Introducing The 2013 Series 7 Chronos with AMD HD8870M!

Guys, no review no party ;-)

 

Hope US gets it in FEB too!

Just in time for tax return!!

Woohoo!!!

 

Hi,
I'm new here but I follow you for a long time, especially this discussion.

Inaugurate my first post with the price list of German and Italian models seen today in the Contents.

NP770Z7E-S01 (17,3" with i7, 8870M, 8GB, FullHD Matt, 1TB):
1299€ - Italian: Notebook NP770Z7E-S01DE/ i7-3635QM 8 GB Samsung - Notebooks
1249€ - German: https://www.notebook.de/samsung-serie-7-chronos-770z7e-s01-core-i7-3635qm-240ghz-win-8-p-53298

NP 570Z5E-S04: (15,6" i7, 8870M, 1TB, HD Matt):
999€ - Italian: Notebook NP570Z5E-S04DE/ i7-3635QM 8 GB Samsung - Notebooks
999€ - German: Samsung NP570Z5E-S04DE Notebook NP570Z5E-S04DE/ i7-3635QM 8 GB - NP570Z5E-S04DE de Notebooks Laptops billiger notebook.de

NP770Z7E-S04 (17,3" i7, 8870M, 12GB, Full HD Matt, 256GB SSD)
1889€ - Italian: NotebookNP770Z7E-S04DE/Intel Core i7-363 Samsung - Notebooks
1759€ - German: Samsung NP770Z7E-S04DE NotebookNP770Z7E-S04DE/Intel Core i7-363 - NP770Z7E-S04DE de Notebooks Laptops billiger notebook.de

NP770Z7E-S02 (17,3" i7, 8870M, 8GB, Full HD Matt, 128GB SSD)
1679€ - Italian: NotebookNP770Z7E-S02DE/Intel Core i7-363 Samsung - Notebooks
1569€ - German: Samsung NP770Z7E-S02DE NotebookNP770Z7E-S02DE/Intel Core i7-363 - NP770Z7E-S02DE de Notebooks Laptops billiger notebook.de

NP 570Z5E-S03 (15,6" i5-3230M, 8850M, 8GB, HD Matt, 1TB)
1049€ - Italian: NotebookNP570Z5E-S03DE/Intel Core i5-323 Samsung - Notebooks
1019€ - German: Samsung NP570Z5E-S03DE NotebookNP570Z5E-S03DE/Intel Core i5-323 - NP570Z5E-S03DE de Notebooks Laptops billiger notebook.de

NP770Z5E-S02 * (15,6" i7, 8870M, 8GB, Full HD Matte ->( because isn't touchscreen), 1TB)
1569€ - http://www.notebook.de/samsung-np770z5e-s02de-notebook-np770z5e-s02de-i7-3635qm-8gb1-p-53514

*I'm not sure of the characteristics of this model because I took the features on this website: http://diskontcomputer.com/Systeme/Notebooks/Samsung_Notebook_NP770Z5E-S02DE__I7-3635QM_8GB(1__DC_737264.html that shows the price of 1449€ and are older than those who have come out in the last hours.

All prices include VAT.

 

No one of these is the notebook of this thread, they are almost all 17" version and the 15" version are series 5 not series 7.

 

That explains those extremely low prices!

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No, if you look at the contents, under the heading "Series 7" you can read "770Z5E - 770Z7E - 780Z5E - 570Z5E" and these are the models that I linked in my previous post.

 

I have seen you that you have edited your post adding 770Z5E, that is the notebook that we are waiting, even if we need more info about 780Z5E that seems a 15" too.

Price of notebook.de is a little to high, there are almost 2 Austrian online store that have much better price:

Notebook NP770Z5E-S02DE /I7-3635QM 8GB(15,6") FHD/AMD Radeon HD 8870M

Notebook NP770Z5E-S02DE /I7-3635QM 8GB(15,6") FHD/AMD Radeon HD 8870M 2GB/ 1TB /ohne/ Win8P 64B

So 1400€ seems the right price for the version without touchscreen and SSD, but you can find even someone that ask 1700€ for the same notebook:
http://www.grosch-edv.at/shop/?file=productdetail.htm&ref=geizhals&sku=886H657

 

I also look forward to the 770Z5E because a 17" is too big for me and I would like a powerful graphics card.

Why aren't considered "Series 7" models which I linked in my previous post?

 

Most of them are series 7 but 17" version and other are series 5 like NP570Z5E

770Z5E is the 15.6" version.
770Z7E is the 17.3" version.

Unfortunately many stores are not so accurate in their descriptions.
I think that many of us are interested in a 770Z5E model and its variant (with or without touchscreen and with or without SSD).

 

Ok, thanks for this tips

 

Same here! Never particularly cared for the special touchscreen with extra buttons, I was only interested in the Blade because it is thin and portable, with decent graphics card (Nvidia 660m). I think the the Chronos "H" with 8870m and even thinner, more portable form factor (and much cheaper price tag!) completely blows it out of the water.

 

How come that a 17˝ version is almost 150 EUR cheaper than the 15˝ model with the identical configuration. I would expect it to be the other way around (or am I missing something here?).

https://www.notebook.de/samsung-serie-7-chronos-770z7e-s01-core-i7-3635qm-240ghz-win-8-p-53298

Notebook NP770Z5E-S02DE /I7-3635QM 8GB(15,6") FHD/AMD Radeon HD 8870M

 

Aren't they being sold at different stores?

 

Yeah I was wondering about that too. Any site that lists the 17,3" version offers it for €100-200 less than the 15,6" with the same specs.

 

Both german and Italian store offer 17˝ model 12XX EUR

NP770Z7E-S01 (17,3" with i7, 8870M, 8GB, FullHD Matt, 1TB):
1299€ - Italian: Notebook NP770Z7E-S01DE/ i7-3635QM 8 GB Samsung - Notebooks
1249€ - German: https://www.notebook.de/samsung-seri...-win-8-p-53298

While this site

Notebook NP770Z5E-S02DE /I7-3635QM 8GB(15,6") FHD/AMD Radeon HD 8870M

has the best price for a 15¨ model we have found so far.

 

I got all excited about this thing for a bit, but then I realized something: Anandtech tested the Haswell GT3e as being just about the same speed as a GT 650M. Notebookcheck says the 8870M should perform about like the GTX 660M.

Wouldn't it be nice to have all the performance without all of the battery waste, heat, and driver suckage of a dGPU? We're only talking about a 10% difference here - unless AMD pulls something out of their hats with the 8870 it doesn't seem to make a ton of sense...

That is, unless Haswell is delayed for an extra 6 months.

 

They ran the test with a 650m and gt3e with the same sttings, they both handled the game but framerates were not mentioned so nobody knows how the two compare. The 650m could have had double the fps and you wouldn't easily spot the difference.

 

In fact there is any data about this test, any info about game setting or resolution.
Keep in mind that GT3 is only for ULV dual core CPU, there is no space for GT3 that have even embedded ram on the same chip with a Quad Core CPU.

 

exactly, aside that the tdp is a measure of how much heat you need to dissipate, not how much power the chip consumes.

aside that haswell has a new power state (mix between idle and active) that should improve the battery life coupled with the new improvements in terms of arch.

in terms of power its around the same thing that intel always does, meaning 5-15%


On a side note the GT3 is not only reserved for ULV cpus.

On another note the video comparison of the GT3 performance with the edram against the gt 650m is well... problematic, while still interesting, its not a set in stone thing, without numbers we are clueless to what the performance really can be.

On another another note the performance of the 7870m pro version, meaning the firepro m6000 was around the performance of the 7770, so guess how much more the performance is compared to the 650m, AMD is not entirely wrong on this one.

 

I'm sorry but I can't follow. Are you talking about the 650m vs the 8870m or the 650m vs. haswell igpu?

 

Haswell GT3 vs Nvidia GT650m

 

Quote from the anandtech article:
"The video below shows Dirt 3 running at 1080p on both systems, with identical detail settings (High Quality presets, no AA, vsync off). Intel wouldn't let us report performance numbers, but subjectively the two looked to deliver very similar performance. Note that I confirmed all settings myself and ran both games myself independently of the demo."

That's very subjective so I have no idea what to think.

 

Ok, but what happens with others settings or others games? (Maybe the GT650m could be much better than GT3e, or maybe not, we don't know it)
Are you interested in a ULV Dual Core?
If yes you should wait at least 6 months to buy an Ultrabook with Haswell with GT3e (I imagine that "e" means embedded ram, only this model seems have the performance comparable with a discrete GPU).
Also there are several version of GT650m, for example in rMBP it has clock of 900MHz, while other version like that used in Asus UX51 start with 735MHz.
Has Anandtech made some typo? Because I can't find any Asus UX15, are they comparing with UX51 (aka U500VZ)?

 

For now I only care about how the 8870M runs Skyrim!!! haha

 

No I'm not interested in haswell igpu's or their ulv cpu's. I just wanted say to A_Grounded_Pilot that the test in the article he posted from anandtech doesn't really say that the gt3(e) is as powerful as a 650m because it is far too subjective. I also think the 8870m will be a lot faster than that igpu.

I'm sorry if my posts are confusing, english is not my native language.

 

ehm.... Haswell... 650m.... I don't interest, write in another topic !!!
Here, we speak of our Samsung new chronos 7
I will wait now a notebookreview analize
Love to see that 15" has matte display, and it seems that it's priced 999€ the 1TB version; Change that 1TB with an SSD (samsung 840pro), you will have a beast at 1200€ !!!

 

Sorry to dissapoint you but the link to a €999 series 7 a few posts ago was actually a series 5.

 

how can you say that ?
this one: www.sixpol.com has the Radeon HD 8870M and the i7-3635QM...
Am I missing something ? the S5 Ultra has ULV and hasn't the 8870... right ?

BUT I think, that 15.6" it's not the FHD version... too high specs for that price.

 

Do you understand that the product is much different from 770Z5E even in chassis?

 

Well, probably here you don't understand, that doesn't exist a serie 5 with 8870 and i7 3635QM, if you open this link: Samsung Notebook Web Contents, you will see that the 4th official code for Series 7 tag "nike2" it's 570Z5E !!! So it doesn't mean that it's a serie 5, it's only a VARIANT of this notebook of series 7 (PROBABLY, I think it's the 15" variant with an HD screen, not Full HD).
Hope it's clear now.

ps. MAYBE but don't know...:
first number mean 5 HD display, 7 FHD
second number mean the series (7...)
"0Z" don't know
and after, 5 or 7 means that it's the 15.6" or the 17.3" version

 

Man this is confusing.

 

Confusing it's the usual work of these big trademarks.
Hope will be clear very soon all variants available.

 

You are talking about this:


But you have right it's called series 7, it uses a 1366X768 panel but it's expect Core i5 rather than Core i7...
Even the materials of chassis seems different from 770Z5E:

 

So this is the "M" version? With 8870m too?

 

Maybe is better to wait some official info from Samsung, because many online store are not so accurate in their descriptions

 

I agree. I'm impatient though because it seems such a good laptop.

 

AMD claims the Skyrim performance will be more than 70% better than the Nvidia 650m

 

Is it me or did they run that test with very low settings? I hope the 8870m can play bf3 on high in 1080p.

 

+1

waiting to see more from this lappy

 

Yeah materials are different I think also, but the intel it's an i7:
Notebook NP570Z5E- S04DE = i7 but HD ??!! :-(
Samsung NP570Z5E- S03DE = i5-3230m but FHD ???!! www.innova24.biz

 

That's not logical indeed. But the line up of this model is very unclear. When we are patient we'll get to know what versions will be available.

 

Because the version "NP570" can mount i7 or i5.
The only differences between the two versions are the shell (plastic in one case, aluminum in the other) and the display.

 

Yes, the settings were all very specific. I assume they tried every possible setting configuration and those where the ones with best framerates compared to the Nvidia card.

As for Skyrim, it runs fine at 1080p on my old hp envy with 5830m with all settings maxed except using FXAA instead of MSAA, so I imagine with the 8870m it should probably run with maxed settings and 8xMSAA or so. Not sure about BF3 but hopefully the performance of the 8870m will be somewhere in between 660m and 670m.

 

Yeah the 660m already handles games pretty well, I have seen video's of people playing battlefield on ultra on 1080p (without anti-aliasing probably though). So if the 8870m only beats that slightly it will still be crazy performance for such a thin laptop.

 

Will both versions 15 inches "H" and 13 inches ultra have PLS displays or it is only the Ultra !?

 

Both are confirmed to have pls panels.

 

Ok I am waiting now )) Samsung take my money plz

 

I hope there aren't any deal breakers...Asus let me down with the ux51vz.

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How good is the 8850? Any Information about the Performance ?

 

When do people think reviews will come?
Assuming it get's released early February, let's say the 10th(Random example), would a review be out on th 10th? A week later? A month later?
Like, what's the norm for highly-anticipated laptops? Will reviews start surfacing on weird Chinese forums?(it happens)