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    Samsung Series 7 Laptops - 15.0" and 15.6" Models (NP700Z4 & NP700Z5)

    Discussion in 'Samsung' started by PeterDLai, Aug 30, 2011.

  1. Ellos

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    They are not reviews, but hands-on with the prototypes. As such they are not the final products, so we have to wait until bloggers and reviewers have the real, final products in their hands.
     
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    Doesn't seem to have one, everything seems to come from the speakers.
    But hard to tell.

    I thought it could be behind this opening, but it seems to only for venting.
    [​IMG]
     
  4. Tamale

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    I'm getting anxious to get something and am not convinced the series 7 is worth the wait.

    What alternatives are people considering? I'm interested in the thinkpad w520, hp 8560w, Sager NP8130, and Sony SA 15".. curious if anyone thinks highly of any of these machines as alternatives to the Samsung 7 series..
     
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    I'm telling you. There AREN'T any alternatives.

    You are not going to get these specs in any "PC" Laptop all in one ( as in everything included):

    -6750 Graphics card (Or equivilent)
    -Aluminum Design thinner than 1 inch thick
    -Battery life over 7 hours
    -Quad Core Processor

    If there is an alternative that includes all of this, please let me know ASAP. The only one (which is why its mention so much) is a Macbook Pro.

    Samsung is the FIRST Windows company to understand this concept...

    Not only do people want a thin laptop, they want a thin laptop that is a powerhouse...Not thin as in Macbook Air thin, but under an inch thin.

    Why do you guys think there is so much fire under this thread? No other laptops include those 4 I mentioned.
     
  6. maximum360

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    I guess that's my deal. I've been looking around as well to find something equivalent and frankly there's not much out there. The only thing I've been really worried about is the screen after seeing the mediocre BB model screen in person.
     
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    Agreed. Websites say the closest competition to this laptop is the XPS 15z, but I would have to rate XPS 15z as one of the ugliest laptops I've ever seen. Dell has been trying to come up with new designs, but I think it's been just a disaster.
     
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    https://www.facebook.com/Samsungnotebook?sk=wall&filter=1

    Anyone have any experience importing from Thailand or Philippines? Also...End of October...isn't that....right now?
     
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    heh, the thing is, I don't care about thickness.. but if the screen or touchpad suck, it's pretty much unusable regardless of how thin it is. Also, the 6750 blows compared to the GTX 560m from what I can well.
     
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    Die Ausleuchtung kann im Außenbereich nur bedingt überzeugen und der Kontrast ist weit entfernt von Perfektion.

    Very, very bad contrast! :eek:
     
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    Then clearly this laptop isn't for you. What you are looking for is a gaming laptop not a mobile laptop.
     
  14. AntonioV

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    "far from perfection" is not the same as "Very, very bad contrast" :)
     
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    well of course the 560m is a beast compared to the 6750

    but...i have a limit to where thickness is just too much
    ...its becoming more important that something is thin because in a year or two...if you have a thick laptop you'll look very outdated

    if i could have it my way...

    i'd have a series 9 with a good graphics card(equal to the 6750) and a small bezel
    but technology at this point doesnt allow for something that thin to be that powerful

    I LOOKED AROUND
    there is no alternative to this laptop...

    other laptops offer the same specs but none of them have a small bezel
    the 15.6 inch model series 7 is almost the same size as some 14inch laptops out there
    the other laptops keyboards suck...(or look ugly)
    the touchpad is not as good(i used the one at BB already it was decent not mbp quality but close)
    the design isnt as sleek and it isnt as thin

    if you're ok with giving up those things then go ahead and get another laptop (most of them are about 100-300 cheaper than the series 7 anyways)
     
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    very interesting test... :D

    stats:
    "Plattform: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit-Edition"
    -> Text: "Neben einer 750 GB großen Festplatte sorgt der 8 GB Express Cache Flash-Speicher für schnelle Bootsequenzen des vorinstallierten Windows 7 Home Premium."

    "Der Intel Core i7-2670QM arbeitet mit seinen vier Rechenkernen und einem Maximaltakt von 3,1 GHz am oberen Limit der aktuellen Sandy Bridge Prozessoren."
    ->Its an i7-2675, has 100Mhz more Turbo for the integrated graphics...

    "Abstriche müssen lediglich bei der Display-Qualität hingenommen werden. Die Ausleuchtung kann im Außenbereich nur bedingt überzeugen und der Kontrast ist weit entfernt von Perfektion. "= bad Display....

    but later on :"Display 2,0 (Gut)" = good

    Overall a score of 1.7^^

    Atleast they confirmed that there is no subwoofer, but good speakers.

    Well, I like mine, so I'm maybe a bit biased^^

    Btw. they also tested the new Dell XPS 14z, that Display had only 197 Cd/m and a contrast of 155:1, but its glare. it scored a 3,5 for the Display.
    Just for comparison.
     
  18. Tamale

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    I'll admit the thin bezel is definitely important in the overall look and feel, but the thinness of the machine as a whole or how 'outdated' the machine looks overall just doesn't seem as important.. once it's opened up and you're working on it, the thickness of the base and screen is invisible.. I guess that's what I'm getting at. Even though I'll be taking the machine with me everyday to work and back, I recognize that while it's in its case and while it's on the desk or my lap, those dimensions simply don't change the experience of using the machine. If the main thing I was doing with it was opening and closing the lid and moving it around from room to room somewhere, then maybe I'd change my tune, but I'm pretty sure 99% of the time I use the machine it won't be moving and I don't want to be handicapped by a poor GPU that will make next years' games run too poorly to give me new laptop envy.

    At the same time, I have to give credit where its due on a nicer-looking machine.. the PC market in general needs to get rid of the majority of its crap styling factors and get back to the basics with minimalism and clean, straight designs.
     
  19. mariofz31z

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    That screen is manifestly bad. The reviewer has said that in direct sunlight the light offered is too low, as for a perfect use outdoor at least 300 cd / m2 are required on a matte panel. With an average illumination of 233 cd / m2 they screwed it up even with the brightness, apart from the contrast. As the reviewer has concluded, compromises must be accepted regarding the display quality as coverage may only partially satisfy outdoors and the contrast is far from perfection. And, of course, no woofer...

    So, Samsung, where are those 300 nits, are we cheating one another or what? And what's the point of a matte screen if not to properly use it outdoor?

    Let's see what's notebookcheck gonna have to say, but if theirs results are similar, this is deceptive advertising, no doubt about it.
     

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    dmwajtjt Notebook Guru

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    the only think that I don't know is witch bag to buy for this lapotp. (so I really will buy it)

    I dont know or to buy for 14" or 15,6" because bazel is smaller?


    I am searching for large laptop bag - but also nice designed, where I can have all in one: lapotp, adapter, mobile, wallet, headphones, mouse, a4 papers (documents), and lettle more place for some things that you have to put in bag (glasses, little bottle of watter, a fruit and so one...

    so witch size to watch?
    which shop or website has it?
    please help me with giving a link (i spended alredy 4 hours - all I see are small bags)



    I opened thread here. thanks a lot
     
  21. NEOFOLLOWER2

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    well when it comes down to it...how much horsepower do you need?
    the 14inch specs arent as good
    but if you dont plan on gaming at all...then you should have no problem with the 14inch
    the gpu in the 14inch is the bottleneck in terms of performance

    and thickness plays a big role...i've seen some of those gaming laptops...theyre THICK
    i'd never be able to lug that around with me
    i do agree if something is only barely thicker its no big deal
     
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    I just bought new bag from Thule, crossover 25L
    Thule-Crossover 25L MacBook Backpack

    Very good bag, but if its not what you are looking for, look at there other models, they make good products.

    and you can look at youtube for a preview.

    As for the laptop, I hope that the 14'' screen will get better reviews then the 15.6''.
     
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    Why's everyone being so fussy about the screen? Surely it's not an issue unless you're a graphic designer?
     
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    I'm a graphic designer, and I'm still buying this laptop... p u s s i e s!


    On a serious note, I'm just going to use an external monitor at home, and at work.
     
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    Amen! Amen! Tell it! Add to that backlit keyboard, decent touchpad, and lightweight. I understand that quad-cores produce a lot of heat, but aren't there ways to cool that don't require the form of the computer to be so thick?

    I must admit, I'm disappointed by the screen. I'm an architect/graphic designer, and gamut, constrast and covering RGB is important. I went to BB and set this and the MBP desktops to black and looked at them. No even close. The S7 looks like a cloudy black. My wife's MBAir has better contrast. I may have to make do, though. This really is a very unique Windows machine on the market.
     
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    If you don't give a about thickness, why are you even here dude? LOL just sounds like you are trolling here. If you want a GTX 560m, go get one in a bigger package.
     
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    One reason from a premium notebook: After using low-quality displays on your notebooks for years, you really notice the change, and you end up abhorring any downgrades. It's a rationale that's similar to the one used for why we never go back to regular hard disk drives after using SSDs. I get really annoyed by bad vertical viewing angles while watching my movies and TV shows. I find myself constantly adjusting the screen angle just so the brightness/colors get properly concentrated evenly. It's never perfect! That's why after seeing the stark difference between the two, you become unwilling to part with your high quality notebook display.
     
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    Ummm, is the weight important to you at all? If neither the thinness or weight are important, you're looking at the wrong notebook!!
     
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    This was posted today on Samsung's facebook page:

    We're pleased to inform that the SERIES 7 CHRONOS 15.6" (body 15") has been released in the USA from BBY retailer since early October, and the release date for other retailers is expected middle of November. Please note that on the models 15.6" (body 15"), both NP700Z5A-S03US and NP700Z5A-S04US will be released in the USA, and there is no plan to release the models NP700Z5A-S01US and NP700Z5A-S02US at this stage. For your information, we've notified our local US retailer about this in order to communicate the most accurate information to customers.
     
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    The most random thing is I don't see the difference between S01, S02 to S03, S04. Apparently they just added these numbers after pre-orders were open. Tigerdirect and Amazon has changed their numbers to S03 and S04. But they suppose to include everything that we were looking for and it's out in Germany. It's just we are sick of waiting for it to be release in the US.
     
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    in germany is just s03 - I thought this is high end of laptop.... so what has 04 more?
     
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    I don't know German but it seems to be a confusing review. Personally, I'd take it with a grain of salt --- I just looked at the reviews for BB's new Asus 74 and they all read the same --- indeed, almost like a press release ("Gaming machine that won't break the bank" repeated in different reviews.)

    The Samsung review confuses me as I used the machine and although I didn't love the display I certainly found it to be bright (subjectively). Sound rated a 3? (It was quiet --- I didn't try gaming.) Things like that.

    I went to BB tonight (a large one with good selection) and they had the Sammy 7. Honestly, few were looking at laptops (it seems to be the year of the phone and my gf wants a Samsung Galaxy S 2 if I have that right --- cameras and computers get me excited, not phones :) ).

    Most interest of customers was directed to the Macs. I want the 15 inch but still don't want to pay $1707 or so --- although I might. The Mac screens, although glossy, even looked good at a distance (my opinion). The new Asus G74 screen was too glossy and just didn't look right to me (it has the gaming chops, new i7, a terrabyte, and looks OK but no battery life and Asus support scares me). Definitely a different animal --- gigantic and poor battery life but, perhaps OK, for anyone looking for the 560 card (gimped by BB but still strong and 2 gigs). Not my cup of tea. Definitely a desktop replacement with an excellent cooling system and admittedly cheap for what it is at $1,199 (the discontinued one was even cheaper as was the discontinued F22 --- at least that has a good screen IMO).

    The salesperson (builds his own computers, etc...) was good but didn't even know the Samsung 7 which was on the floor. The 9 next to it looked broken --- very dark screen.

    Called B&H looking for the Sony SE. With virtually no video card (6470) it's less than $1,000. About $1,079 with a few items such as a 6630 card. The rep pointed me towards a black F23 for about $1,059. (Not a bad price but no battery life to speak of and a bit large at 16.4 and thick --- 540 card.)

    I'm now almost convinced there is no perfect laptop. Mac comes closest but even Macs are not perfect and they are certainly expensive. Most at Barnes & Noble who had computers had Macs (13 inch). Slowly sipping their Starbuck's (for hours) and doing college work or relaxing.

    Given the competition, the Samsung should be fine. I think the SSD cache is a real good option and selling point. The screen could be better but many laptop screens are worse. [I'm a screen "freak" to some extent, so I'm undecided. Especially since expectations had been so high and the better models have not made it to the U.S.] And build quality is good. Battery power might even be excellent. But I honestly think Samsung raised our expectations too high and may pay the price. (I wonder if the floods in Thailand could be slowing down production as the top four HDD makers --- including Samsung --- have operations there.)

    I'm looking forward to the notebook check review and any other good ones. That will help me decide as even Samsung reps don't even know the machine exists :).

    Finally, Tiger Direct told me November 8th.

    Good luck and may you find your (near) perfect machine.
     
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    Fair enough, Samsung raised the expectations too high...

    Such a pity with that mediocre to low quality screen, as the notebook seems to be excellent in almost all other departments.

    Quite difficult to cope with theirs foggy thinking, to offer a premium spec notebook with an inferior screen while being one of the most prominent screen producers. Just hope they didn't put up a bluff against us by presenting the screen as a superior one. Must definitely have something to do with theirs margins. They might thought that by embedding all the right components plus the puffy margin, the price would go too high. So, they kept the margin while downgrading the screen to a cheap washed out one and removing the woofer. BTW, that screen seems to be the same for both US and Europe.

    I only hope they are to introduce a version with a better screen as well, otherwise I cannot see myself paying 1400 € for a notebook with low-budget screen, as because of inferior screen the overall perceived quality has gone down dramatically.

    Moreover, have to take into account that it's not quite cheap, as the German reviewer noted, 'for a price of 1,400 €, we would also expect a blu-ray drive'. With a mediocre screen, mediocre audio and no blu-ray, the multimedia capability is definitely compromised. No longer an all-rounder... Such a pity for 'the above average performance and the consistently good workmanship'.

    Same old story, don't trust something which sounds too good to be true.
     
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    Notebookinfo.de is not really a reviewsite, it is a marketingsite. The reviews are not worth Reading.
     
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    Why does everyone focus on the reviews text ? The numbers are all there... avg brightness, contrast, noise, what more do you want ? Just compare them with notebooks you know.

    They measure this stuff the same way notebookcheck and all the others do, these numbers wont differ much.
     
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    i thought series 9 comes with integrated gfx? if so, how can that be equal to 6750?
     
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    How do you think this laptop would handle gaming?

    I'm far from a hardcore gamer, but I would like to be able to play recent releases.

    Seems to have enough hardware to handle this, with a decent graphics card and sufficient RAM.
     
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    See notebookcheck for a wealth of information on the actual performance.

    John
     
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    Whats the dpc latency of the Samsung series 7 models? I wonder if they would work for music production.
     
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    Could someone with the laptop with the 6750 video card post info about game performance, including fps and settings. I am especially interested in battlefield 3. I want to know if the laptop will have the same performance as my desktop (dual core & 8800GT).

    Ty
     
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    Next week, there should be a review on Notebookcheck.com .
    But it's not the topmodel but only the smaller version with i5 CPU.
     
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    it's the i5 version with the 6750 graphics card that I want. Is it the same model?
     
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    I was at the Microsoft Store today and they said they plan to stock the Series 7 but it got pushed back by Samsung.

    They had the Series 7 Slate tablet though... very nice but for $1299... a tad too pricey.
     
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    if samsung pushes this release back anymore...theyll lose customers...

    the only thing thatll justify pushing the release back is if they update the internals...which i doubt will happen
     
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    I was told by Tiger direct it's Nov 9 they expecting sounds like mid-november to me now.
     
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    I don't think they care about the 1000 fanatics who followed this since IFA. When it hits the market it'll get sold for months before anything better comes out.
     
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    That's probably true. It will still have quite an edge over the rest of the market, especially given its price. Hard to believe the launch was 2 months ago. Although I've only been following it every day for a month.
     
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    I bet there's way less than 1000 people on the planet who are up in arms about a few days delay. And I bet most of them are adolescents who don't have the money to buy it anyway.

    While there are many good contributions to this thread, the posts by a mere handful of oh-so-outraged folks are pretty hilarious...
     
  49. akula57

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    I'd say disappointed, not outraged. It doesn't bother me and sometimes says something about the company or machine.

    And the customer is always (well, usually) right. Caveat venditor.

    Good luck with your purchase.
     
  50. NEOFOLLOWER2

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    i need a laptop...and i wanted a mbp with windows on it but i refuse to pay 2k for one if this laptop is coming out soon...

    so lets hope it comes out soon.
    anyword on when amazon will have it?
     
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