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    *** Official Sager NP9877 / Clevo P870TM-G Owner's Lounge! - Phoenix 4 ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 5, 2017.

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    Is that a new one for the 9900k? I have the old 6700k one that's especially tall.
     
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    There is a new one yes indeed . I have it and the Rockit 88 .
    ** Let me refraise this. Lol unless I have some knock off or something. I have a 9series bitspower IHS and I definitely know I have a Rockit88 9 Series IHS. Lol
     
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    The 9900K die is thicker than 8086K. Rockit warns against use of 8th gen lid on 9900K you could crush the die.
    Where can you buy Bitspower IHS for 9th gen? It seems they only advertise for 7th and 9th gen.

    Have you the thickness (height) numbers for stock 9900K lid? As well for Rockit 9 series IHS and same for the Bitspower lid? Thanks
     
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    I'll measure first thing in the AM. And Amazon is where the bits came from.
     
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    Good point, unless you go the whole hog and grind the die down too.
     
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    Where did you buy the 9th gen Bitpower ihs? It's not listed in their store from what I can see.

    Edit: Just read the previous replies :)
     
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    I'll have to measure the Rockit88 when I repaste this weekend.
     

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    I think the old silver shining one is around 4mm thick?
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 5, 2019
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    The old Silver Shining is ~4.3mm in height versus the stock 3.3mm.

    Here are some photos I took a few minutes ago from my IHS pile showing the SL vs the RC Copper:

    DSCN2252.JPG
     
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    Nice, thanks for confirming :)
     
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    What is the surface area width and length ?
     
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    A fair bit less but if you need the height the quality of contact is more important.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 6, 2019
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    The more area you have ,the less likely you are to need a shim is why I was asking. Adding too much height with not enough surface area can cause the heatsink to cup around the IHS.
     
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    Here are some comparison shots top and bottom.

    The RC IHS definitely has more surface space, but that is its main selling point just as the BP selling point is the added height for a better pair (at least for us).

    I used a SL in my P870DM-G when I was running a 6700k. The tighter pair allowed me to use Gelid and LM no problems. With the stock IHS, I used Kryo then eventually Nano.

    I'm running a SL 8086k in there now with the stock lid and nano atm.




    DSCN2254.JPG
    DSCN2251.JPG
     
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    While if the fit is just right you get a good contact pressure.
     
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    True that. Lol but my fitting lottery sucked . On 4 Heatsinks. Lol.
     
    kfxsti, Jul 6, 2019
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    I get perfect contact basically with it and I'm not sorry :p
     
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    I'm having a weird issue with my keyboard. I had to clear cmos due to ram testing, and now F2 key and 0 on keypad don't seem to work. Initially I thought this was because one of the ribbon cables wasn't seated properly, but after reseating both cables it persist and only those keys don't seem to register.

    There is no damage to the k/b as far as I can tell and I certainly did not poke a hole through it.

    Any ideas? As a temp fix I just swapped k/b from my p775tm1 for the time being.
     
    jc_denton, Jul 7, 2019
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    The keyboards are based on arrays so if only two keys are not working that usually means it is switch based issues.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 8, 2019
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    I see, is this something that is fixable by hand?
     
    jc_denton, Jul 8, 2019
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    Usually not I'm afraid.
     
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    Ah bummer, thanks anyway Meaker.
     
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    It's worth speaking to your reseller about.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 9, 2019
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    I'll shoot an email to Donald and see what we can do. On the bright side, the p870tm1 boots fine with 3200mhz ripjaws :)
     
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    Nice on the memory speed :)
     
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    Hi jc_denton,

    Have you tried cleaning the contacts on your primary keyboard ribbon cable with 99% isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol and a soft-bristled toothbrush or Q-Tip before properly reseating the cable?

    I had a similar problem with three keys that didn't work (i.e., the "backspace", " [ ", and " ] " keys) awhile ago and the above cleaning and reseating of the cable did the trick.

    Good luck.
     
    supernovastar, Jul 11, 2019
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    I simply reseated them a couple times, I will try to clean the contacts as you suggested. Thanks!

    Edit: I tried cleaning the contacts as suggested, it sadly did not help with the issue. The keys still don't register.
     
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    Hey can anyone tell me if any CPU designed for a intel 300 series mobo will work in the p870tm to see if the motherboard or the cpu is dead?? asking for a friend...
     
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    According to this any 8th/9th gen CPU would be compatible with the 300 series. However, 6th/7th gen cpu, ie. 6700k/7700k are not with the 300 series boards.
     
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    Ok yep cool. But there are no other restrictions in terms of 8th/9th gen cpus that can go in the p870tm?

    Ie I could use an i3 9100f which only costs $100 for testing porpoises ?
     
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    What chip are you looking at?
     
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    I could get an i3 9100f for $100 today and rule that out as the problem, as long as it would normally work in the p870tm...
     
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    In theory, it should. As it's a 9th gen lga 1151 cpu designed for z370.
     
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    Not sure if the F chips have same microcode. And If so has Clevo added them in their later firmware? Only testing can confirm or the OEMs.
     
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    Best bet would be to ask your reseller wheter its supported. As Papusan pointed out, there could be potential problems.

    Would be a bummer to waste 100 bucks, hence why I wrote 'in theory'
     
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    Ah, basically it would be what was available when ordering your system generation wise.
     
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    Processor / CPU
    - 3.7GHz (up to 4.7GHz) Intel Core i7-8700K; 6C/12T; 12MB L3; 14nm; Coffee Lake; LGA1151; 95W
    - 2.40GHz (up to 4.0GHz) Intel Core i7-8700T; 6C/12T; 12MB L3; 14nm; Coffee Lake; LGA1151; 35W
    - 4.0GHz (up to 5.0GHz) Intel Core i7-8086K; 6C/12T; 12MB L3; 14nm; Coffee Lake; LGA1151; 95W
    - 3.2GHz (up to 4.6GHz) Intel Core i7-8700; 6C/12T; 12MB L3; 14nm; Coffee Lake; LGA1151; 65W
    - 3.6GHz (up to 4.3GHz) Intel Core i5-8600K; 6C/6T; 9MB L3; 14nm; Coffee Lake; LGA1151; 95W
    - 2.8GHz (up to 4.0GHz) Intel Core i5-8400; 6C/6T; 9MB L3; 14nm; Coffee Lake; LGA1151; 65W
    - 3.7GHz (up to 4.6GHz) Intel Core i5-9600K; 6C/6T; 9MB L3; 14nm; Coffee Lake; LGA1151; 95W
    - 3.6GHz (up to 4.9GHz) Intel Core i7-9700K; 8C/8T; 12MB L3; 14nm; Coffee Lake; LGA1151; 95W
    - 3.6GHz (up to 5.0GHz) Intel Core i9-9900K; 8C/16T; 16MB L3; 14nm; Coffee Lake; LGA1151; 95W
     
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    From the looks of it there aren't any 'F' type cpu listed, so it would be a gamble.
     
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    Yep I’ll go the i5 8400 as the next step up probably. Although I’ll, I mean, my friend will be annoyed if it is the cpu and then I’ll end up buying a 8700k as well...
     
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    8700K is a nice chips.
     
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    Or the 8086k as a binned one ;)
     
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    Yes yes, I have an 8086k. The problem is, have I fried it? I mean my friend...oh **** it. Do I buy a back up 8086k? Or do I buy an 8400 to check it...
     
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    Something easy to pass on I would say that's selling quickly.
     
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    Ok that makes sense. So either an 8700k or 8086k and then I either keep it or sell it...thanks!
     
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    When it comes to RAM what would be better, 16-18-18-36 @3600mhz or 18-19-19-39 @3800mhz?
     
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    For games the former most likely.
     
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    Getting it to run that speed is a challenge in it self.
     
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    Well yes, those are the desktop x299 asrock rated sticks I think?
     
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    I believe you are correct.
     
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    Dont expect their rating in the notebook.
     
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