good measure.

 

SO weird - I was definitely looking at the one you linked, because I saw the 18" in the dropdown. Not sure how the link got copied to the smaller size! But yeah that's the one.

Also, I was checking my FreeBiz 21 again to be sure - actually, the padding at the bottom is ONLY in the corners! So it's sort of the opposite. Also while the rain cover is on the bottom, it's centered under the front compartment, so depending on how the bag is loaded, it might not add much shock absorption. If I was carrying a laptop naked in the bag, I'd probably add a strip of high density foam at the bottom (like what they use in Pelican cases). Although to be honest, as long as the laptop is wide enough, the edges where they place it should be enough (unless you drop it on uneven ground or on a curb and the impact is only to the middle section).

Anyway this is why I always feel more comfortable using a sleeve. Also that way, if I want to get something out of my bag in a public area, I don't have to show exactly what I have in the bag, either.

 

Most people wont even know what they are looking at with this machine, they struggle to comprehend it lol.

 

what do u mean?