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    Samsung Series 7 Gamer NP700G7C with AMD Radeon HD 7970M/Geforce GTX 675M

    Discussion in 'Samsung' started by yknyong1, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. laptopper012

    laptopper012 Notebook Enthusiast

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    No, your doing an excellent job at explaining everything actually. thanks again

    I'm Kinda just reaching for possibilitys, I might still get the 7970m version when it comes out, now that I think more that's exactly what I plan on doing. I guess I just wanted to find out somehow if I'll be able to throw in the brand new nvidea or AMD card a couple of years down the raod if my 7970m is starting to show age by then. I'll just have to open up the 675m laptop that i have now and see whats inside. but damn that still leaves the motherboard issue......

    this sucks!
     
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    Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!

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    why you need more than the 675M to play games? most of the games run at max settings with that video card now if you just want power order a M18X R2 with Xfire 7970's like i did :D

    serious the 675M has power to run all the games at high detail and the bonus of this machine is the beautiful screen and refresh rate I don't know how much the version with 7970 will be but if is more than $300 over this model is not worth it you better order an Alienware with 2 GPU's in that case
     
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    But maybe some people want to future proof their laptop, and according to the stats & benchmarks the 7970m is worth the wait (apparently over 40% better in performance)
     
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    Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!

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    Make sense some people keep laptops for years I keep them weeks lol :D
     
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    How loud are the fans during gaming mode? Does it get very hot?
     
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    I would say for sure that there will be a 7970m version. My country's samsung official website posted not too far back that It will be available with the 7970m. I dont think they would just put that on their website to screw around with people. As far as the release date goes... I would give an educated guess of anywhere between two weeks and two months from now. If It's not out by then, I'm gonna be very pissed off that I waited all that time, and I bet a lot of other people will be too. There's no reason they couldn't have planned better to be closer to the front of the line for the new AMD cards. AMD is not innocent either, they claimed way earlier release dates and then kept pushing them back farther and farther, probably for some lame reason like they wanna sell all their old cards first, then now that they`re just coming out, they never made near enough of them, which is a very irresponsible business strategy, and poor planning. I, and I assume many other people, want only this one specific laptop, but for the first time I`m thinking of looking elsewhere, the least samsung could do for their loyal customers is give us an estimated release date
     
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    Yeah, you would think that they would want to be one of the first laptops that can run the new AMD cards, but they must be having some sort of problem, or doing what you said. Anyways, I hope it comes out early in the summer.
     
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    How long is the boot-up time and shut-down time?
    What Windows Experience Index score does it have? (1.0-7.9 in 5 different categories)
     
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    Can it run all modern games including BF3 at maxed settings and 120 hz?
     
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    Hi everyone, new member here and my first post!

    I have two questions I hope someone can answer. I have read through this entire thread (and elsewhere) and don't seem to have the info yet that I am wondering about.

    1. Has Samsung enabled this laptop to utilize the Optimus feature of the GTX 675M? On the Samsung website the sister model 7 NP700Z7C actually states that that one does support Optimus, but there is no mention of it on this model. I know that ASUS does not support Optimus on some of their new gaming laptops so I wonder if Samsung is doing the same thing. Can anyone confirm if this one does support Optimus?

    2. The other question is can you set this one up to use RAID?

    Thanks everyone, I'm buying a new laptop for our son for school and some of his lectures can be up to 4 hours long with no outlets in some classrooms so battery life is a consideration. Thank you!
     
  11. jake7778

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    This might not be completely accurate, because the laptop may vary, but here is the stats with the GTX 675

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

    Just scroll down to where it says game benchmarks.

    There is a newer version coming out that with the new AMD Radeon HD 7970m which is much better, and here are the stats for that:

    AMD Radeon HD 7970M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

    Anyways, It would be able to run most modern games, but maybe a little bit worse on the highest of the high end games, like battlefield.
     
  12. Infobits

    Infobits Notebook Guru

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    Hello all. I bought this new laptop from newegg.com and it is a very nice laptop. This is my first gaming laptop so I cannot really say how it compares to the other recent gaming laptops from Asus, Alienware, etc. But I am not really a gamer, just wanted a real fast pc to do all sorts of work with. The Nvidia control panel does not show any alternative video card other than the GTX-675 when I look at the 3D settings page. So I think that this means "No Optimus supported" on this laptop.
    The laptop is very fast and the GTX-675 video card is more than fast enough for just about everything. The LCD display is as everyone has reported so far, absolutely bright, contrasty and gorgeous! I went for this over the Asus G75 also because I knew Samsung has the best rep for LCD display technology and also because of the GTX-675 vs GTX-660/670 in the Asus G75 offerings. I am totally happy with this purchase with no regrets (other than all that talk of the faster AMD graphics version might come out soon).
    It boots up quickly as is but I still would put a SSD drive in there one day for even faster performance!
     
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    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    Boot-up and shut down times are dependent on what programs you have set to run. Not a good indicator of any kind of performance.. Unless you add a SSD, then you'll be pleasantly surprised.

    WEI also doesn't mean much of anything. Scores can change when you run consecutive benchmarks.. Someone can alter it to say whatever they wanted to do so.

    Ask for game FPS if you want an indication of performance.
     
  14. Infobits

    Infobits Notebook Guru

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    FWIW, I took a screen shot of my NP700G7C-S01us WEI and Nvidia 3D control panel. Trying to attach it here, hope it shows up. The hard disk rating of 5.9 limits this laptop's higher scoring (CPU=7.6, RAM=7.9, Graphics=7.6). Need a SSD drive to up it.
    For some reason this site's file attach upload section says my small jpg file is not a proper image file to upload and fails to attach. So I wrote in the WEI index numbers above for y'all referencing needs.
     
  15. Zeruel_82

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    So, an SSD will increase the total score from 5.9 to 7.6, that's impressive. Thanks for the info!
    I still can't believe why Samsung just won't offer this compter with an SSD option. I'm sure most people would have wanted this.
    Making a laptop that good, and fit it with ancient harddrives, unbelievable.
     
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    Manufactures like to delay their products to build up excitement to increase sales. Intel just did it with their Ivy Bridge and yet it was still released in april. If the sammy still doesn't have the 7970m by the end of the month, just get an MSI GT70.
     
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    Ok Infobits, thanks for checking.
     
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    No offence but I wasn't stating that as fact, I was just throwing out some possibilities. And as much as I'm not saying what I said is the god's honest truth, it sure is more likely than what you are saying... why would AMD wanna build up hype for a mobile graphics card, 99% of the time people can't even put in their own aftermarket cards into their laptops, and the laptop companies like samsung don't buy products based on hype, they would calculate those decisions coldly, and then see that this card is significantly better than any other mobile card in the market, and then decide on whether or not to put it in their machines. if they were planning on building hype(to the tens or hundreds of people who will actually buy the 7970m seperately), then why wouldn't there be even way more cards available when they released it, because they would have had time to manufacture all the cards that they wanted, thus the lack of cards like we're seeing, would not be the case. if anything that point just goes further to prove my side and farther from your side. Also, when I'm looking for the best GPU available I would just be taking steps backwards to buy the MSI GT70, it has a 670m and the samsung has a 675m.
     
  20. pdxing

    pdxing Newbie

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    Can someone tell me how easy it is to access the battery, do you have to pull off the back panel? If it's accessible from the outside, are there screws you have to take out or is it much easier? Thank you.
     
  21. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    You need to unscrew the base to get to the battery. See the photo here. Officially it is not a user-replaceable part but doing the swap isn't difficult for anyone who has a set of good screwdrivers and a little technical skill. Single-piece notebook bottoms help the structural strength while an internal battery dies not require the thick (= extra weight) casing.

    John
     
  22. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    But John that's the Z7C Chronos, not the G7C Gamer pdxing is talking about...
     
  23. John Ratsey

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    OK. I'll keep quiet on the subject of the 17" machines.

    John
     
  24. Infobits

    Infobits Notebook Guru

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    If you mean the little coin size battery that powers the CMOS and clock, then it looks like it is a pain in the butt to replace it as it looks like that battery is buried on the inside of the board under the keyboard side.
    The pictures posted at the Russian review site given by poster mcmikel a few pages back show the insides of the boards to a very similar laptop model to this NP700G7C-S01. (See page 45 of this thread!) the board with the battery is show here:
    http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2012/01/12/622780/s700g7a-inside-3.jpg
     
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    Thanks for trying John. I did see how difficult it is to change the battery on the Z7C Chronos and was wondering if was the same on this one. My thought was our son could just buy an extra battery and change it during class if he needed to, but after seeing how difficult the Chronos is I had to ask if this one is the same? Could someone just flip their computer upside down and see if there is easy battery access?

    I have one other question. Since this one does not seem to utilize Optimus, is there another way to manually turn off the dedicated GPU and just use the integrated graphics on the CPU processor? (really trying to make this one work for what he will need it for). Thanks!

    No, the main battery.

    My Toshiba laptop has 2 tabs you slide over and the battery pops out, no screws or need to take the back panel off. It takes 2 seconds. I was hoping this one would be similar...
     
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    FYI, all main power batteries on laptops are usually very easily removable with the flick of a couple of tabs as you described. The battery on this Samsung NP700G7C-S01 is no different... easily removed and replaced.
     
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    Thanks for the videos, looking forward to picking one of these bad boys up if/when they are released with the 7970M option. I believe a lot of people use Fraps ( FRAPS show fps, record video game movies, screen capture software) to do their screen recording and game performance benchmarking. They have a free-version that is limited and a full version for I believe $37.
     
  29. pdxing

    pdxing Newbie

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    Thanks Infobits. The sister model to this one, the new NP700Z7C-S01US (that John Ratsey mentioned a few posts ago) appears to be built so that you have to pull off the entire backplate to get to the battery, and it does not look to be an easy task. My concern of course was this one was designed the same way. Here is the video so you can see what I am talking about. Thanks again for the info!

    Samsung 7 Intel i7 3615QM Nvidia 650M 17" Laptop SSD & Memory Install by Paul Nelson - YouTube
     
  30. PubFiction

    PubFiction Notebook Consultant

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    Can some people who own these series 7 gamers do some key rollover tests?

    Open notepad and put your fingers on sdfjkl all at the same time. Then press them all down at once and repeat 5 times. Then press ENTER. repeat this sequence 10 times.

    Then hold down the left shift key and type The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

    Repeat the same with both shift keys.

    Finally just hold down left shift, E, then press space. The switch it up and hold shift and space and press E.

    Then do the same with S, D, F.

    Post the resulting text input here to see which keys it is not registering.
     
  31. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    One of the photos here shows the bottom and a removable battery. However, the trend for thinner notebooks is to place the battery inside so a separate battery casing does not add thickness and weight.

    We need an owner of G7C to advise whether there is a facility to disable the dedicated GPU in order to improve the battery time.

    John
     
  32. Zeruel_82

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    Ok, so if I replace one of the hard drives with an SSD, (and officially lose the warranty), then something goes wrong with the computer, and I switch the old hard drive back and send the computer to get fixed, are you guys sure they can't see somewhere/somehow that it has been replaced earlier and denies me the warranty?
     
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    This should be an Asus laptop! My g73 was the last laptop that was durable enough for me. My newer gt780 I really don't expect to last too many more months. The Asus had me with the plain clean look and hardly any lightsand quiet . My Msi gt780 has great performance and is about as upgradable as it gets. Probably could put in a HD7970M but it is very unlikely I will ever buy another MSI laptop. I look once and a while at Alienware but I don't want a matte screen behind another piece of glass and ugly looks.

    I am hoping to wait a couple more months and get a Samsung with 7970m but my MSI is acting up and shutting itself off. I need there stupid 4 way power switch like a hole in the head and same with all the color lights. Can you turn all the lights off even the one above trackpad? My perfect laptop would look a lot like the Asus g75. No lights, no glossy plastic but with a 7970m etc and a great screen.
     
  34. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Don't damage anything (make sure you have the right sized screwdriver) and you won't have a problem. The hardware service people tend to be more reasonable than the people on the end of the phone who make you jump through various hoops before agreeing that the equipment needs to be serviced (and often they are right - the problem is software, not hardware).

    John
     
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    buy clevo
    black clean simple design,no lights,no leds
     
  36. backdown00

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    For those that have this laptop - does it get loud at all during gaming? does the bottom get hot? I want a laptop for diablo 3 and GW2, but I do plan on using it on my lap.

    thanks all!
     
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    According to the Samsung rep that I spoke to online, you will NOT void your warranty by replacing the original drives in this unit as long as you keep the original drives and reinstall them when sending the unit for warranty repairs.
    It would be a deal breaker for me if I couldn't upgrade the drives.
    I have 2x 240Gbs OCZ Vertex SSD's that are collecting dust. They will be a perfect upgrade for this laptop's HD's.
    Also, apparently this sucker supports Raid 0 out of the box as well. I will turn my 2 SSD's into a Raid 0 array.

    Update:
    Just picked one up yesterday. Returning it to the store today.
    Raid 0 is NOT supported. Two Samsung reps two different answers.
    The build quality is not great, not even close to the standards on most other Samsung products.
    I will stick with Asus or Msi laptops (teaches me for trying something different).
     
  38. pdxing

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    Thank you sir, I'm going to order one.
     
  39. mcmikel

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    Last I read, the HM76 Intel chipset does not support Raid: AnandTech - Ivy Bridge Mobile Lineup Overview

    The NP700G7C uses the HM76 chipset.
     
  40. Instynct

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    Not at all, however I also use a laptop cooler.
     
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    Hi guys I have a small problem, I tried opening a new thread but somehow can't so I decided to put it here:

    My samsung series 7 gamer (NP700G7A) stops my desktop background slideshow whenever I switch to Game mode and back. The game mode has its own background and effects that I do want to keep, at the same time I want my wallpaper slideshow when in other modes. I thought maybe this is a bug that Samsung has not thought of? Because in Easy settings, you can only choose 1 desktop background and don't have a theme to start with in the first place. However, under the Win7 personalize setting, I unpacked my theme pack and it works just fine. Only the gaming mode somehow disables the slideshow and leaves the last wallpaper permanent. I really don't want to uninstall easy settings because it's really handy plus only it can handle the express cache. Is there anything I can do? Thanks in advance!
     
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    Which laptop cooler? My does not get hot, but it always help to get a cooler.

    I find it annoying that during games when you turn the volume up or down, part of that little icon appears in game. I was playing Portal 2 the other day and had everything maxed out completely. Gameplay was super fluid, but the fans really sped up.
     
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    When I said to get the GT70, I didn't mean now. It's going to come with the 680m when it's released. Can you believe the 7970m scores more points in 3dmark 11? But as ryzeki said "Please stop using P#### scores, they are not the indicator for GPU. A significant difference in CPU will always yield larger changes in P score and lower changes in GPU score. At least for vantage and 11." And the 7970m vs 680m thread is filled with nothing but speculation with next to zero actual information, as said from sarge_.
     
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    That's interesting, I think I'll call them and check just to be sure. Thanks!

    EDIT: I just phoned Samsung, and it seems (at least here in Sweden) that you lose the warranty by changing the hard drive yourself even if you switch back the old one, however, they also said that if you let a professional company do the change, then the warranty remains (yay!), so in my case, I need to buy the laptop and ssd, then take them both to a company called InfoCare and let them do the switch.
     
  45. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    The location of the battery is a valid concern. Perhaps you haven't looked underneath many of the newest products. This is the bottom of my latest notebook. Where is the battery?

    John
     
  46. Arai

    Arai Notebook Evangelist

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    For not trying and a new member you sound exactly like that.
    What goes around comes around, just sayin'...bro.

    7970m drools ;3
     
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    "The location of the battery is a valid concern."
    I wouldnt't expect a non-removable battery in a gaming laptop anytime soon. The size of the powerbrick should be a clue.
     
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    Does anyone who has the laptop have any experience with the recent models of Alienware and can compare the screen differences? I am strongly considering Alienware (either M17x or M18x) but really like Samsung products as I have three Samsung HD TVs in my home, as to me the picture quality was unbeatable.

    I'm just curious how the two brands compare on that aspect.
     
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    Are you purely just trying to troll? You basically don't own any of these, yet talk with such absolutes. The series 9 has the battery at the palm rest, nowhere near the vents in the back.

    Now that we know how good your intuitions are, you can stop complaining since asking about batteries it's a very legitimate question. The battery is part of the notebook, how is that off topic? Perhaps google search is a better source, but oh that's right... many of the search results will just bring you right back to this forum. And many of the people here are more knowledgeable than the samsung techs.

    If you're still somehow that annoyed at this discussion, then just simply don't read it. Or, how about you post the links to millions of galleries. For a new guy, you sure give off a pretty bad first impression. Just saying....
     
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    can You turn light on in your room next time when recording videos?
     
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