*** Official Sager NP9877 / Clevo P870TM-G Owner's Lounge! - Phoenix 4 ***

Clevo says it is safe up to around +/- 100C ...we say very low 90s is still Ok, but we don't want to see it go over that.

The bottom line is, you can control your temps with Undervolting, and reducing your Clockspeed. That is why we say, for good temps with the Intel® Core™ i9-9900K, depending on the quality of the chip, you will need to stay around 4.4~4.5GHz locked on all 8 Cores and 16 Threads, to stay in the 80s.

 

Two accounts? I only have this one.

 

Who's the second lucky Donald?

 

I was being fecisious lol. I replied to you, and ole dude responded .

 

here's a lapped 9900K and block in a watercooled mini itx dropping from thermal throttle within 10 seconds of cinebench (~5:00), to 80C max (~9:00)

Something else to consider. Bye bye warranty of course though

 

No way I'll buy a 9900k for a laptop. Not even for my home desktop.

Ryzen "3" is where I will go for my desktop.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

 

That's part of what I'm looking at with the 9900k's , I don't think lapping will fix part of what's wrong with these cpus lol. A redesign of the IHS , and possibly a proper analysis of Intel's "Solder" . I'm hoping to have a few milled/modded/custom IHS's delivered before the weekend. But these are not laptop related tests I'm doing. If I end up with one for a laptop test, you can damn sure bet I'll try it bare die too LOL. Just to see if it will work out as good as the 8700k did in Tm1 bare die form.

 

The mount was also bad which is worth considering. He changed more than one variable at once.

 

Has anyone tried
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07K442WXV?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_title

Yet??
From what I'm seeing on my laptop- good bye gelid gc extreme for me.

 

Yeah but still hit almost 80c on water.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

 

"Better than Liquid metal"....

I'm going to email Thermalright about this.
Companies shouldnt be posting their misleading propoganda ads about this (this isn't being sold by Thermalright, but by a third party).

it should say SAFER than liquid metal.

LM is anywhere between 28 W/MK to 73 W/MK depending on indium content.

 

At 5Ghz all cores and 1.2V, yeah that's going to be hot.

 

I agree with the above. Biggggggg difference between 13.6~ w/mk vs 28-73 like you said. It spread alot easier than gelid , and cleans up alot better than kryonaut. Haven't had time look into the temps much, but the Gpu @ 1440p-120hz Warframe maxed and GPU particles set to ludicrous- 2 hours in sits at 60-61 max- CPU across all cores @ 4.8 GHz with a -122 offset 2 hours in sits at Max 58-60 on all cores but 1 and core 3 hits a peak of 62~ (it's the most stressed core utilization wise in warframe on my lappy) I am also using a different fan control software with a curve to allow a bit more air flow on the bottom end of temps to keep some of the heatsoak out.

This is my **opinion** on the tm8 - It's damn sure no LM in any sense or remotely close to it, but it's cheaper and ease of use along with a 1-3~ temp diff than gelid puts it on my stock list as of now. I'll give it another week of some testing and remove it and repaste to see if for sure how the clean up process is. And to verify If any degradation or fluke-'s happen within this week.

I would also like to note that given my CPU mount difference, and GPU mount difference- the X from corner to corner on Both Gpus and the CPU performed a better overall spread given it's viscosity over the Pea-rice grain method. I got 3 tubes. And used one completely just testing different mounting methods vs the application of the TIM.

 

Use it at least 1 month. Try to run hot / cold cycles. And allow higher temp than 60 / 65C.

 

Will do !!

 

for temps,from schenker review:
for gaming it's on ~70-78'C at most :
https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_processed_/2/5/csm_witcher3_0671bfdb6d.jpg
for stress test, it goes above 90' C degrees :
https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_processed_/1/4/csm_stresstest_5d541cfd3c.jpg
taken from :
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schen...D-Clevo-P775TM1-G-Laptop-Review.350636.0.html
note on above photos:
1- it's with highest GPU(gtx1080),so higher temps were recorded
2-it was undervolted but no repaste+fuji/etc
3-gaming was on 3.6ghz cpu
----------------------
on another not,this is from a buyer in china, from clevo center with 9700K if 9900K is too much for you(intel will release some new model in 2019,so better get 9th gen laptop to ensure you have the bios update needed for 9th gen upgrade possibility):
https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i4/0/O1CN01nCh9qs2K3xtJ1S8OW_!!0-rate.jpg

 

also there is review for tornado f5w(msi 16L3 {GT63VR}) review with 9900K + Quadro p5200 in following link:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schen...-Clevo-P775TM1-G-Laptop-Review.350636.0.html#

 

for better cooling,you may buy&use 2 vacuum coolers to bring temps by 4-10'C

 

What did you mean by this ? Is the p870TM1 currently available 9th gen or not ? I thought it was !

 

You can spec in the 9th gen on our configurator.

 

I don't see the p870TM on sager's official site. Where is it ? Could you link me to it ?

 

Anyone had issue with area near left control/FN/shift key getting warm without special reason? I can't find what could heat up there (I dont think it's processor- only 44C nor battery - flexi full charged). Any idea?

 

Ah, yes, this was more for the single card machines. The 9877 is not listed for now.

 

There is only ram sticks right below that part. And not sure if you have your sticks there. PCH chips is nearby right under the keyboard/palmrest. Check PCH temp in Hwinfo64. Or just remove the screws on back cover beforehand. Open up once you feel higher than normal temp and take a look. Hold your hand right over this part but don’t touch anything.

 

Got an email back from Thermalright.

Hi Falkentyne,


Thank you very much.

I will find out who’s this reseller.

They use our photo but they don’t use our product descriptions.

That’s funny =P


Thanks again! Falkentyne.






Sincerely


Varick



THERMALRIGHT Facebook

www.facebook.com/ThermalrightOfficial

-----------------

Someone's in trouble

 

Whoops, mystery paste is usually not on the good side though.

 

Hmm
Strange as heck. I'm rummiging through everything trying to find the package it came in. It was definitely Thermalright . Come to think of it. It was packaged alot like the Gelid. Blister pack like with a spreader. I dunno but this mystery TIM is the business though LOL

 

I think the product image is a real one, just the description is not right.

 

That's what I'm thinking too

 

Whether I then trust the content is genuine still at that point though..

 

https://www.cjscope.com.tw/cht/product_detail.php?serial=313
Still says Z370. Now is that real or fake....

 

I think it's real. There are some people using Z370 for i9-9900K. Idk why Clevo wouldn't do Z390 though.

Those 2070 and 2080 boost clocks aren't bad. If these can be SLL'd in the P870TM1 successor it would be a really good set-up (assuming it can be cooled).

 

What?

 

Is that real?

 

I was calling BS on it. The RTX 2080 and GTX 1080 Ti are similar in performance.

 

http://image.baidu.com/search/index?tn=baiduimage&ps=1&ct=201326592&lm=-1&cl=2&nc=1&ie=utf-8&word=rtx 2080 gtx 1080 ti OC



tomb raider - shadow - 1080P & 4K Gaming + CPU 8700K + ssd EVO 960 +3200mhz ram

more detailed review:
http://www.elecfans.com/d/797179.html

 

LOL didn’t see this. Must be one heck of an OC.

 

Yikes...that is a terrible comparison. The two high dogs they are pushing OC'd and the rest not???

Also, note the chart starts at 80%, only to make the marginal difference look much larger than had they displayed from 0%

 

Hard to find decent charts for stock 3dm11gpu because UL's website sucks

1070ti ~27k (100%)
1080 ~29k (107)
1080ti ~37k (137)
2070 ~32k (118)
2080 ~40k (148)

If they wanted to cherry pick bench results to make RTX look good why not just use stock timespy graphics
1070ti ~6.5k (100)
1080 ~7k (108)
1080ti ~9.5k (146)
2070 ~9.5k (146)
2080 ~11k (170)

 

I would be very careful looking at performance charts and even temperature results moving forward.
BIOS have been including options to "Fine-Tune" for software like Furmark, Prime, AIDA, 3DMark 06, 3DMark 11, Unigine... and even combos of software.
It will greatly depend on the reseller ethics from now own, i never touched those myself and i´m not even sure what exactly they do. Some resellers even have their names there in the options, probably because they request special options.

 

Multiple suites of real software from multiple sources is the best way to get the picture of performance.

 

Hello everyone,
While waiting for the p870TM to show up with 9900k I wanted to be ready with the other necessary preparations so I can quickly get down to business once it gets to me. In this regard can someone esp P870TM owners give me some advice on the following.

• What are the main applications to run for this laptop to get an idea of its performance? I am not a very enthusiastic overclocker as some of you are but I do want to monitor the system for a week or so with some load and get temp readings to get a feel of what the beast can do. With that aim please share some advice or point me if someone already collected it somewhere.
• I believe a member posted that he had some tricks and tips for removing windows 8/10 bloatware to make it run smooth and without the hidden spying software. Would be of great help if someone can tell me who it was so I could get in touch.
  
• If there was like a 10 things to do when you get a new p870tm , it would be great to read that !
  
  Any other advice is appreciated.

 

For the Wingoofs no bloatware Thread, here we go:

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_tid=810557&share_fid=33462&share_type=t

Gesendet von meinem ONEPLUS A5010 mit Tapatalk

 

For benchmarks follow Mr. Fox's and Johnksss's thread esp. for enthusiasts overclocking
For no bloatware ISO from Ultra Male (formerly Phoenix)
And finally Win 10 Trick or treat edition aka Tweaks and Fixes to spice up your holiday season.

 

A buggy OS. He should rather use @Ultra Male's Bloatfree OS. At least this works. @Vasudev see I tagged him

 

I don't tag Ultra Male because he gets pissed off when he's working out!

 

Thanks for those details everyone!

Question about the form factor for GPU ( GTX 1080). Is it the same for P870TM vs P775TM ? Are they interchangeable? So in the future if some GPU comes out for 775 can it also be used for 870 and vice versa for the current chassis of course ?

 

Yes, they’re the same.

 

Same power connector too.

 

The wait is on !

Also wanted to find out if anyone else is waiting to get the p870tm with 9900k From HIDEvolution or similar within the next month or so ?