Samsung ATIV Book 9 Plus - NP940X3G

That's only low-end TVs where buyers don't expect the best picture anyways. Pretty much all high-end TVs will be glossy.

 

Is it just me, or are internet searches for "Samsung NP940" generating a lot more hits today? Just saw the K02US part show up at Macmall, of all places.

I'm thinking we will ether be able to pre-order or order the 9+ during the week.

 

pure nonsense

 

Has not been confirmed yet, but definitely expect it.

 

I don't expect it unless Samsung or somebody figures out how to make a matte touch screen that won't be ruined by fingerprints. Lenovo says they have a matte screen on the x1 touch but people don't think it really is. If they do matte now without touch they will break the Intel credo of Haswell based ultrabooks must have touch. If they had wanted to do that they would have announced it a month ago along with everything else.

 

Well, some of "us" do too. Then we may sometimes choose to go outside.
Sorry, but that was a silly and condescending comment on your side. I am an academic researcher and I work in various environments. Even at home I like to have some sunlight coming into the room, while FACING the window -- and I can still see reflections on my glossy devices. A 600 nit IPS panel on my ASUS Transformer Infinity (far from being on the low end) is like a mirror in the sunlight, while the only device I can use comfortably under these conditions is my old low-brightness Samsung external LCD, which is far from S9s' panels.

And when exactly have you last used a matte display? Have a look at one in real life, because the X3E's display might be worth rethinking your position on that.
A glimpse is here, but I'd really recommend GOING OUTSIDE and looking at one IN PERSON!

EDIT: took out some harsh flavour

 

I am happy to be wrong, so proove it

 

Instead of matte finish, OEMs should try do some engineering and come with a solution to light reflection. Nokia managed to increase readability in their screens by adding a pair of filters which help to reduce the amount of ambient light that the screen reflects. You can read more about Nokia Clear Black here.

 

I have to agree, my lumia 920 works great outdoors.


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Glossy DOES indeed mean higher contrast and better viewing angles; great for movies and games, particularly in rooms with controlled lighting. Matte DOES indeed mean the display can be used in sunlight without one's own reflection dominating the picture; great for working outside or when bringing the laptop to coffee shops or meeting rooms with lots of windows.

Those are facts.

The preferences of each user, on the other hand, are merely, well, preferences, and depend on individual needs. I particularly like the matte display of my own NP700Z3A because I can use it anywhere (I'm in Florida). The glossy display of my main laptop (an old and otherwise excellent HP HDX18) prevents me from using it in many settings, which has been a major issue. But that's just me, others will have different priorities.

There is nothing wrong with having this discussion. But please keep the tone civilized and respectful. That goes for everybody. If you've never had a chance to review our forum rules, this would be a great opportunity. The first paragraph in particular:

Now please carry on. It's a great crowd here in the Samsung forum, we've had many discussions about contentious subjects in the past, and hardly ever have to issue warnings or infractions. Thank you for keeping it that way

 

Sorry, I shouldn't have stated my preferences that way. I can see how it sounded insulting. Admittedly, I don't really use my laptop outdoors, but I do agree that if I did, I'd definitely want an outdoor-friendly screen.

And yes, my work laptop is a matte screen (a Dell Latitude) which happens to be a pretty crappy screen IMHO; but I don't think it's representative of all matte screens. As you mention there are some nice looking matte screens out there, and everyone has seen really crappy looking glossy screen.

All I wanted to say is that nobody has invented a perfect screen surface that doesn't reflect any ambient light while perfectly letting the screen's light through unaffected. Until that happens, nobody can claim that one type is always better than the other. As I mentioned previously, it's a matter of environment and personal preference.

I think the diagrams in this article do a good job of explaining the tradeoffs between the two: Matte and Glossy Monitors – A Clear Difference

 

Interesting... absorbing the ambient light sounds preferable to reflecting scattered light. Assuming those extra filters don't affect the picture being emitted, that sounds like it would work even better outdoors than a matte screen.

 

On the matte - glossy debate I find it interesting that Samsung have released the Book 9 Lite with both options (and a massive price difference). Perhaps their motive is to be able to show Intel that there is a big market in the Ultrabook format for matte non-touch screen.

John

 

Reflection issues aside I read that matte panels are more comfortable for long periods of document viewing - less headache inducing and strenuous on the eyes.

Is that true?

 

Yep. Finding 2 models this morning for pre-order in Sweden.

Samsung 980Q3G 13.3" QHD+ (3200x1800) and Samsung 940X3G 13.3" QHD+ (3200x1800) with expected delivery 29 of Aug.

 

Do you have a link?

 

Komplett.se - Samsung 940X3G 13.3" QHD+ (3200x1800)

Komplett.se - Samsung 980Q3G 13.3" QHD+ (3200x1800)

 

Safe bet that real dates/availability details are announced this week.

Now to return the Sony Duo 13 I bought, and the Macbook Air. Oh yeah, and the Xperia Tablet Z.

Forgot one, the Sony SVP13.

 

I find that particularly true, although I'd say reflections have a lot to do with it (you don't have to focus that hard, so you can look at the screen for longer with the same effort). Perhaps also having less light shining in your face fatigues eyes less (it's worth adjusting these as lighting conditions change, especially in the evening, since light affects melatonin's production which is reponsible for falling asleep).
But all of this is probably user-dependent. One thing to never forget is: blink

PS I haven't compared X3E's contrast and color accuracy side-by-side with another screen (I just got to play with it at the store along with the Vaio Pro), but in the reviews it shows that X3E's new matte display is actually comparable in those respects to glossy ones, so I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were someone who likes watching movies, while this is clearly not a movie production studio or gaming device due to obvious reasons. And as we're discussing Samsung Series 9 here (both 9 and 9+), I don't see why people would strongly prefer a glossy screen in it, else than for the touchscreen added value (for some).

 

Yep me too. I need some money so my MBPr and my Ipad retina is up for sale now. Anyone? Realy trying to force my 900x3c and my HTC One on my brother or sister at the moment too.

 

The 9+ is still shown by Amazon UK as 17th Aug (it's been there for several weeks).

I would expect them to have been notified by now if 17th is no longer realistic.

John

 

Yeah, the standard OEM story is not to announce dates in case they miss something. At this point, I'd be happy to pre-order an 8GB model (I canceled the one I had on Amazon).

And was serious on the return comments I made earlier.



I think I may require professional assistance for my gizmo lust problem.

 

#567 whats the difference between thoese two listed model?

 

980Q3G is Ativ Q.

 

Any news on the 8/256 GB version?

 

So the Samsung ATIV Book 9 Plus will be available starting August 18.
Samsung Launches ATIV Book 9 Plus, ATIV Tab 3

The only BIG problem for me is that they are only mentioning the 128GB iCore 5, I'm now wondering if the 256GB iCore 7 version will come out later...

 

Oh and that 128GB iCore 5 version will only have 7.5 hr battery, I hope the iCore 7 version will at least come with 10 hr battery, but my hopes are really low right now...

 

Why would you even expect that?
Presumably it's not coming with a bigger battery and you can get maybe a quarter more under light load: AnandTech | The 2013 MacBook Air: Core i5-4250U vs. Core i7-4650U. And this is an optimistic scenario.

 

I know, that's why I said my hopes were really low, It was samsung that claimed 12 hr battery, but then to be off by fking 4.5 hours is awful, but I'll still wait for the official benchmarks for that iCore7 version.

 

I'm interested in the names of the SSDs used in NP900X3E (cf bendchmark at Samsung ATIV Book 9: Performance ) as opposed to the one that will be used in the plus, and their difference in performance I am not very fond of swapping SSDs in a newly bought notebook, esp. not in an 4GB RAM intermediate one. I'm also a bit concerned about the touchpad position: However, as opposed to what another user wrote, I'd prefer the touchpad to be more to the right side (near to the right hand), as it is the case with the Plus. I am not concerned about "unintentional touching"

 

Samsung reseller in Poland (Komputronik.pl) replied that there are two models coming:
NP940X3G-K01PL Full HD up to QHD touch
NP980Q3G-K01PL QHD touch
and they are not expecting any matte/non-touch version.

 

They are not expecting one at all or not yet?

 

The guy wrote "there will be no non-touch version".
My guess is they are using the same database SWUpdate uses, so they only know what is present there (the forthcoming models). I don't suppose they have any inside knowledge from Samsung. Even if they did, it would seem wise for them to advertise what's currently on.

BTW, going back to the 4/8GB RAM question -- there are many reports saying Windows 8 has better memory management than Windows 7. In this case 8GB RAM would be only needed for really heavy gaming and heavy graphics software. The 9+ is definitely not a machine for the former, while it's arguable if it's one for the latter. The only problematic scenario I see is running several VMs at once (I believe there are people who need it on an ultrabook, though it seems very marginal).

 

That or it is realization time for the matte crew. Touchscreens aren't a gimmick and they won't be going away.

If you like matte, and I understand why you do, it is best not to wait. Efforts should be to find a suitable anti-reflection screen film. Control your own fate and whatnot.

 

I agree touch is not going away - in certain circumstances its great. I just have no desire for it and would rather have a lighter laptop and better battery.

Can anyone recommend a good quality anti-reflection film?

 

No one's saying they're going away, but there's no reason the two can't coexist. I don't see the business world turning to glossy touchscreens over night. Dell and Lenovo have already made plain their intention in regards to touch (that is, make it an option). HP will follow suit. If these three big players haven't bought into the Intel and MS doctrine, why should anyone else (unless they like losing sales for an option that is easy to accommodate). So no, if you don't like what Samsung is offering here I would wait or I'd buy something else. Not try to find some anti-reflective coating, anyone's who's tried a screen protector on their phone knows how well these things work out.
But Samsung isn't stupid, they just want to sell as many AB9+s as possible (this is a very niche machine after all) while at the same time clearing out their old Ivy stock. Intel/MS think that touch screens will resurrect slumping PC sales, but they won't. Home users have turned more to tablets/connected devices for their everyday computing needs, but the business world will require a PC for the foreseeable future.

 

I'm just saying that waiting may net you nothing. Wish in one hand, poo in the other, as it were.

 

I'm getting the X3E anyway. Not much of a difference. Just need these Crucial M500s 480GB to start shipping..

 

You won't regret it. Paid 1500 for my NP900X3E-K01US and worth every penny. Had it since Aug 1 and not a single issue (knock on wood) yet. Anyone can make a 3 lb 13" ultrabook. But the X3E is much more then that. At the impossible form factor of just over 2.5 lbs without sacrificing nothing. I don't feel the battery life lacks one bit considering the size, speed of this machine. Runs cool, quiet, bright amazing matte screen, excellent KB, no trackpad/KB issues. or wifi issues.... none. The best looking ultrabook on the planet earth.

Some would say it lacks ports. But it still has VGA, HDMI, SD card, Lan, and two USB. I use a BT mouse and when I need to just hook up my BD optical using an extender cable to reach other side for when I burn BD'rs. Otherwise, the drive will operate fine on just one USB. I've had my BT mouse, optical drive and an external toshiba HD all connected. Believe me, the lack of ports does not keep me from doing what I want to do. But its so extremely thin there is simply no room for another USB.

 

At the very least, it will net you considerable savings over the AB9+ launch price. I would at least wait until the reviews come out. But if you can't wait, then it's a more difficult decision. Are all those pixels worth it?

 

They don't tend to go down over time..just go look at the prices ox X3Cs on Amazon for examples of that.

 

Wierd! I bought my 900x3d for 7990 sek (799 dollar) my 900x4c for 8995sek (899 dollar) and both my 900x3c was 7999 with lether sleeve, hdmi cabel and wireless mouse included. Last week the 900x3e was 7995 sek too. These are normaly going for around 12490-13999 sek. So it´s almost half the price here in Sweden.

 

You can get an X3C for $900 on amazon now. Or for something newer, take a look at the X3E with i7 for $1500. I guarantee it didn't retail for that when it came out 3 months ago.

Amazon.com: Samsung ATIV Book 9 NP900X3E-K01US 13.3-Inch Full HD Premium Ultrabook (Mineral Ash Black): Computers & Accessories

 

USD/SEK = 6.5341 as of this moment. So SEK 7999 = $1224 and SEK 8995 = $1377. Of course some of that is VAT (25% moms) which is bound to be less in most other places. But even if you took out VAT entirely, it would still be $979 and $1101, respectively -- and most countries and US states charge some sales tax.

Still, even then, these are good prices

 

The X3E with i7 and 256 has always been $1499 and still is even on their site. The i7 128 is $1399 but sold for $1299 since day one from bestbuy and Amazon..probably others too. The X3C-A05 is selling cheap right now but the X3C-A01 which was the first is still almost the same price now as it was when it was released.

 

Yes amazon fluctuates, but deals are there to be had. The A01 is in limited quantities at this point, sold to people who can't stand W8. I've seen it right around $1000 as well awhile back. I think it highly unlikely the AB9+ will remain at $1400 for the next 6 months. And some of these ivy machines will give you almost the same performance without touch for a lot less.

 

It might actually be DOA if 8.1 doesn't do wonders with scaling. I hear it does but I am running a partition on my desktop with 8.1 and I don't see what it will do for desktop applications. Personally 1600x900 was fine for me on a 13.3 laptop although I have adjusted to 1920x1080 on a 11.6 Taichi set to 125%. I'm not sure 3200x1800 would be good at any standard setting.

 

Interesting...Amazon has the NP940X3G-K01US for pre-order at $1215.96 after dropping it from $1399..however you will never find it unless you saved the original link they had to it a few weeks ago. I'm not even sure you can order it if you only have the link in your history. I had it saved in my cart.

 

Amazon UK has pulled it off pre-order, the status is currently unavailable, I am not sure whether the have ran out of their allocation or Samsung is doing something else here.

 

Puzzled why pre-orders for i5/4/128 is/was up, but not i7/8/256. If they had different resolutions it could be related to Win 8.1, but it's not.