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    Samsung Series 7 Gamer NP700G7C with AMD Radeon HD 7970M/Geforce GTX 675M

    Discussion in 'Samsung' started by yknyong1, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    call BS on what you want, we have proof, check the aw m17x lounge and the game lounge, we have some people with the gpu, most are m17x, one is using a gt 683 and we are waiting for people on the clevo lounge to get it
     
  2. Zeruel_82

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    I phoned Samsung a few days ago, and yes, switching the hard drive yourself voids the warranty. I asked if they could switch it for me, but no.

    Very strange that changing a Hitachi harddrive for a Samsung SSD in a Samsung laptop voids the warranty if you ask me.

    Any advice? I really want this computer, but I think it's to risky to buy it without any warranty.
     
  3. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Many people do this without asking. The warranty is for the hardware provided by Samsung. Keep the original hard drive and put it back in if you need warranty service and don't damage anything while doing the swap.

    John
     
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    Ya there are a million things that will void your warranty on any product, the question is more how are they going to know? Unless they have a sticker under it that you must peal off in order to swap the hard drive I doubt they will know. You could also just buy it from amazon or some place with great service then up a storm if something happens.
     
  5. laptopper012

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    yeah you're probably really worried about wasting the employees' [time] with used items, etc. I guess that's why you kept saying earlier in this thread that you were gonna order the 675m version of the series 7 and return it when the 7970 version comes out right away. Yeah, cause that's not wasting peoples time and money, and it's definitely not giving them used items hey? Think about what your saying, Especially when you write things like "I can see myself dancing on the clouds". I can see you dancing on more than that. Geez, I hope you're a girl
     
  6. laptopper012

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    does the series 7 gamer have sata 3 compatibility? or does the computer just support sata 2, creating a bottleneck when i throw in a sata 3 ssd?
     
  7. miansi

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    2. According to MemoryExpress.
    Their reply:
    3. That's the question I've got too... I need laptop before July and either will go with GTX675M or will order Sager NP9150
     
  8. Drownigshrimp

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    Look at the scores for 580m sli right now. A single 675m is slightly better than a single 580m and if the 580m sli has a higher score than a single 7970m, then the 675m sli should be better than a single 7970. As far as I know, we don't live on mars and a bigger score means it is better performance wise.
     
  9. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    what scores are you talking about? Im talking about gpu scores from 3dmark 11, heaven bench, games, and so forth
     
  10. Speedy Gonzalez

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    I find a 3D emitter but I cant enable 3D I don't see the option on the control panel with latest drivers maybe with the factory ones?

    I don't really care about 3D to much but since I have the glasses and the emitter lets see if I can make it work :)
     
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    You will need a 3D software package to choose games/content to play in 3D. Samsung's user manual indicates a need for the not installed TriDef 3D portal. You can download and use the 14 day trial to test 3D capability.

    I installed the software but it does not auto detect a 3D monitor. You can manually select a default monitor setting like interlaced 1080p. Doing so clearly projects a 3D signal on the samsung but whether one get make glasses funtional with it is another question. I'm at work so can't try to use my samsung 3D glasses with my laptop. may have time to try it out later tonight.
     
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    This is exciting; buying a laptop without knowing it has 3D.
     
  13. Speedy Gonzalez

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    the tridef software only work with the AMD video card and samsung glasses but I have the Nvidia 675M so this should work with 3D vision the problem is that no matter what driver you install the 3D option never appears on the control panel and that is because samsung didn't include 3D support on the 675M vbios so I am thinking flashing the card with a Dell vbios it may work but like I said I am not interested in 3D at all just trying to make it work but not going to flash my card

    we didn't expect 120HZ at all and is the best part of the machine because the screen is beautiful and bright I am sure if somebody is brave enough to install a 7970m tridef is going to work the question is : can we make 3D vision work with a different vbios for the 675m?
     
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    I'll answer that if you tell me weather or not the np700g7c has compatibility to support a sata 3 ssd. So many people have asked this and no one replys.
    Let's hear it from someone smart or someone with the laptop. I'm sure nobody wants to go out and put in a $500+ sata 3 only to find out that it's still running at the speeds of the original sata 2 drives inside. also does anyone know if they're hitachi or seagate, I've seen people say both in this forum
     
  15. Speedy Gonzalez

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    I got this machine with no intention of using 3D the only reason I am trying is because I have the 3D glasses and the emitter if you really want to know if this supports sata 3 I can try for you I have a PM830 that i can try ;) hold tight

    Edit: there you go Sata 3 6GB support :)
     
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    Not trying to rush you, but when do you think you'll be able to test to se if it's 3D, if at all?
    Thanks
     
  17. Speedy Gonzalez

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    the GTX675M supports 3D with the right vbios we have 120HZ screen needed for 3D the only way to know if 3D works is if someone flash the card with Alienware GTX675m vbios something I don't want to do because if the Samsung bios don't read the card with a different vbios that's it end of the game lol

    now if someone know how to make the 3D options appear on Nvidia control panel without flashing new vbios I can try that because I have glasses and emitter :)
     
  18. laptopper012

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    Thank you very much :) I appreciate the effort. God bless

    I have a couple more quick questions if you don't mind..
    I have the chance to trade this new 256 GB 830 samsung ssd for any other sdd i want, but i don't really know if I want to yet, thats why I'm hoping you can help me, please and thank you

    ---how would you say the build quality is on these things, such as craftsmanship, reliability, durability, and overall quality components?
    Is it all top of the class? or at least among the top?

    ---is it easy to install the thing into the np700g7c? and easy to take the computer apart to get it in there?

    --- when you took opened the PC up to put this in did it look like getting to the gpu and possibly replacing it in the future might be a possibility with enough work and a day or so to spare?

    ---last but not least I cannot find out where it says on your post that the computer is sata 3 capable, I'm kind of a noob. I would just like to be %100 precent sure it will run the full capacity of sata 3. Now I would have sworn that it would only run at sata 2 because the stock hdd's are only sata 2 so I assumed that's all it would be capable of. It would be very helpful if you could put my mind at ease that this PC will run the 830 sata 3 ssd at it's full capacity with no 'bottleneck' effect. otherwise i will sell it while its still worth a few hundred and just use the decent 750 hdds. so yeah could you point out where it shows it?

    Thank you so much in advance, I'm sure if you can answer all these questions, me and everyone else on this forum would appreciate it very much.
     
  19. 15th Warlock

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    My laptop arrives tomorrow from Amazon, I have a few Nvidia 3D Vision glasses around, but they came with my monitors and are all IR, the emitter is built into the monitors, I have a couple samsung active shutter glasses but they came with my 2010 model TV so they are IR as well.

    After reading the instruction manual for this laptop online I'm positive it doesn't have an IR emitter for active shutter glasses, as all it mentions is pairing Bluetooth glasses for 3D to work.

    I have two theories, one, you just need a regular pair of Samsung bluetooth glasses like Speedy Gonzalez mentions, but I fear this won't work because I'm not sure the nvidia driver will correctly pair the glasses over Bluetooth as all current iterations of 3D Vision use IR glasses. I found a pair of legitimate Samsung Bluetooth glasses on Amazon for $19 and ordered them just to try and see if they work with my laptop, unfortunately these glasses ship from TigerDirect and won't be here until next Friday, so chances are Speedy Gonzalez will be able to try these theory before I do, I really hope it works as this would mean access to 3D with a minimum investment for the 675 model of this laptop, basically an almost free upgrade for us.

    My second theory is the video driver won't detect the Bluetooth emitter, or will just fail to get along with it, in that case, since the panel is 120Hz, all that's needed is a standalone 3D vision kit with the included IR emitter. It would only mean an investment of around $100 for the cheapest kit available, not bad considering you get to watch bluray movies and play games with reduced detail settings on an excellent panel, other 3D laptops start at higher prices and usually pack slower video cards than the 675 for their entry level models.

    Personally, I would hate for this to be the case as I already have 3 pairs of Nvidia glasses that came included with my monitors, and Nvidia doesn't sell an IR emitter by itself, beggars cant be choosers :p

    Either way this is a win-win scenario, and would make an already excellent laptop really awesome! Don't you guys agree?


    EDIT: I didn't read this post until after I posted mine, so you already tried using an IR emitter and 3d vision glasses?

    This doesn't bode well... Have you tried using the latest nvidia drivers?

    You can try to install and use nvinspector to access hiden control panel settings, you can find it here:

    http://downloads.guru3d.com/NVIDIA-Inspector-1..9.6.5-download-2612.html

    If that doesn't work, a bios flash will be needed, or perhaps there's a registry key that can be altered to enable the 3d settings on the nvidia control panel.
     
  20. Stormyy

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    That was an assumption.

    How do you like your lappy, is it better than the Asus G75 and MSI GT70?
     
  21. TheDrunkenClam

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    Okay so I just got mine last night. I was out running errands when ups attempted delivery so I had to go pick it up at 8pm when they off loaded the truck. The first thing I will mention is that anyone who spoke about how awesome the display is wasn't exhaggerating. That is the first thing you'll notice, and I guarantee you'll crack an ear to ear grin when you first power it on. The keyboard is very nice as well. I like how the keys feel when pressed. The sound system is not awful. I listened to some music and it sounded kinda decent. But its also not excellent, as this thing ain't pumping out tons of bass. Then again, I've never personally seen a laptop that does. I would have to wage that this bad boy is capable of 3D, it just needs some driver/BIOS updating from Samsung. I will be emailing them with that suggestion/demand later today. I suggest everyone who owns this to please do the same. With enough outcry, they'll do it. I did turn on 120hz and nearly crapped my pants at how amazing the display looked with it on. Its funny, because I was almost set on the Asus g75 series, and someone suggested this. There's no way anything else's screen quality would be anywhere near this, period. I get off work at 2pm eastern time today. I'll be making a youtube video showcasing and giving my initial impressions. Anything you guys would like to see me cover?
     
  22. Rayt

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    I'd like to ask if you could please show battery life in Power Saver mode with minimum screen brightness while surfing on wireless. Thanks.
     
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    Hello Drunken, glad you enjoy it - can you comment to how loud/soft the cooling system is?
     
  24. Speedy Gonzalez

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    This Laptop build quality is amazing to be made of plastic and Aluminum is real solid like a G75 the palmrest is made of brushed aluminum and the lid is too but coated with clear coat it looks real nice and classy

    Samsung drives are some of the best quality and reliable SSD's they not the fastest but they are good enough the quality of the case is good like other SSD's plastic with aluminum

    if you read this part is running at sata 6gb that means sata 3
    [​IMG]

    to install drives on this machine takes 1 min there is only 1 screw to remove for the cover and 2 holding the drive the video cards and cpu are not accessible you will need to take the machine apart to get to those :(



    I don't think Nvidia inspector would enable 3d vision options but if you know where on the registry to enable it lemme know and I can try :)

    This machine has the same screen the M17X r3 3D has super bright colorful and high contrast is amazing for gaming like you said there is not a better screen on a 17" laptop than this
    now crank up your digital vibrance on Nvidia control panel to 70% and you may have a heart attack of how beautiful games look that way
     
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    How is the cooling system speedy? Loud/soft?
     
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    cool and quiet and you can toggle off fans with F11 in balanced mode for full silence....well, you still hear the HD, unless you install an SSD.
     
  27. Speedy Gonzalez

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    quiet like a breeze :)
     
  28. wnsrzf

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    NP700G7C is available in UK now , 1220 pounds (after VAT back)

    really want have it with playing diablo 3 on 15th!!

    But the HD7970....damn !!!
     
  29. mcmikel

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    wnsrzf - I don’t understand. Did you find the 700G7C with the HD7970M or are you saying you really wish it had the HD7970M? I posted a link some time ago to an online laptop company in the UK that has this unit in stock and it had the 3D screen to boot but no HD7970M.

    I still think its going to be a while before we see the 7970M in the US. That’s all I can say at the moment ;)
     
  30. wnsrzf

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    sorry if i make u confused

    the available one is with GTX 675M black .

    still no news about HD7970 ,,,
     
  31. Speedy Gonzalez

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    you can play any game with the 675m just fine but I know you want more power we all do ;)
     
  32. wnsrzf

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    Hha exactly!!

    get few questions about SSD

    is 128GB SSD enough ? or should i go 256Gb ?

    is it better to install the operation system on SSD? when replace it , does it mean i have to install the OS myself again on SSD ?

    tks
     
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    So after replacing the SSD, where the hell you gonna install Windows into :p. Anyway, 128GB is the most common space for SSD nowadays because it is more affordable. If you have money, I suggest pick for 256 because you will have some left to install games or store some movies to play. Mine 128 still has about 70GB left and I did not install any game at all. Also, you don't have to reinstall the OS install the SSD. Some of SSD drives have a tranfers kit like USB connection that they will back up the entire image of your old drive and transfer back to the new SSD. However, that would be a risk since your HDD might contain more space than the SSD. In my opinion, do a fresh install on SSD would be the best choice, since you can eliminate all the bad stuff. It is just a matter of time to install drivers and softwares, but it won't take long, should be about 3-4 hours if you have decent amount.
     
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    Thanks again man that was very helpful, you couldn't have been more clear.
    seriously that answered all my questions better than I thought. thanks again

    so I was wondering if taking the laptop apart looks possible to do, I was thinking about getting the 680m when it comes out, or just buying the 7970m and putting it in this laptop, I don't know much about them and especially not samsung... I wonder with enough work if I would be able to take this thing apart and install a new GPU? I just heard that you cant do it on some laptops, and I think it will be hard on this one, but I'm just hoping not impossible. any thoughts?
     
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    ugh I've been keeping up with this thread everyday and it's starting to bug me that theres no 7970m g7c release date yet :(
     
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    it is really helpful !! tkx a lot man
    i am thinking get the GTX 675M one, 7970 may take too long to wait ,......
     
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    And during gayming, it's louder than a jet turbine. ;p
     
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    Hello laptopper - Although this is not the NP700G7C, I am sure the 700G7A (Sandy Bridge / 6970M model shown below and in the link) is somewhat similar in build design. Based on the pictures, it does not look easy to gain access to the main components for upgrades. But, it does look upgradable. All credit for the pictures go to Daily Digital Digest: You can find detailed breakdown information and pictures here: Google Translate (takes a minute to load - google translation of Russian)

    [​IMG]

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    thank you very much sir. This will help me and all the other series 7ers figure out how to take it apart on our own. Now I'm definitely not an expert but with the right tools and basic mechanical knowledge, and at least a day or two to spare I don't see why I couldn't do all of this myself, as long as i can document where the screws and wires go while I'm working on it. I think, unless there's something I'm missing, that I should be able to throw in a 680m within a couple days? with enough determination of course. somebody correct me if there's something I'm missing, or if I'm wrong somehow. One other thing, If i wanna switch the card down the line from AMD to NVidea, or vice versa, will that work? could you tell me any roadblocks or anything stopping that from working. Thank you very much Mcmikel and speedy Gonzalez, and anyone else who can help with these questions from a fellow who just can`t have enough video power
     
  40. Speedy Gonzalez

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    The problem won't be taking the laptop appart the problem is making a standard Video card fit on the machine for what I can see on the pics the pci slot is backwards or upside down so the card goes in facing the motherboard

    That won't be a problem if the heat sink fits on the standard video card but there is a cut out on the corner and we don't know why they made the card like that if there is something on that corner of the card like a speaker or something it needs to be removed to fit the standard card

    Other problem is getting the motherboard to recognize a totally different video card with new architecture in this case Kepler without bios support
     
  41. laptopper012

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    Thanks for the informative reply Speedy Gonzalez. I always appreciate it.

    How would I ever find out if the 675m that's in there is cut off on the corner for a reason, or just cause that's the way it's built?
    will the only way to do that be to take apart my laptop? cause that seems like a lot of time and more importantly risk, to achieve nothing
    but some info, there's got to be a better way?? maybe If I waited a month or two there would be some more info and disassemblys of this laptop posted online? anyone with some input, would be appreciated.

    say I want to get the 7970m and put it in, will there be problems switching from nvidea to AMD? and when If I just buy the 7970m version when it comes out and give the 675 to my wife, will I face problems vice versa? switching from AMD to Nvidea this time, I've heard that's not usually a roadblock but never been confident of that. so again, any input from the folks here is appreciated.

    you said the motherboard might not recognize the new kepler GPUs, if that's the case you would sure think they might not recognize the new 28nm versions from AMD? no? or what about the new new versions from either company in a year or two if I decide to wait to upgrade till then?

    And when you said "without bios support" I have no Idea what that really means, can you elaborate on the whole "bios", "flash", and upgrading motherboards(if possible), and installing new software on mobos, or even replacing mobos? or whatever option(s) seems realistic in any possible way. I'm quite determined to make this work somehow and I have a feeling I'm not the only one.

    You seem like a smart guy. Thanks in advance. I appreciate the help
     
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    It's really cool when you switched to gaming mode. :D
     
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    wow loving the gaming mode!
     
  45. Speedy Gonzalez

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    I guess the only way to find out why the card is like that is taking the machine apart or try to find more pictures of the last year machine

    I said bios support because laptops don't usually accept any video card you throw in there like desktops if the tech is new like on the case of kepler is may don't work

    the 7970m has more chances to work because they are releasing a Samsung gamer with that card so we may have the proper support in the bios already

    lemme know if I don't explain good my English is not to good :eek:
     
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    Hey, have been lurking for a bit and thought i'd post this link. It's a UK link but they are showing the 700G7 with the 7970 card and 3D glasses

    http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/laptops/373027/samsung-series-7-gamer

    Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk 2

    Aacckk, false alarm. Shouldn't post stuff before the morning coffee.....it is a 6900 series card. So much for my first post.

    Darn thing came up as ony 8 hours old on a search for reviews. Fooled me.
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  47. jake7778

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    So we're sure there's going to be a 7970 version right? And if there is do you guys have any idea when it's going to come out (approximately)?
     
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    Very nice video man +rep. So are all the 7 series 120hz screens
     
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    I'm really interested in getting this laptop, but my only concern right now is the laptop cooling. How's the temp on the laptop. I saw this post by GTamega and he said his temp went up to 90 degrees.

    That's really the only thing holding me back from getting this laptop.
    Does the laptop have bad cooling?

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/8503589-post373.html
     
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