Introducing The 2013 Series 7 Chronos with AMD HD8870M!

Unfortunately, if this version doesn't sell well, there is a possibility there might not even be a Haswell version.

HP did something similar with the envy line - the 2009 models with 5830m and dual SSDs in Raid0 didn't get enough marketing attention, sold poorly, as a result they cut the MSRP, transitioned to weaker GPUs, added optical disc drive (resulting in a bulkier laptop compared to the older model) and scrapped the SSD Raid. Now they just completely gave up on the high end line and re-branded all their pavilions and half the crappy desktops "envy."

 

I ordered it and it worked (from Germany).
On checkout it says: delivery 5-22 March :/

 

This website mentions Intel Wireless Display posibillities come with this notebook.

Further more it seems there are two main version regarding the NP770Z5E, most likely being:

NP770Z5E-S01 with Intel Core i7-3635QM
NP770Z5E-S02 with Intel Core i7-3610QM

However, different websites are stating different processors for both the S01 and S02.

People from The Netherlands are able to pre-order here.

 

We know it has widi as we know it has a intel I CPU and a intel wireless card, but the more confirmation the better!

 

Anyway, some Dutch online shops have changed delivery status to 'more then 10 days' and have changed stock-status to: Limited availability.

So something is happening

This website states an expected stock availability date on 27 February, 2013, but again Benelux customers only and for the crazy price of €1800 :|

 

this website uses even wrong images, in fact it uses images of 780Z5E that is the touch screen model...

 

Does anyone know if the Chronos and Ultra will have an 802.11ac wireless card? These specs don't show the card type, but it's really important.

 

http://m.samsung.com/uk/news/localn...-enhanced-series-7-chronos-and-new-ultrabooks

H1 2013 in the UK

 

Between now and July-ish.

Specific.

 

Hopefully there will be a US press release soon that's more precise!

 

Fair deuce, though I expect them to confirm what was reputedly said by the CES guys -- March to April, which probably means late-Feb to Mar for nontouch; Late-Mar to April for touch.

 

I think you're probably right
Two more months!
I really hope that no amazing haswell stuff gets announced before then. I really want a new laptop but I've waited a year now, so not waiting an extra 2 months might not make that much sense

 

If those Russian benchmarks were accurate, I must say I don't really care too much about Haswell. It seems it only offers a small performance upgrade, with a more significant power saving move. All of this would be nice, except that it seems Samsung has already squeezed in 11ish hours, accounting for some corporate BS, I'd say usably about 8 hours of battery?

Seems pretty usable enough as it is.

http://lensfire.in/25397/news/intel-haswell-benchmarks-vs-ivy-bridge-processor/

Worth noting that all of this is reliant on some not entirely reliable Russian source without too much detail, but if its accurate, I suspect Intel's primarily focusing on improving the ULV 17 W stuff to have some power kick to them, and squeezing more battery life in order to compete with ARM stuff.

It would make all too much sense for Intel to try and get x86 systems small enough, and with enough battery in order to try and get Core x86 hybrids to hold their own against ARM's, without the crippling pain of using the powered down Atom stuff.

 

I think most of the point of Haswell is the iGPU, not the raw single threaded CPU performance. For a laptop like this it's irrelevant but personally I hope some company makes a 15" 1080p Haswell laptop with no discrete GPU at a pretty thin size. It seems doable, the Series 7 Chronos is nearly there and without the dGPU it could probably get even thinner or put in a bigger battery. Judging from reports the Haswell GPU should be more than enough for my needs of light gaming.

 

Hi everyone, I'm new in this forum.
I've got some information about Samsung NP770Z7E series. Today I spoke with customer service from the computer website form my native country which is Poland. The NP770Z7E non touch series will be officially available on 20th February. Take a look at this configuration Samsung 770Z7E i7-3635QM/12GB/1000/DVD-RW/Win8 HD8870M - Notebook / Laptop 17,3" - Sklep komputerowy - X-KOM.PL and all other Samsung models http://www.x-kom.pl/g-2/c/159-laptopy-notebooki-ultrabooki.html?price[from]=&price[to]=&producent_id[29]=1&sort=product_pricesort=product_price. The 17'3 inch model from the first link costs 5099PLN - 50PLN rebate+ 20PLN in country delivery which is approx. 1220€ - 12€ + 4.8€ = 1212.8€ with all taxes included and also you can apply for Global Blue Tax Free Form for non Europe residents Sklep internetowy notebooki, tanie laptopy, wydajne notebooki laptopy dla graczy. I hope this information will be helpful in comparison with other retailers.
P.S. I'm not an advertiser from the website mentioned above. But they should pay me anyway

 

1200 euro for the 17"??

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I wonder what they cut from the specs. Polish version of 770Z5E is castrated beyond belief
NP770Z5E-S01PL - price 4599PLN (~1090E, 23% VAT included) for 12GB config
but:
CPU: Intel Core i5-3230M
VidCard: AMD Radeon HD 8850M 2 GB VRAM GDDR3

Also I'm not sure what display is used (250E price disparity suggests no PLS). X-Kom representatives couldn't tell which one is used. Newer offers in other shops shows this model with pictures of unfamous "M" model (the one with black keyboard). So it might happen we won't get full aluminium case too.
NP770Z5E-S01PL in Sferis shop

What's a shame, I really wanted to get one, but full specs (8850 would be ok bcause of heat), but not with specs like that.
Damn I hate to be treated as second-class customer. If that'd be the case I think I'll ban all the Samsung products from my shopping considerations.

[EDIT] It seems that Sferis uses 770Z7E images, second pic shows slot-in opticcal drive, but still price suggests there are more differences than just CPU and gfx card.

 

Series 8?

NP870Z5E,NT880Z5E,NT870Z5E,NP880Z5E

 

Where did you find these?

 

Deep in Korea, whatever it is it's closely related to NP770/780

 

Maybe these are versions with 8GB soldered and SSD included, but it's the first time that I seen NT in the name of Samsung notebooks.

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NT is used in Korea NP outside so nothing unusual.

NT770Z5E is the main code for the system and it has codes for other markets and different specs but they added other versions to the same file in Korean National Radio Research Agency for certification.

The file looks like this:

Korea: NT770Z5E, NT780Z5E, NT870Z5E, NT880Z5E

Outside Korea: NP770Z5E, NP780Z5E, NP870Z5E, NP880Z5E


Only 16GB versions have 8GB soldered so there will be no 8GB soldered and empty slot version

 

Yes, I intended with 8GB soldered the model capables of 16GB ram.
I know there is no chance that Samsung sells a model with only 8GB soldered.

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been following this thread for a while now, definitly on the line to buy one of these when it comes out. Still, I'll probably wait for a review first, cause I'm not really sure how Samsung managed to create a decent cooling system for this kind of hardware, and if it will actually work properly. Heating is a huge dealbreaker for me, I just returned a XPS 15 cause of how warm it would get.

Also, anyone knows if the 15.6 model will have dual fans, one for the gpu and another for the cpu?

 

I've just been in Samsung store in London and they said there is no specific date for Chronos 7 but it should be in store at the beginning of March. They said that they expect "a whole bunch of new laptops at that time"

 

I think we know about most of the new laptops already due to the fishingtree site
Did they mention if that's for the touch version as well?

 

I think we still don't know.
My guess would be that it has the same amount of fans that the current chroma has?

And sorry for the double post. Tapatalk can't multi quote!

 

Hmm, anyone know anything more about this proprietary "RAM-celerator" stuff?

Wondering if this might cause performance problems for memory intensive applications or games.

 

I did the same considerations, if the cooling system is not good enough maybe we're waiting for nothing.
I think that dual fans system is very likely, in some pictures of bottom you can see two separate grids.

IMHO RAM-accelerator is a kind of RAM-disk

 

Almost certainly is just RAMDisc, the name + the promised benefits are in line with what they say. Its fine, don't worry about it, unless its particularly horribly implemented, you should hardly notice anything other than the loss of some RAM for usage. Basically its a way to trade RAM for speed. For a higher end version with 16 gigs, perfectly good idea.

I moved this to the last spot because of its importance -- this is literally the one thing that could kill the deal for me at this point. This laptop has everything you could want for power, battery life, and portability, at a fairly reasonable price. However, its my personal hope that Samsung looked at the specs, saw everyone would freak about overheating due to sticking both a i7 quad core and a 8870M into a slim notebook, and if anything, overengineered the system so it wouldn't overheat.

Literally, I cannot see anything about this laptop that would kill the deal for me except for heating. All reviews already stated the keyboard's good, screen's good, the specs are great, and this is the last thing that could be a horrible problem -- also the most likely given the amount of high end stuff crammed into this guy.

 

The trackpad could be bad as well. One review said it was too finicky but that's probably just drivers!

I'm sure someone will review the non-touch version too. Laptopmag already reviewed the Sony t15 and it's not out for a few weeks.

 

What exactly is a ram disk? If I format the disk and do a clean Windows installation, will I need to install some kind of software to benefit from this RAM acceleration?


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From what I understand, its just a thing where the computer treats a chunk of RAM like a hard drive, and gets speed increases well above even SSD range for that few GB worth of stuff. I believe we're talking in the '5-GBps read/write" range, vs the 500'ish MBps read/write you get from an SSD, vs the 100ish you can get out of a good HDD (I'm not going to bother talking about random access and seek time, just suffice it to say that an SSD is not merely 5 times better than a HDD).


To answer your second question -- I'd assume so, some form of software is definitely necessary to tell Windows that this is a hard drive, and to manage the RAM -- I imagine it'll be part of the core Samsung drivers and software that you can reinstall from their website, but I can't be certain. We'll both learn more when we see the details of Samsung's particular implementation.

True, but I doubt I'll care, I've worked fine on the worst trackpads in existence and hardly noticed. I'm sure that will diminish some of the good in this laptop, but I'm pretty sure with these specs, I'd take one of those old pointing sticks.

 

Can anyone recommend a laptop similar to the new Chronos 7? I need something that has the highest build quality, a great screen, i7, and a mid-tier or higher GPU. Has to be sleek, no gigantic gaming laptops please.

Honestly, I am tired of waiting for this thing to be released and need a new laptop now and not some nebulous "early spring" estimate. If Samsung wants to provide a hard date, I'll wait. But they won't....and therefore I won't either.

 

Asus U500/UX51VZ? If you really want that, it'll do, though its touchscreen version is yet to come yet, and the thing is a tad pricy.

Also, I've heard it has overheating issues. Apart from that, I don't personally know anything in the same category as this. Which is kind of why I'm waiting, despite wanting something sooner rather than later.

EDIT: In retrospect, yes I do. Its the Macbook Pro.

Yes, I am being perfectly serious.

 

Is this going to come with an integrated 802.11ac wireless card or not?

 

We don't know.
According to http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=710_577_369&item_id=057634 no.
But it has a 6235 which is a good card

 

Is there anything reported on the battery life that is not just restating Samsungs claims? I find it very hard to believe that they achieve this kind of battery life with a standard voltage quadcore i7. The VAIO S15 for instance just gets 4 hours, with comparable specs, even though a bit lighter. But even with an atttached sheet battery it doesnt get anything close to 11 hours.

 

Well there is a lack of a DVD drive and a 2nd HDD/SSD spot. That's extra space is probably being used for the extra battery capacity. And I'm sure it won't achieve 11 hours, but probably closer to 8 or 9 hours.

 

Somewhere it was stated that the Chronos had a 91 Watt-hour battery, which is reasonably impressive.

The Macbook pro gets about 7.5ish hours and has 77 Watt-hours. Therefore a reasonable guess is 8-9ish hours?

 

The MBP never ever gets 7.5 hours if you actually use it. Also, just add up the numbers: 91Wh with a runtime of 9 hours would mean the whole device uses about 10W...

 

I've read somewhere that Chronos should use a new type of Li-Po battery with a proprietary Samsung technology. It may be bullsh... but maybe it's the reason of this extended battery life. Producers always overestimate battery life, but not more than a couple of hours...

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Less than 10W is feasible if running on the Intel graphics, very light CPU load, dim display, no WiFi / bluetooth and an SSD. I can get my X4C down to 6W and forecasting 10 hours from its 60Whr battery. [Although it never gets there because of bursts of higher power consumption.]

Watt-hours are watt-hours irrespective of the battery chemistry or controller chip/program. New technology would most likely be aimed at reducing wear.

John

 

Why are there no solar-cell attached covers for laptops? In summer this would greatly increase battery life.
Samsung already made one try, Google for: Samsung NC215S

 

Theoretically yes, but practically it will use more than 10W on average - with WiFi on, it doesn't have an SSD, and more importantly - it is powered by a standard voltage quad-core CPU, no ULV. Anyway, I think about 6 hours should be expected realistically and I'm perfectly fine with that. If everything proves to be as promised by the announcement, this will definately be my new laptop. Was waiting for a new S15 with better graphics and no ODD, but this is definately better.

 

It appears that you're speaking quite a bit over your head so I'll chime in here. John is one of the most knowledgeable members about these laptops so you'll have a tough time arguing against him. Secondly, my current generation Z5C Chronos is regularly under 10W power consumption while doing light web browsing and listening to music. With WiFi off, mostly idling, and minimum brightness it's down to 6W. I currently get between 6 and 7 hours on on my Chronos while doing regular web browsing, listening to music, and word processing.

Just because it has a 45W processor, that doesn't mean it consumes any more power than the 35W i7 in the Sony does while on battery. The TDP rating is assumed under full load while plugged in, as when it's on battery both the 3615qm/3635qm and the 3612qm/3632qm will have a base clock of 1.2Ghz.

I wouldn't be surprised if the new Chronos can manage 8-9 hours of use considering they dropped the optical drive and would theoretically have expanded the battery into that space. Also a heads up, current SSDs still aren't quite that power efficient under max load unless you're looking at things like the 840 Pro, and even then it's still around 3W.

The battery in the Z5A and Z5C Chronos is an 80Whr and if the new one has a 91Whr battery, well, you can do the math. The S15 has poor battery life because it's battery is somewhere around 55Whr (I don't know the exact number).

 

Thanks for this info. 6W is quite impressive for this notebook but shows that it can be done. I understand that Intel's power management is increasingly effective in shutting down parts of the CPU when they are not needed to work.

Samsung's claims are based on:

Whether that is representative of real life usage is questionable. I would assume that 6 hours is feasible, 8 hours is possible and 10 hours requires a sustained minimum power usage condition.

John

 

Samsung's estimates are always of the lightest use scenario. I would expect an impressive real life usage of at least 6 hours though from this new series 7.

 

Basically MobileMark doesn't load the laptop much and is considered light use. I would still expect the battery life to be at least 6 hours for real use.

 

The only other laptops I'm aware of with decent graphics card for gaming at 1080p and at least relatively thin chassis are the Razer Blade (i7-3632QM, Nvidia 660m, 0.88" thick, around $2500), the rMBP (i7-3720QM, 650m, 0.95" thick, $2200), hp dv6-7200 (i7-3740QM, Nvidia 650m, 1.15" thick, about $1600). The ASUS U500VZ will reportedly have similar specs (i7-3632QM, Nvidia 650m, 0.82" thick) but the price has not been announced.

I would keep waiting for the Chronos, as I think the 8870m will smoke the 660m and 650m, and it seems the price point will be significantly lower than the Razer Blade. However, perhaps you can find something else out there if you keep looking, try to get something with 1080p display, quad core non-ULV CPU and at least 645m, 650m or AMD 7730m, 7750m or better)