Introducing The 2013 Series 7 Chronos with AMD HD8870M!

In france we can buy NP7 70Z 7E-S01FR 1TB version (azerty) with 8 870 Only 4 avalaible but some being conveyed.

http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00B1RZ76S/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1X6FK5RDHNB96
1.345,50 € ( 1780usd)

 

Well, I've read this thread for almost a month now so I thought it was time to register so I could speak....

Even if Samsung haven't released the date yet they don't stop you from going to a store asking about incoming delivery....

I went to NetOnNet here in Sweden asking for: 770Z5E and they found np7705ze-S02SE. Also Elgiganten will have the same model.

Samsung NP770Z5E-S02SE - 15,6-tums Ultrabook med skarp Full-HD skärm!


Basically translated into euros it should be around 1500-1600€ and this is what you get:

15,6" Full-HD non-touch Matte display
Intel® Core™ i7 3635QM
8GB RAM 1600MHz (asked if it was 8 soldered or 4+4, they didnt know)
256GB SSD -(asked what brand/model it was, they didnt know)
AMD Radeon™ HD 8870M 2GB (hehe, this is why we buy this laptop and the design ofc)
~8h battery

Here's the imoportant thing: They said they will have it in stock 28th of February so thats nice

 

You are free to do everything you want, but until now every retailers in Europe that have written "available on 8 Feb or 15 Feb" have supplied wrong info.
I have read your post even the other time, and I think none in Italy is worried because you don't trust in them.

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I've found a site in the UK selling the 17" model, though from the SKU I think it may be the German model. Can anyone confirm?

NP770Z7E-S04DE

To me the DE at the end would signify that it's a German model, but Systo are not responding and I obviously don't want to buy it unless it's got a full English keyboard.

Thanks.

 

i have bought electronics from both italy and europe. my experience with italy was the worst i had. but buying from europe was fantastic. many consumers i know personally complained about buying from italy too. if u want to risk buying products from italy thats your money not mine.

 

Exactly the configuration that I want... I don't care about 16 GB RAM, 8 is enough (and the possibility to upgrade to 12 even more so). Hope it comes to Singapore or the US like that. I don't want a glossy touchscreen or slow HDD.

 

Please refrain from offending any person let alone nation. Posts have been edited/deleted.

 

I share your concerns. DE means a German model (which often have better specs than the UK ones) and, these days, doing a keyboard swap is not easy (a few years ago notebook.de would offer a keyboard swap as part of the ordering process because it was a simple task).

John

 

It's very annoying!! Systo have some in stock, for a reasonable price but I don't want to buy it with a German keyboard/power supply/etc. I don't understand why it isn't available en-mass in Europe and especially in the UK. I had the same problem trying to find the Asus U500 with 512Gb SSD and eventually gave up. Let's hope it arrives sooner rather than later.

 

In my opinion a larger battery, 1080p screen, better build materials and 8870M graphics card would totally justify a $500 price increase. On top of that add an 256GB SSD and it's a steal of a deal considering how much 256GB models cost. My issue with the 8770M is that with the built in throttling it is probably not even reaching it's full potential. Considering it's full potential is less powerful than a 650M, you could easily find a more powerful device for less money. Heck, you could even pay a bit more and get the Asus ultrabook with a decent graphics card. Tweaking notebook graphics by overclocking is a totally different game than desktops as there are a lot more issues that may arise.

I totally understand buying the lower model to test the form factor and functionality. But Imo the selling point of these systems is fully powered laptop potential in a close to ultra book form factor, the higher model giving the best representation of this, giving what is practically a gaming laptop in the same chassis. Otherwise you could buy regular laptops which are more powerful than the lower model for equivalent prices.

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Ya, it has me rethinking my decision on laptops. I may end up down a different path.

 

Watching this thread since 1 month ago. 2 weeks ago I bought a Asus U500VZ aka UX51, and I really like this machine..

I wanted the new series 7 chronos with touchscreen so bad, but i did not want to wait.. So I bought the u500vz.

Since people are showing up in this thread that bought the new series 7 Chronos, and are replying like the notebook is not as good as espected, I am very happy that I bought the Asus machine.

I would really like to ask you to consider an Asus ux51...

 

Nobody got their hands on the better versions yet, so we don't know for sure.

 

True, we'll see of course, but I am afraid it isn't much better.

 

Here is my feeling. You have 3 basic categories, all of which depend on your need for mobility:

1. Stationary: You have time to play games in one position, at home, with little distraction or need to relocate. In this case nothing will beat what a gaming rig has to offer. In terms of power, a basic 560ti or even 550ti will be comparable to the 8870M in this machine. Building it, or even buying one, will cost less than half as much as this machine at $1,699. For the same price you could get a gaming rig and an ultra-portable laptop, or even a laptop with 640M/650M for light gaming on the run. But all of this depends on how stationary you can remain. This worked great for me while I was in college and before I move in with my girlfriend (ugh ).

2. Semi-Stationary: You have time to play games, but you can't always make it to the office/basement. Other responsibilities means you often find yourself in the living room/couch. These could include children, nagging girlfriend (ugh ) or other reasons (small living quarters, etc.). You may also occasionally have business trips or a long distance relationship where you spend 1 week+ away from home. In this case a full fledged gaming laptop makes sense. Since you will not be in one position for long periods of time, but you also won't be carrying it back and forth on a daily basis, you have the ability to set it down on a table, desk, hotel desk, etc. for a week at a time, and game when possible. Sure the graphic capabilities are not nearing a top of the line desktop, but they are far from horrible either. At this point you are paying around 1.6K/1.7K for a real gaming laptop with good ventilation and most likely some weight and bulk. For this I would recommend a Clevo, Sager, Alienware, MSI, etc. type machine. Even Alienware m17x-R4 with a 7970M beasts the 8870M.

3. Mobile: You have time to play games, but only fleetingly. You have no safe and constant position in the house, you have meetings/class you need to take your machine to. Your going for weekend trips places, and you never have business trips that last more than a couple days. You spend almost more time in the plane than in your hotel room. In this case, light and mobile are the key. Sure you want to game, but graphics aren't trading off for the ability to relocate on the fly, and more importantly, sit comfortably with the laptop in your lap at multiple locations. In this case you get an ultra-portable with any graphics card. You play games on medium/low, and you're fine with it, because your laptop only weighs several pounds and its easy to close the lid and pop it back open on the fly. You no longer have time for the rig, so mobile is better. The games are still fun, just not ridiculously gorgeous.


The 3rd category I fall into now. Sadly I still want that graphical performance, but I'm just not sure its a possibility with current technology, and will honestly never be as games advance. I have a gaming rig in my basement, but rarely get downstairs to play. It makes more sense to get a reliable, portable laptop that can play some games with a lower end dedicated GPU than a monster gaming laptop. This is why I am interested in the Chronos, but honestly, have also considered an Asus ultra-book, or even a lower end laptop with dedicated graphics. I had thought about making my gaming rig portable (miniITX) so that I could locate it down/up stairs when I need to, or take it to a friends house, but that just sounds ridiculous, considering I would need to bring a monitor, keyboard, the machine itself and mouse. You could make do with a BT mouse/keyboard, visual pass-through to a tablet and a miniITX, but honestly that just sounds way too cumbersome and would take up a whole additional suitcase in itself.

NOW, I will say that things may be changing. Honestly, as a gamer, the most interesting device that's caught my eye recently is Nvidia's Shield. Now I can leave my rig anywhere in the house, and have a portable system with me where ever I sit, as well as having a gaming system with any TV I plug it into. That said, the trips to class, or G/F's parents house would still require a nice light laptop.

I am definitely not sold 100% on the Chronos, but I will definitely give it a shot. I also really like the UX51. Honestly my biggest gripe is that Haswell (along with AMD Tamash) will be out in the next year, and battery life and basic graphic performance will improve across the board. At that point I might be trading in whatever I buy for something else anyway.

Oh well, life's complicated .

 

Maybe I remember not so well, but one owner has said that display is much better than one used on Sony S15 (it uses same display of Asus U500/UX51) and for now I don't see negative reports from the 2 owners.

 

If I don't plan on using this for gaming at all (just coding, video editing, and some graphic design), would you recommend I buy this one? If not, I'd there a better option out there for a lower price. I mostly care about display quality, portability, and speed. Thanks people

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Honestly, the graphics card will only be important if you're planning to do any rendering or video editing. Intel's built in HD4000 works fine with Photoshop. At that point the bigger bottleneck is processing power, RAM and hard drive, which is also true for development purposes. I fall into the same boat as you, except I do game. If I didn't, any machine with an i5/i7, 8+GB of RAM and an SSD would be more than sufficient. You could probably do fine with any laptop with these specs. The biggest bonus of the Chronos is the graphics card, which based on your use cases, you might never really utilize. If anything I would definitely suggest with going with the lower model, to at least save money.

 

I'm currently extended-mobile. I've been on the road for three months straight now with all my stuff in storage. Between my photography bag and laptop bag, I'm already lugging around 45lbs through the airports. I'm debating if an extra 3lbs would really make that much of a difference and go with a real gaming laptop.

 

If you want the same 15 inch form factor, you could consider the HP Spectre XT Touchsmart 15.6 inch. It doesn't have a dGPU, but the screen is an IPS touchscreen that has received very good reviews. The build quality is also nice. But the major con of the machine is the poor battery life.

 

When you're traveling, do you usually spend a week+ at a time in a single location. If so, does your hotel/room have a desk and ample room for a gaming laptop? Do you want to be able to play while traveling?

 

Ordered 770Z7E-S01DE from Amazon with prime:
Samsung 770Z7E-S01 43,9 cm Notebook silber: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubehör

/edit canceled again, maybe those are returned devices. noticed they only have 1-3 in stock.
but they have new info: S01 has 4GB soldered +4GB added - no upgrade.

dunno if S03 description is wrong but amazon sells them with blueray. S01 has only DVD.

 

Not plastic, thankfully. The guy with the first unboxing video on YouTube confirmed that for me.

 

The "guy" is 8 years old. Someone else on this forum who bought it confirmed it feels plastic.

 

If it included all that I would also see the price bump as reasonable... but from the information ive seen (not a whole lot) the only definitive difference that ive found in the us its the graphics card. Where did you see that it had a bigger battery? one of my concerns is that the 8870 might require more power and reduce battery life over the 8770.

 

It shouldn't have a large impact on battery as the laptop will use the intel hd4000 mainly when on battery

 

It's usually for 1 week per location. I didn't want to game off my laptop until I put my gaming desktop into storage! I may end up not going with the Chronos and going to a Sager since I can get most of what I want with it.

 

I know, but I still think he'd be smart enough to know the difference between plastic and metal. And he was a little older than 8, I think

And I don't know where the confirmation of plastic is that you speak of...I've read every post on this forum for the past week and have seen none of that.

 

That Youtube Video says unboxing U3E - that's the ultrabook version.
The box label says 780Z5E (15 inch touch), so I wouldn't believe to much what he says

 

no one was offended. my remarks were meant to heed caution for consumers buyingt products from italy. therefore the comment was justified.

 

Well at that point it's really a comfort vs performance issue. Personally, I could never play with a gaming laptop actually on my lap, due to heat and weight. It was nice in college, when I could set it on a desk for an entire week, and only occasionally take it to class and such. I'd suggest finding a gaming laptop model in store sometime and just picking it up. If you can handle the weight than I'd say go for it!

 

Anyone know how big the battery is in this thing? It seemed to have a good battery when I played with it at best buy yesterday but I'd like to know how good. Did the last gen Chronos have good battery life?

 

From here:

 

I thought the higher end models use full body aluminum while the cheaper ones use a combination...or am I mistaken?

 

Any idea NP780Z5E when will be available in UK?

Whats difference between T01UK versus S01UK? please anybody advise

 

who would buy a laptop with soon-to-be standard hardware for over $2000?

 

good point! that was a concern of mine too. this is why i'm thinking about buying the 8770 now instead of the 8870. but i dont know yet.. need more time to think about this. but battery life is a huge requirement for me.

 

11 hours of battery life with hd 8870 and i7...interesting, cant wait for the real chronos to be out

 

Have to agree with Alchemist here. AFAIK the only difference is the 8770 vs. 8870 - the 1080p, HDD, and build quality remain the same (there might be a difference in RAM, 4 GB vs. 8 GB soldered in).

Purely speculating here, but I think some of the confusion re: build quality comes from a distinction between an "H" and "M" model of the new Series 7 Chronos, where the M model is seriously down on power and specs (e.g. 720p screen, plastic construction) and the "H" model is the one of topic in the thread, however only the 8770 spec has been released.

 

You can limit your FPS if you don't like power waste. That's what I do with my Desktop SLI System.
Vsync (60fps cap) = ~300watts , without 450-500w (100+ fps). It's a GTX570 + 3770K system.

For now specs are a mystery, even for shops. S03 17inch for example costs 150€ less but has blueray, while S04 costs more and has only DvD. S03 has Win8 standard, S04 has Win8 pro - but can't be that win8 pro makes such a big difference? Maybe S04 is full body metal and S03 is half plastic?

Damn you Samsung, what are you doing to me
Those things are already produced and out in shops - we need a comparsion chart ASAP !

 

How is an Ultrabook with 650M soon to be standard? Sure they exist, but they are definitely not standard and definitely not cheap. Add to this the fact that the UX51 comes with RAID 0 128GB SSDs, IPS 1080 display and a full voltage CPU and it has several advantages over this unreleased system (and it only costs around $1,800). I have a feeling the 650M will still beat out the stock 8870M GPU as well. It will definitely have better graphic switching and driver support.

For me it's still a tossup between the supposedly cheaper U500VX and Chronos 8870 once they're released.

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You don't need to limit the performance because there is already a limit of Intel GPU buffer so in every case you can't go over 60fps.

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Maybe that's because it's the 8770 model? Idk....

 

I think you are right.

 

I read something a few pages back about chronos throttling might cause the 8770 gpu to underperform... does the chronos throttle cpu/gpu?

 

Umm...you do know that the 8870 has a MUCH bigger battery, right? I think its' 90w vs. something like 40 or 50w on the 8770.

 

Amazon.fr (France) has written that's available soon and you can order now:
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/aw/d/B00B1RZ682/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1361475990&sr=8-1&pi=SL75

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Hello all

Can anybody confirm that new Samsung Chronos screen has better angles and better blacks?
Thank you.
Nick

 

It's funny how the mood on this forum topic has gone from one of genuine excitement and desire to one more of uncertainty, apprehension and nervousness - Samsung really need to release this soon - or at least announce release dates, otherwise lots of potential customers are going to abandon this laptop for something more readily available.

I for one have a couple of £k put aside for a high end laptop - I want it to be this one, but if I have to keep waiting, the competition is certainly starting to look tempting (maybe that's just the money burning a hole in my pocket - but it's going to get spent somewhere and I want it to be here!).

Personally, I'm interested in the highest possible spec - 16Gb RAM, largish SSD, Full HD Touchscreen, full body aluminium - that's 'aluminum', translated for the yanks ;-), 8870 processor, etc - whichever model that may be!? Preferably with a bit of change left over from my money for a nice bag to carry it (Samsung official matching bag would be nice - but doubtful!!) and an external Blu-ray burner.

 

It is possible, because 8870 does not have to work all the time and Intel CPUs are very efficient. Anyone knows how big power adapter will have this machine? I currently have the Series 5 Ultrabook and the little 40W power adapter is really cool...