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    *** Official Sager NP9877 / Clevo P870TM-G Owner's Lounge! - Phoenix 4 ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 5, 2017.

  1. orion3000

    orion3000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Guys I'm sorry if this question has been answered before. I ordered an NP9877 with i9 9900k from XoticPC and I wanted a Prema Bios with it but they told me Prema Bios is not yet availabe for the i9 so is that true?
     
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    I think it's a safe bet that it's the truth. Partners can be easily verified @ https://premamod.com/partner/ . As they are indeed a partner I don't think they'd lie to you.

    Future insurance is the assumption that when his work is completed and mods available, they'll contact you to setup a flash for the bios (afaik? I think that's the norm for Prema resellers anyway...but I'm not sure if xoticpc offers for only their rebranded models, don't know how up-to-date the info in this thread is atm).

    Definitely don't know much about Prema or latest news regarding his projects but afaik/iirc from what I read, there's the typical never-ending amount of issues that must be solved first, to complete the work on bios mods for latest-gen cpus. Patience is all you have I think :)

    (Sorry if any or all of this is incorrect or useless :oops: )
     
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    Thank you for your answer I only asked because few posts back saw that Prema Bios was out for the i9. I appreciate your time answering me maybe I will get more details later on.
     
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    I've got 1070 from TM1 version of P775 (gpuz in attachment). I would like to sell it but my customer has P870KM barebone. Will the card start on this vbios or he will need to change to a different version of vbios?
     

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    @orion3000 - cfe is spot on accurate. Right now, patience is all we have.
     
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    Wasn't the issue a hardware problem or conflict where the mods for 9900K support were causing a "bring out the SPI programmer and hardware reflash a bios" if you did something like a RAM timing fail tweak in the bios, and FN+D(?) or reset combinations wouldn't work to restore the system? In other words, a hard brick for any user without SPI tools and the knowledge to force flash to recover?
     
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    kfxsti Notebook Evangelist

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    Is the bios chip on this one the 1mb or the 8mb chip?
     
  8. kfxsti

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    Happy Merry Christmas to all my PC brotheren !!
     
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    So my girlfriend bought me an Everki Titan backpack for Christmas. How do I go about silencing the jingling of the zippers?
     
  10. Falkentyne

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    Have Santa Claus install some anti jingle bells for you.
     
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    Thank you for the answer and Merry Christmas to you all guys.
     
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    I already have mine bought and ready and waiting for the release of the actual laptop for it ! lol
     
  13. kfxsti

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    Put heat shrink tubing around them. Lol. That's what I did.
     
  14. Meaker@Sager

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    That's the easiest way, you can use a hairdryer to shrink it.
     
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    I have hard time to find what is specific ID of 144hz FHD IPS that is used by some P870TM-G models. Could anyone provide information? :)
     
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    I used double-sided Velcro tape and cut short strips that I wrapped on each.
     
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    Thanks for the solutions for my small problem guys. I think I'll try the heat shrink approach.
     
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    in eurocom site,you can check out upgrade for clevo p870tm or their x9c model,:
    http://www.eurocom.com/ec/components(429)SkyX9C

    Choose your LCD Display
    - 17.3-inch (43.9cm); 60Hz; FHD 1920x1080; Matte; IPS; 300nts; 700:1; 72% NTSC; eDP 30pin; LP173WF4 SPD1
    - 17.3-inch (43.9cm); 144Hz FHD 1920x1080; Matte; 800:1; 300cd/m2; 72% NTSC; IPS; eDP; 40pin; B173HAN03.1
    - 17.3-inch (43.9cm) 120Hz; QHD 2560x1440; Matte; TN; 5ms; 700:1; 400nts; NTSC 72%; eDP; AUO B173QTN01.0
    - 17.3-inch (43.9cm); 120Hz FHD 1920x1080; Matte; IPS; 700:1; 300nts; eDP; AUO B173HAN01.2; Non G-Sync
    - 17.3-inch (43.9cm); 60Hz; UHD; 3840x2160; Matte; IPS; eDP; 1000:1; Adobe 100% sRGB; 400nts; AUO B173ZAN01.0
     
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    Lol I am sure that's what you want to hear ;)
     
  22. monkeysystem

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    Does anybody have a guess on how much an MXM 2080 would cost?
     
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    Too much to be worth it? :p
     
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    So, like two kidneys?
     
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    "I care not of cost, power I am after" *Yoda*
     
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    I hope the p870TM's are upgraded quickly esp after this new release and that HID has that machine listed with 9 series cpu ! I am still waiting on it though my time is running away slowly ! Shout out to all who are waiting for that machine !
     
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    I suspect the 2080's to be Buku-expensive. But I think they may have a steady stream of them in late January to early Feb, based on leaks.
     
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    8 series to 8 series usually is.
     
  30. yrekabakery

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    680 to 980 and 980 to 1080 were both on the order of +70-75%, so a nice generational improvement. Turing has been underwhelming in terms of traditional rasterization performance increase due to a large area of the die being devoted to ray tracing and deep learning.
     
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    Does anyone know if the EVOC P870TM1 from HIDevolution requires a pin mod (i.e., isolating the two pins of the 9900k) when upgrading from the i7-8700K to the i9-9900k?

    I picked up Commandor's EVOC P870TM1 and will be upgrading the CPU shortly.

    I was told that the notebook has the latest updated version of Prema custom BIOS.
     
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    9th gen is a drop-in upgrade on Z370 with an updated BIOS, no pin mod needed.
     
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    That makes the upgrade very easy. Thanks for the quick reply and answer.
     
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    While it may have the latest updated Prema BIOS, you should wait for the next update before attempting to install the Intel® Core™ i9-9900K. Once available, we can flash it for you remotely.
     
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    Hi Donald. I appreciate the advice. Do you have an ETA as to when the next update will be available?
     
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    No, it is still in the oven.
     
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    It's very important that the current update not be released because there is a bug with something (I think Johnksss mentioned memory timings?) where if you try to set a bad timing, the system won't POST and clear cmos hotkeys won't restore it. You have to hardware flash the chip with a programmer to completely rewrite the nvram. And since memory timings are a popular tweaking feature, well, there you go.
     
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    It also requires a complete tear-down to be able to use the programmer.
     
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    So how was your Christmas, Donald?
    did you get my post in the message I tagged you in ?
     
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    Christmas was great...thanks for asking.

    I don't know to which message you are referring.
     
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    The one with the arms, legs and kidneys (rtx thread?)
     
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    Falkentyne, just PM me the link
     
  43. kfxsti

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    I can vouche for the tear down. If it's like the thunderbolt chip, it has to be removed from the board (unsoldered) to get the bios info from it.
     
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    I believe it can be programmed in situe but still not ideal.
     
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    Yes, I totally agree. Even if we avoided desoldering the SOIC by using an EEprom SOIC clip with a CH341A or EZP2010, it's still a big hassle.

    By the way, does anyone know if Clevo will be updating the P870TM1's motherboard (early 2019 ETA) to possibly accomodate the upcoming mobile RTX 2080 power consumption?

    The reason why I ask is that I've noticed a number of Clevo resellers no longer offering the P870TM1 on their websites anymore.
     
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    You'll need to wait for any official information.
     
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    Progressively thinking more of buying the current model itelf and be done with it rather than wait for 9900k for this machine. If cannot get something in the next couple of days then not sure if I will get anything later !! Really waiting on SOME news from HID !
     
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    [​IMG]

    Wait for RTX - dont buy now. You will regret - trust me.
     
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    I am not that enamored by RTX but I DO wish to get that 9900k with decent temps yes !
     
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    New review of P870XX will probably have one RTX card and even better cooling solutions to handel i9 9900k properly. Just wait man - i think its max month or two till next gen clevo.

    Mby even new model (with new cooling solutions, better temps/noise, new keyboard, better screen and etc. - who knows). U will be sorry if something new will come up and u bough old crap.
     
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