Introducing The 2013 Series 7 Chronos with AMD HD8870M!

Samsung is just eating up my wallet. First the Galaxy Note II a few months ago, then their 27" 2560 x 1440 PLS monitor a few weeks ago, and if this laptop doesn't have any major heat, fan, or touchpad issues, I'm sure Samsung will be taking my money for this as well.

 

Samsung and Google overlords anyone?

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I wonder if the 8870m would be able to run games at native res on your fancy new 2560x1440 monitor?

I also switched from iPhone to Galaxy S recently, it's got a beautiful display.

 

Yes, I read about 'Haswell' too. But where did you read that only the dual core ulv will have the GT3?

 

It looks like a re-work of IntelliMemory which is already available (and many people uninstall when they discover what is swallowing their RAM). such software, could, however, make sense is there's 16GB or more of RAM and only 6GB getting used.

John

 

Only if there is a display port

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My understanding is it has HDMI 1.4 (max resolution is 4096×2160), but I don't think the 8870m could handle recent games at 2560x1440.

 

I say, I say mister, why the animosity against having a display port? Apparently the 'low end' S5U has it but the chronos does not?
And what about WiDi? Does this come default with a CPU of such caliber?

 

And why the heck does it have a VGA port?

For corporate types doing presentations on super old school projectors?

 

I agree that the VGA port is superfluous. The Series 9 has Samsung's micro-VGA port plus a micro-HDMI port and the dongle for the former is more expensive than the HDMI-VGA adapter so no one ever uses the VGA port. I suppose their logic for providing two ports is that some people want to use two external display devices but DisplayPort would provide much more flexibility.

John

 

Yes, it's the same "problem" of the U500. Apparently Asus nd Samsung don't like display port. About the hdmi 1.4, in theory it should support high resolutions, but it seems that it actually does not (at least from what I've read about U500). Hopefully it's only driver related and someone will fix it sooner or later

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Not sure whether anyone posted this already but it gives quite a good overview of the series 7 chronos and ultra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeTgVQ_2-nk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

It's a video made by linus from linustechtips. He also confirms that the series 7 ultra will come with a pls panel and 256gb ssd.

 

Exactly. And they dare call themselves business laptops? They don't even have an all in one mega slot (dock connector) like the Lenovo Thinkpads have since years. You need some silly USB 3.0 based 'docking station' - driving every port via software, rather than having actual hardware based docking. Just look at the bottom of a T500 or T510 and you will understand what I mean.

Correct. With DisplayPort you get (passive) HDMI for free, and DisplayPort to VGA converters are dime a dozen.

[Scene: At Samsung Headquarters]
Product Engineer: Guys, how about adding some current ports like a DisplayPort?
Product 'Strategy' Guy: Hey, slow down there now pardner, what will we then show as innovation when we release the new Haswell based laptops. Let 'em have decade old VGA ports.
[End Scene]

 

Until now I had never seen someone trying to bend a notebook in this way

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Lol that's what I was thinking. I was scared for a moment that he'd break the thing. Shows that it's pretty sturdy though.

 

He really needs to learn how to use Sony Vegas Movie Studio or something for edits.

 

OMG.... I officially don't care about the plastic bits anymore That thing is as sturdy as they get wich is exactly what i was looking for.

 

Told ya plastic can be well built

Anyway I looked up a bit the GPU and can someone confirm the HD8870 will perform the same as the AMD Radeon HD 7870M - Notebookcheck.net Tech or better depending on optimisations ?

 

Some say the 8870m will actually be a little slower than the 7870m. Not much though and still the most powerful gpu I have ever seen in a really thin laptop.

 

I was reading it was possible a rebranded HD7670M from this thread: AMD 8000M Series To Debut at CES - Page 3 - AnandTech Forums

I hope not

 

That's like selling a 6970 as a 8990. I hope it's not true, notebookcheck says a little bit different things so let's hope...

 

Maybe they want to be 100% sure nobody will ever use their laptop with an Apple monitor

According to this graph, the 8870m completely blows the Nvidia 650m out of the water when running Skyrim, Crysis 2, BF3 and Sniper Elite V2. (Granted it was put together by AMD so may be a bit biased)

 

Notebookcheck:

 

Note how that graph does not start at 0 on the y-axis. So only 1.4x in the very best case?

 

Notebookcheck doesn't made any test, so this is only a speculation, but maybe it's true or maybe not.
AMD instead has published that comparison, for sure it has made some test on 8800m series
I don't know if it's reliable, but why they have to publish something that when 8800m series is out in the market can be easily contradicted it.

 

That's fine with me, the other laptop I'm debating has a GTX 660M and I'd rather have the lighter weight. But a 660M doesn't seem like like that graph is accurate...

 

because it's a comparison with GT650m, so value 1 means "equal to GT650m".
IMHO 1.4x means 40% faster.

 

I know, I misenterpreted it the first time I saw it.

 

The greatest improvement seems to be a score of 1.7, or allegedly 70% better performance for Skyrim at 1080p with 0xAA, 8xAF and "high" quality, compared to the same settings using the 650m.

 

That's actually very good but we do have to take this with a big grain of salt until someone else than amd benchmarks the 8870m.

But still, hat's better than a 660m . It would beat the razer blade (for a lot less money probably too)! I have been looking a long time for something like this. A very mobile, beautiful laptop that can game very well and doesn't look a gaming laptop that is thick, flashy and bulky.

 

My sentiments exactly - fingers crossed that it can perform as well as AMD claims!

 

If it does, all I need more is a little saving and this will be my laptop of choice. I have been looking at the y500 whit dual gt 650m's for a long time because I did not want a really thick sager/msi/aw laptop. Although the 650m sli will probably beat the 8870m fairly easily the chronos is just the perfect mix (for me, that is) between performance and mobility while still looking great.

 

Any news about avalibility? both for the chronos and ultra

 

There was a video were a samsung rep said that the chronos would come out around march/April.

Please read the thread next time, I've already posted and then answered questions about this a few times.

 

I am in the market for a new laptop. The HP Spectre touchsmart 15t-4000 or the Samsung new Chronos 7 series 700ZE are the options. Which one do you guys recommend?
The advantages that I see with the new Chronos 7 are 1TB storage and long battery life. The Video card is not important to me. The advantages of HP is current availability. I do not know when the new samsung chronos will be available. If it is couple of weeks, I can wait for the Chronos.

 

If the video card is not important, I'd suggest to go with whichever is cheaper. The 8870m is overkill unless you would be gaming on the laptop.

If long battery life is the most important concern, maybe consider a few other models with integrated graphics or ULV.

 

If they can get 11.5 hours on the new Samsung series 7...

Does that mean when Haswell is fitted in this.. It'll get like 20+ hours?

 

Sadly no.

Apparently haswell uses more power than ivy bridge does when it comes to quad core processors.

47w for haswell vs 45 for ivy I think.

It was on this thread a few days ago I think.

 

Really? So power-wise, ivy is better when it comes to quad cores?

Makes me not want to wait for haswell, since the "great" IGPU in Haswell doesn't really matter to me.

What do you think about this? Should one still wait for Haswell because of improved IGPU, BUT increased power consumption or not?

 

I'm not really sure.
I don't know how much of a difference those two watts make. Haswell will be slightly faster, and will probably run slightly cooler.

I am considering waiting for haswell for two reasons:

1) The possibility of a laptop like the chronos, but with a screen that can move in a way to become a 15" tablet(either something like the helix or the yoga)
2) The new way to interact with computers that Haswell is bringing. Imagine having a laptop with Leap built in? Or eye-tracking built in? It would be pretty cool.

I'm hoping that by the time the chronos comes out, we know(roughly at least) what the initial haswell lineup will look like. I would be happy to wait an extra 2-3 months for haswell if I knew that something good was coming, but I dot want to just on a hope!

 

This is a great article about Haswell. The intro is pretty interesting as Anand goes into some discussion about how Apple really pushed Intel in the igpu space.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6355/intels-haswell-architecture

The IGPU improvements mean more power efficient ultrabooks with better gpu performance. This would support high resolution type displays in super thin and light form factors. The most obvious being a MacBook Air w retina display.

I'm sure Haswell will also be much more powerful in general but it sounds like Broadwell will really be a huge leap in performance.

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Hah, Just went I bought my 17.3'' Chronos
Well at least the 17'' comes with Ivy Bridge and almost everything this refreshed model has. 6-8 hours of battery life is good enough for me, especially for a 17'' laptop.

 

The headline maximum power is irrelevant to maximum battery run time which is based on low CPU usage. (Running the CPU at full load on battery will drain the battery in less than 2 hours).

Normally, each new generation of Intel hardware improves the idle power efficiency.

John

 

here Samsung Notebook Web Contents you will see already, four models with these tags:
770Z5E - 770Z7E - 780Z5E - 570Z5E
Hope help to clear some points...

it seems that:
770Z7E : has the dvd slot in, here a shop that sell and have photo (also with awesome optional: SSD, 12GB ram, etc...): https://www.notebook.de/samsung-serie-7-chronos-770z7e-s01-core-i7-3635qm-240ghz-win-8-p-53298
AND IN DESCRIPTION.... MATTE DISPLAY !!!!! WOOOOW but it's the 17.3" version.

780Z5E : no hits

570Z5E: it start show in some e-commerce sites, but no clue about specs

 

That is what they always say. IMO it is all marketing. Before Ivy it was said that Haswell will have a huge leap in performance.

 

I don't get it, how the hell do they fit a DVD burner in an 0.82" chassis, especially with 8870m and quad i7? Or does "DVD burner slot in" not mean that it includes optical drive?

The price is not bad, however, €1249

EDIT: nevermind, clicked on the detailed specs and I see this 17" model is significantly thicker than the 15" model, 25.4mm (1.0") thick

 

well, if you look the 2nd image, on that shop, it's clear that have dvd burner slot-in included... but it's the 17.3" (weight 3kg).
Look also dimension: 405,7 x 261,85 x 25,4 mm

 

I asked to the Official Samsung Italia Facebook's Page any news about the release date of the new Series 7 Chronos and... below their answer!!!



Translate: "The new Series 7 Chronos and Ultra will be available in Italy from FEBRUARY"

 

That's funny! I've been debating on the Razer Blade too

 

I also asked Samsung Norway on Facebook and got the same answer: from february. I suppose february is the release date in most European countries