a Mini review for Samsung R480 core i5 with geforce 330m

if you want to buy r480 from Canada online store.. HERE

R480 with core i5 +geforce 330m 1029 canadian dollars
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX27365(ME).aspx?curtab=2&wr=1

R480 with core i5 +geforce 330m 1069 canadian dollars
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=49807&vpn=NP-R480-JT01CA&manufacture=Samsung

R480 with core i3 +geforce 310m 929 canadian dollars
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=49806&vpn=NP-R480-JS01CA&manufacture=Samsung
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Edited 9th deb 2010
Added 3dmark Vantage result at 1280*1024

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edited.. 7th feb 2010
added stalker : clear sky, crysis warhead, dirt2

Edited**************
added L4D2, GTA4, mass effect 2, grid, furmark for temperature

I wonder if changing from normal to speed mode will make different of not..
Never done this before... plz don't laugh( my english is bad too)
just want to share some info on this laptop..


Specifications
Processor Intel® Core™ i5 Processor 430M
2.26 GHz, 3 MB
Chipset Intel HM55
Memory 4 GB DDR3 (2 GB x 2) 2 x SODIMM

Hard Drive 500GB 5400rpm
Optical Drive Super Multi Dual Layer

Video 14.0" LED HD (1366 x 768) 16 : 9 Gloss

NVIDIA GeForce GT 330 M 1 GB GDDR3

The look
will add more picture tomorrow







Inside









Battery indicator



Windows 7 experience index



HDtune on the stock Samsung 500gb drive hm500ji



HDtune on intel x25-m G1 160gb


Performance test 7.0
I used a SSD instead of the stock harddrive... so the total score is off...
this result is from Normal mode.
summary screenshot



Detail


s peed mode result is coming

summary


detail

the score went up like 200 by choosing speed mode






3Dmark2006
The nvidia driver from samsung is not approved by futuremark, can't post link

the score with performance mode and no overclock on the geforce 330
at 1280*720
is 6992
SM2 3012
sm3 2994
cpu 2013


3Dmark Vantage (At 1280*1024 , connected to a Desktop LCD , as Vantage doesn't allow me to run at 1366*768

with physx off

3DMark Score
P2416 3DMarks
CPU Score
6820
Graphics Score
1988

with physx on

3DMark Score
P2531 3DMarks
CPU Score
15582
Graphics Score
1979



both score are in this screenshot

If i overclock my GPU from 575 core 790 memory 1265 shader to 625 core 850 memory 1350 shader

Score

3DMark Score
P2775 3DMarks
CPU Score
16092
Graphics Score
2175



Resident evil 5
1280*720
directx 10
no AA
high in shadow
high in texture
high in overall quality

get 44.5 fps in varible benchmark

( it is more then playable)
for compare 1201n dual core atom netbook @ 2ghz could only hit 16 fps in lowest setting in same res with ION

I USED FRAPS for showing fps

GTA4

Setting 1366*768 mainly in high but low in reflection and mid in water quality.



FPS range from lowest 21 up to 35 in outdoor , fps up to 55 in indoor ( in the apartment)










I tried 1280*720
med in texture
high in quality setting
Statistics
Average FPS: 37.78
Duration: 37.43 sec
CPU Usage: 90%
System memory usage: 68%
Video memory usage: 52%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1280 x 720 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Medium
Texture Filter Quality: High
View Distance: 25
Detail Distance: 37

Hardware
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M
Video Driver version: 196.34
Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz

File ID: Benchmark.cli



I USED FRAPS for showing fps
L4D2

(second testing)
AA 2xmsaa
AF 4x
very high in shader
high on the rest of setting
at Dark carnvial 2nd map ( the entrance)
Frames Time (ms) Min Max Avg
5918 121379 22 78 48.76



(first testing)
Used setting noAA triliner filtering
high in all setting
range from 30-70 ,average is around 40-50
really depend on which map you play in ,,

Setting










Mass Effect 2
high setting with AF 4x

Setting


FPS range from low 30s ( in fight ) up to low 50s in indoor







Grid
racing game need higher FPS
so i used med setting 1366*768 no AA no AF
FPS range from 40-53







Just tried the game again using 2xmsaa in game setting
on average the fps may just drop 2-3 fps... really playable



STalker: CLear Sky
1366*768

The FPS i got before was wrong, seems like the gpu was running in sleep mode.. much slower then normal...(correcting the picture
at med quality setting with "objects dynamic lighting"
in the town i got 35-67 fps.
when in outdoor FPS can go up to average 70 fps...range from 50s to 90s









Crysis Warhead
In 1366*768 mainsteam mode
FPS was average around 30 range from 23 to 39fps ( i only played the first 8 min of the game..)











just used Fraps 's min avg max setting at 1280*720 mainstream


run in 2 different area

Frames Time (ms) Min Max Avg
3263 98449 22 43 33.14

Frames Time (ms) Min Max Avg
4831 143220 7 49 33.73



some people request snow lvl benchmark
con_restricted 0
map frost
to go directly to the snow level
start from tunnel to the aircraft carrier

Frames Time (ms) Min Max Avg
4041 141438 2 44 28.57

Frames Time (ms) Min Max Avg
3094 116876 16 39 26.47

In gamer mode

the fps range droped alot to average around 14 fps. range from 10-17
for sure this mode is not for this notebook setting or i mean this geforce 330m video card

Dirt2

FPS range from 26 up to around 43-44
( last time i tried this game , i was having some spike in performance.. the fps time to time drop to low 20s, but once i used speed mode the problem is kind of gone.. lowest fps i see is 26
most fps are around 33-38>>









Battlefield BC2 beta
at 1366*768
with medium setting in everything no AA noAF ( it is not medium overall, go to advanced and do the setting)

14 people server i tried on
(updated)
Frames Time (ms) Min Max Avg
5023 134570 16 66 37.33

The last set of benchmark was wrong,, as i forgot i was running the system in silent mode,,


Fury mark for temperature using extreme burn in.. didn't know when it will end... ran it for 24 min.. don't knoe if it is good enough



the last one which i only ran it for 5 min....








more to come tomorrow..... need time

let me know what you guys want to see>> i will do my best>>


Overall from what i see,

This is a faily good gaming notebook( for people with 1000 dollars or less in Canadian dollars )
all the game that i tried. is more then playable.
and i can use high setting

 

Woah they put a one gig in a 14 here is another competior for the m11x.

 

bump up ..

 

Nice benches. Looks like a nice alternative to the Sony CW.

 

this is very good and interesting. thanks.

 

Nice review!
Seems like a pretty powerful 14" laptop, AW M11x is only 11.6" so performance wise they are pretty comparable , size wise not even close.
Good job.

 

If you could run Furmark burn-in test and post a screenshot, it would be much appreciated.

Another request: a few screenshots of the screen with a dark or black background from straight on, and a couple angles.

 

i will try to get it done tonight>>
what kind of back ground should i use????

 

The best would be a black background, I'd like to see the black levels (how black the blacks are), and the viewing angles. Thanks very much.

 

This looks much better than the original leaked specs, which suggested the R480 would have integrated graphics and the R580 would have a 310m. Samsung's Singapore site shows that it's out there with a 2.4GHz i5, too. I can't find it on a North American site. I'm guessing it doesn't have switchable graphics though, since there's no mention of it in the specs.

If this laptop becomes available for purchase in the United States (at a reasonable price) before Asus get their i5s out, I'll probably get one. I like it better than Sony's CW because 1600x900 on a 14" would give me a headache. The Touch of Color design is also very nice.

 

i tried to start furmark,
but there is no resolution setting which i can use...
no 1280*720
no 1366*768
what should i do?

 

I am in Canada, i bought it from a local store
www.memoryexpress.com
and yes, many site 's spec showed the r480 only come in 310
but the one i got is 330m in Canada( samsung.ca show this)

This lap top looks good, and perform nice

i will take some more close up on this laptop

will post it tonight

 

Did you try to run it with just the default settings when it loads (use extreme burnin mode)? This is mainly to test the temperature of the GPU under extreme load, so the resolution is irrelevant. (it will display a temperature graph)

 

try it in lower resolutions... Is your screen glossy or matte? It looks kinda matte. Its pretty cool performance, too bad no blu ray drive, where did you get it from? Too bad the keys aren't backlit.

 

i got it from here
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX27365(ME).aspx?curtab=2&wr=1

 

can someone teach me how to use crysis warhead 's benchmark???
no idea how >

 

Can you please run the general PassMark PerformanceTest and post the summary screen like shown here (minus comparison to other systems)?

 

i hope this is not those that bench the harddrive too , as i changed my Harddrive to a SSD>>> 160gb intel x25-m g1 ( abit older.. but good price)

 

got it up...
again.. don't forget the ssd

 

Thanks for the furmark test fury! I understand you'll run the full test later? I appreciate it because it's my primary concern about this notebook. Although it looked like it was starting to cap at 76 deg. which is fine, it might have gone 5-10 more durint the full test.

The cooling design does not look sufficient to me having no air intake and such a powerful GPU.

 

What about price for this configured machine?

 

I bought mine for 1029 canadian dollars..

from a local store
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX27365(ME).aspx?curtab=2&wr=1

just do the exchange rate..

 

Just wanted to thank fury for his work on detailing this notebook to all of us. +rep

 

id like to see a aion bench mark with the 335...

 

mm sorry i don't have aion..

 

Do you have the new batman game? It has a cool benchmark.

 

will the demo work ?

 

Where's that complete furmark burn-in test furyagain? Little nervous about the results or waiting for the cooling pad to do it first?

 

oo sorry >> lol being playing mass effect 2

ok ok fine i will do it now lol

what do you mean nervous about the result ?

 

2 min till the end..

the temp now around 80-84 degress...



oo by the way how can i stop it ??

how long does it take ?? been 22 min already.. when will it stop ?

 

done.
i think i stop it after around 24 min..

the temp stay within range in the last 15 min.. so i stopped it..
hope it is good enough

 

How is the screen quality?

Can you go really bright? How are the reflective is the screen?

What is the battery life? Switchable graphics solution?

 

Thanks for the full furmark test. I've been burned with laptops with poorly designed cooling systems and higher end GPUs before. While 81/84 peak is within spec for the GPU (i doubt i'd worry unless it went past 90), it's still pretty toasty.

When i got my asus (with a gtx260m) my temps were 84 max or so when i got it. Three months later they peaked at 106 one night before i sent it in for RMA.

I will say this: I will never buy a notebook designed for gaming that has an insufficient cooling design.

Asus is notorious for throwing a high end cpu/gpu into a poorly designed enclosure, and a horrible screen but an attractive pricetag. While this Samsung looks to be fine, i just don't trust it. I'll stick with a company that specializes in mobile gaming from now on.

 

i understand,
when i tell my friends i got a samsung laptop,
their first reaction was,,,,
"WHAT?? SAMSUNG???"
" does it even make laptop !!??"
"never heard of Samsung Laptop"


but i think , because the company is new to laptop business, it will try it's best to do a good job on these product, inorder to build the name upon it.

 

In truth, so far it looks to be a very attractive deal, and nothing from you've posted should really deter someone from buying one, but it still makes me nervous due to my experiences with other companies.

 

this only time will tell..


The only disadvantage of owning this samsung notebook is....

info!!!

i havn't even seen any other people feedback about this laptop..
( not really up for sell in US,, only canada for now in North america)

i really want to crack this machine open!!!!! as after i open the back cover
other then the memory and harddrive ( see the photo i have)
i can also see the CPU!! but the cooling system is blocking the cpu. so i will have to remove the cover to get to the cpu..

The cpu is on a socket which mean it can be upgraded!!!!!!!!

 

Samsung have been making notebooks for some years but have only been selling them in North America under the Samsung name for just over one year. This is the result of an agreement made with Dell some years ago for Dell to sell the Samsung Q30 as the Latitude X1.

Samsung usually provide generous cooling systems on their notebooks. One consequence of this is that R70 owners didn't start getting problems with their nVidia GPUs until after the end of the normal one year warranty period.

John

 

Thanks for the info fury! How is the overall build quality? Screen flex, exterior, etc.

 

to me it is really solid..

only thing some people may not like it is...
it is red/black color.

i have no problem ,

i recommand people to go check out the samsung R4X0 series (430/480)
in their local store...

i like it alot..
it is 5.03 lb not too heavy for a 14" with this hardware.

i believe when more games take advantage of mult core...
the core i5 's 2 core 4 thread setting will fly..




so the only 2 things that people will not like...

1)RED

2) Battery Life.., it is around 3 hours.
can't expect too much from the core i5 430m

i will keep an eye on aftermarket battery for this laptop.

 

Hey furyagain, nice review! Thanks for the info

The red color is also something I'm not quite sure about. I think I'll check that out in person when I'm at a local store that sells some r480s. Unfortunately there seems to be no official release date for Germany yet

Does anyone of you know if there's the possibility to get the notebook with an i3-300m cpu and the geforce 330m? I want to save some money and don't really need the i5 but the more powerful gpu would be nice...

 

yes look at the link i posted in the first page first post,

in www.ncix.com you can get a r480 with core i3 + geforce 330m


edit>>
this is the link
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=49806&vpn=NP-R480-JS01CA&manufacture=Samsung

 

Nice laptop can we get this in the states yet?

 

That's cool, thanks! So now I just have to hope that they will also sell this configuration here in Germany...

 

So, it looks like it ships with Win7 32 and not 64?

 

yes..
i reload it to win7 64 bit

just borrow your friend 's win7 64 bit and use your own cdkey from the laptop..

 

Hey furyagain, I checked your link again and it seems like that this model still has a Geforce 310m. The 330m in the headline applies to the cpu which is an i3-330m. Just check the specs at the bottom of the product page:

This is very misleading by NCIX.com. But i still hope they'll release it with an i3-330m and the Geforce 330m

 

ooo boy i am so sorry>>>

my bad

 

Nevermind ^^ The headline on the product page really is misleading. I also thought that they meant the 330m gpu. Now I just hope that they'll release it here with my desired config or that the i5 430m version won't cost too much in €.

Nonetheless I've got two questions:

1) You stated that the battery life is about 3h. Is that on power saver mode?

2) Does the glossy surface scratch and/or smudge easily? Samsung promotes this thing with the term "DuraCase"... does it hold up to this name?

Thanks!

 

yea> ofcause this kind of laptop can't run everything full power and still have 3 hr battery life..

glossy surface
?? you mean the screen or the casing???
the casing seems pretty tough, I do love the red/black color of it>>>

So see one then you will know

 

Hello
I'm a student from Korea (Pardon my english please). You seemed to know a lot about laptops(notebooks) so I wanted to ask you some questions. I have little knowledge about computers, benchmarks and things like that. I'm not a complete idiot about computers though. I want to be able to play Call of Duty;Modern Warfare2 and Left4Dead2 with High Quality settings fluently.
Here are my questions
Which VGA would perform similarly to an Xbox360 graphic standard?
Which VGA would perform my needs(?) well?
I like the Samsung R580 with the i5-520 and Geforce 330m. Would this be suitable for my gaming?
Is it true that you need more cores to be able to play online game fluently, whilst you need more faster GPU clocks(?) to play High Graphic Quality games?
I'm sorry if I bothered you.
Please Reply ASAP
Bye
from Min K K