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    *** Official Sager NP9877 / Clevo P870TM-G Owner's Lounge! - Phoenix 4 ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 5, 2017.

  1. luisxd

    luisxd Notebook Consultant

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    I had a similar problem where it would beep due to a malfunctioning fan.
     
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    almostoast Notebook Guru

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    yes, even after i have replaced my cpu heatsink and cpu fan.
    i first noticed the problem when my cpu fan would spin-up wild.
    beeping would start. then shut down while continuosly beeping.
    so. i replaced all thermal pads and gc extreme on the gpu. (my gpu has always had nice numbers the dual vapor chamber and single gpu is a hit in my book. )
    I then ordered a new heatsink with fan included,
    replaced thermal pads and new liquid metal.
    boot it up and numbers look good. beeping starts... shut down.
     
  3. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Might want to reach out to HID, could be a sensor fault.
     
  4. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Do all the fans spin up with fn+1?
     
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    Michael Tarr Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi all I am new to forums I recently got my self an Eurocom SKY X9C Barebone (Clevo p870tm1-g ) for my 50 I want to get a Prema BIOS for it and only Prema bios @Mr.Fox had said very nice things about it in his youtube videos. I have also come to find out Eurocom is not a Prema partner anymore, I would sell body parts to get it any help, please Cheers from New Zealand
    I have not found the topic on doing such.
     
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  6. Jaces9900

    Jaces9900 Notebook Consultant

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    need some advice running a p870tm1-g gtx 1080 200w , i9 9900k , getting high temps ,
     
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    electrosoft Perpetualist Matrixist

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    high temps on cpu? Gpu? Exact specs?
     
  8. Jaces9900

    Jaces9900 Notebook Consultant

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    well i now have two as i just bought another one today from guy on here , but the system is


    p870tm1-g Eurocom model , gtx 1080 200w , 4x16gb curcial 2666mhz , 2tb nvme, 1tb nvme, non raid , i9 9900k getting high temps in mid load


    and the one i just bought having issues as soon as i install the graphics drivers instant artifact and system reboots

    that on was the one in the post the one from hid ?
     
  9. electrosoft

    electrosoft Perpetualist Matrixist

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    Eurocom model sounds like it could be classic taming the 9900k since it runs hot. Starting with with pairing pressure test. Is the cpu delidded? When was the last time it was repasted?

    as for the one you just bought that’s a HID model, artifacting and rebooting after driver install could mean a dead or dying GPU. I’d give it a nvram reset and a clean install and start from there (cpu, gpu and memory stress tests)
     
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  10. Jaces9900

    Jaces9900 Notebook Consultant

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    how do i do a nvram reset , and i was going on the lines of bad gpu , sad the person i bought it from stated and told me ran perfect no issues , i have my older p870dm3-g , that has another gtx 1080, i need to flash to work on the tm series ill test in a few keep you posted thanks for your help
     
  11. electrosoft

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    pull the main battery and cmos battery from under the keyboard. Push power up for 20 seconds. Put them back in. Turn on.

    Luckily you have two P870 models and two 1080’s to test. Good luck.
     
  12. Jaces9900

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    i actually have a p870dm3-g with a sli gtx 1080 set
    1 p870tm1-g eurocom build with a gtx 1080
    now just bought this one with a personal asurance all was in perfect working order and well i got ****ed!!! simple , the gpu is toasted and the person whom sold it to me knew this and didnt disclose at all been working on this for hours now and nothing , so pull card from older p870dm3-g and wham working now no artifacts and solid currently , little bit of a delat in boot , so look at old card , the whole thing is slimed with paste , even in under the thermal tape , and on the far right side where the caps are caked with paste , gona pull apart and clean in a few , but i am pretty upset on this buy!@
     
  13. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Post high resolution pict of the card. Maybe @Khenglish can look at it.
     
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  14. electrosoft

    electrosoft Perpetualist Matrixist

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    Wow, sorry to hear. Killer price but now it kind of makes sense. Like @Papusan said, post pics of the card front and back.

    The good news is baring any other hang ups the rest of the system appears to be working ok but you do need to contact the seller and see what they can do. Even with a dead/dying card, 1k is a solid price for a 870tm1 prema latest with everything else it had but that doesn’t change what happened.

    With SLI going the way of the dodo you can also give up the slave 1080 permanently to the bad GPU model and have three working single 1080 models. Dead 1080’s still command at least a few hundred on eBay.
     
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  15. Jaces9900

    Jaces9900 Notebook Consultant

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    yes i agree ill get some photos just cleaned the old card up had goop everywere , as well the problem is the fact i feel sorta scamed as not telling me the issues i sat here wasting hours of time this was to go to my son , whoms 14yr brother passed this year as a xmas gift and the seller knew this as well , sadly i feel burnt .. and i agree the sli in the older machine has since been pulled and put in my eurcom system , when i bought it as a barebone , but now i have a p870dm3-g with no card in it sadly i got to find a card now or bite the bullet and find a couple 2070 or 2080 idk , have a chance to get a 2070 for 600.00 usd each , but need the heat sinks too sadly so by time done around 850-900 total cost per card not to bad but still i was asured this system was 100% in working order and no issues , at all so idk
     
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    looking for the gtx 1080 180w tdp bios flash as my p870dm3-g had the 180w cards and now with the flash i had to do to get them to work in the p870tm1-g knocked to 150w tdp so idk any one have a bios
     
  17. matyee

    matyee Notebook Deity

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    I am sorry to hear your story...
    Check the dsanke mod thread openned by damaffia gamer, you can find all vbios versions there. All gop modified but it is not not an issue.
     
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    The 870TM you just bought has a vapor chamber and if you're handy with a Dremel, @Johnksss posted some pics awhile back showing how to mod your vapor chamber to accommodate the 2000 series Nvidia cards if you do go that direction. Put a 2060, 2070 or 2080 in the TM w/ VC and gift it or one of the other 2. Alternatively, if cost is a consideration, you can also go down to a 1060 like in mine for costs (I actually downsized from a 1080) if you're gifting a 1080p model. You just have to mod the drivers.

    In addition, you can see if the seller will accept a return depending on how you paid. Most in person transactions are cash and carry (or as close as possible). I always make sure to boot up and test the equipment if that's the case. I don't really care or notice physical imperfections and they are a non issue, but if something doesn't perform as described or the hardware is defective, that is when I seek a solution.

    Here is the Dsanke thread with vBIOS and Dsanke BIOS files: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...clevo-laptops-rtx-cards-now-supported.825558/

    I would definitely keep the newest Prema on the unit you just bought though as it supports up to 9900ks and 2000 series. It's the same that's on mine.
     
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    Judge_Jury_X Newbie

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    So I have an NP9877 and I'm looking to upgrade the RAM. Right now I have 32GB (2x16GB) Apacer 3000Mhz. I am looking at the manual and it appears to support 64GB (4x16GB) in 2666 Mhz or 3000Mhz in XMP. I can't seem to find a SODIMM 4x16GB 3000Mhz set from any name brands. So I have 2 questions, Will these machines run faster than 3000 Mhz, and if so, how to set that up? What are you guys running for RAM setups?
     
  20. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    You can do up to 4x 32GB with speeds of DDR4/3200MHz or possibly higher.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The Prema bios has options to support more than 64GB.
     
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  22. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    It'll be interesting modding the vapor chamber for 30x0 series as well, since driver modding isn't all that complicated.
     
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    If the 3000 series works, the longevity of the P870TM just gains another notch on its belt.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Indeed, though the 1080 has managed to be relevant too :)
     
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  25. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Since x170 is getting the RTX3XXX series upgrade it will still use the old 8-pin power connector, power delivery and memory layout will most likely dictate how they will need to be modded to fit.
    Also, it'll be interesting to see whether the rumors about 8/16GB versions are true for mobile segment, and whether the mobile 3000 series will deliver a full or cut-down GPU dies. As rumors have it, RTX 3080 Max-Q sits at 6144 cuda cores, while the desktop RTX 3080 sport 8704 cuda cores.
     
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    It's going to depend on how the GA104 and GA102 package I guess and how well they clock at the power targets. That shader count would be a fully unlocked GA104 IIRC?
     
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    I'm sure all 3080 Mobile will get the full GA 104 die. Max-P will follow the Max-Q as hand in gloves. Remember the M moniker. We are back to the dark days with real mobile cards but now with up to 10+ crippled variants.

    Edit.
    Gone is the days with equal performance from Mobile cards vs the real desktop cards (980/1080). All we have left is graphics cards intended more for Jokebooks.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Well gone are the days of 150-200W desktop parts more like.
     
  29. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Hopefully we will find ways of harvesting the potential power from 30x0 GPUs. But nvidia sure doesn't make it easy to do that these days.
     
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    That will depend on things like clock limits.
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Hard coded frequency barrier is such a waste.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I agree, such artificial segmentation and limits is just wasteful.
     
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    I tired that and got error in bios with 128gb ram recently on the one I picked up and on my eurocom got told have to disable tb3

    Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk
     
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    I do remember them saying that, you activated the option in the BIOS before putting the ram in?
     
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    Got a error about pci resources

    Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk
     
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    When you switched the option on or when you rebooted?
     
  37. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Indeed, it's just mind bending that they would chose to go and do that to lock out any overhead performance.
     
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    Market segmentation and lack of competition.
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    How long has it been since competitive AMD mxm cards?
     
  40. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    7970m really 8-9 years ago. One of my first mxm-b cards.
     
  41. jc_denton

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    Well then its about time they came back.
     
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    Indeed, we had the CPU side, hopefully with resources they can come back on GPU too.
     
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    The 6800 GPUs are more power efficient than Ampere. The problem is to know if they will make the push for MXM cards, but power/performance is there :)
     
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    Are drivers though?
     
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    Without DLSS, any talk of perf/W on AMD cards is pretty irrelevant...
     
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    Yes.

    They have a DLSS competitor in the works. DLSS is a nice boost, but it does not work in every game.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    These two comments don't match :p
     
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    Why? You were asking for driver problems, from what I've seen, you don't have major driver issues with AMD GPUs.

    DLSS is a feature, that only recently AMD started to develop. It's a bit different
     
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    You must not have looked hard enough, because Navi driver woes have been well documented.
     
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    I can also look hard enough and find nvidia driver problems :p
     
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