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    Discussion in 'Smartphones and Tablets' started by H.A.L. 9000, Aug 1, 2010.

  1. ahl395

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    My guess is since its GSM like its T-Mobile's almost identical counterpart, I'm guessing thats true. But hopefully Exynos!
     
    ahl395, Oct 31, 2011
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    MGS2392 NAND Cat!

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    That doesn't mean anything though, since their 4.3" non LTE GSII is Exynos. And so is the rest of the GSII series. The only one that isn't is T-Mo, since they have odd frequency bands.
     
    MGS2392, Oct 31, 2011
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  3. ahl395

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    Ah true, well we will see :D



    Otherwise...


    WANT on my next phone :eek:
     
    ahl395, Oct 31, 2011
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  4. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    The two pre-existing Galaxy S2 models that support LTE use Qualcomm SoCs.
    And given the specs, the AT&T model is almost certainly just a re-branded Samsung Galaxy S II LTE
     
    Step666, Oct 31, 2011
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  5. TearTaker

    TearTaker Notebook Evangelist

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    Glad you like it. My sister received her white one today. Thought she got ripped off when she first picked it up due to how light it was, lol. And thanks step.
     
    TearTaker, Oct 31, 2011
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  6. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    It feels hollow when the battery isn't in it, it's nuts.
     
    Step666, Oct 31, 2011
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  7. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    A friend of mine ( a girl ), went crazy when I told her there's a white Galaxy S II.

    She went all over me asking where to buy one :laugh:
     
    Phistachio, Oct 31, 2011
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  8. TearTaker

    TearTaker Notebook Evangelist

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    Weel, good for you. ;)
    @step, yeah, it's crazy light.
     
    TearTaker, Oct 31, 2011
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  9. ahl395

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    Hahahaha, thats awesome :p Samsung needs to base a commercial off this.
     
    ahl395, Oct 31, 2011
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    So... should I go for the GS2 LTE on ATT for 249.99? Or import the Galaxy Nexus for 700+ dollars? I just can't decide. The GS2 LTE is tempting.. but there is just something special about owning a Nexus
     
    mrXniick, Oct 31, 2011
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  11. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    $700+? It's coming to Canada in a couple of weeks (apparently), heck I can probably get you one and ship it to you for cheaper. :p (Canada's major networks are compatible with ATT bands).
     
    Johnny T, Oct 31, 2011
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  12. mrXniick

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    Then we may have a business transaction in a couple weeks ;) (but possibly serious) lol
     
    mrXniick, Oct 31, 2011
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  13. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Hah, I shall see the launch prices first. :p
     
    Johnny T, Oct 31, 2011
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    visiom88 Notebook Evangelist

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    I really wish Verizon gets both 16gb and 32gb version of Galaxy Nexus, one being $199 and the other being $299.
     
    visiom88, Nov 1, 2011
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  15. Megacharge

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    Nice, when Samsung announced the SGN it kinda made me feel slightly remorseful about my SGSII (for a little while). The SGN is pretty sweet.
     
    Megacharge, Nov 1, 2011
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  17. Phistachio

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    Phistachio, Nov 1, 2011
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  18. Thierry19

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    Ill risk it, for 9 bucks it sounds pretty decent to me :p
     
    Thierry19, Nov 1, 2011
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  19. Thierry19

    Thierry19 Coffee enthusiast

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    This saddens me; [​IMG]
     
    Thierry19, Nov 1, 2011
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  20. visiom88

    visiom88 Notebook Evangelist

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    Seeing that Droid RAZR is on par with iPhone 4S, I think it is possible for Galaxy Nexus to outnumber iPhone 4S if its hardware optimization is anything near significant.
     
    visiom88, Nov 1, 2011
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  21. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    All credit to Motorola, they must be doing something right - which makes a change...
     
    Step666, Nov 1, 2011
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  22. BigNerd

    BigNerd Notebook Deity

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    How legit is that Browsermark test?

    My own score here shows lower than their iPhone 4 (no S) score... and how does the Flash test work into the score?
     
    BigNerd, Nov 1, 2011
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  23. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    One of the reasons is because the iOS has a GREAT hardware acceleration. The 4S has a notoceably weaker CPU...

    But the 4430... I don't know why it's better than the Exynos 4210... HAL, can we know why?
     
    Phistachio, Nov 1, 2011
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  24. Kaelang

    Kaelang Requires more Witcher.

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    My iPhone 4 on iOS 5 just did 52639 on Browsermark, higher than what's on that graph...
     
    Kaelang, Nov 1, 2011
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    Is there an explanation of how they factor in the Flash test for iOS?

    My numbers somewhere earlier on this thread was for iOS 4 (jailbroken).
     
    BigNerd, Nov 1, 2011
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  26. Kaelang

    Kaelang Requires more Witcher.

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    My guess is that they ignore it.
     
    Kaelang, Nov 1, 2011
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  27. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    That may explain why the scores are high.
     
    Phistachio, Nov 1, 2011
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  28. Kaelang

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    Possibly. I'm not sure how they average it all in. I would think that if they want a fair comparison, they would have found out about this ahead of time. Any good comparison has to be on equal footing to get a scientific truth out of it, but that graph also outlines the average iPhone vs. Android browsing experience too.
     
    Kaelang, Nov 1, 2011
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  29. Thierry19

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    My SGS2 is unable to install CM7 >.>
    Ugh

    It keeps going : E: Error (status 7) Installation Aborted
    EDIT:
    The problems seems to be coming from the name of my device, CM7 does not see it as a compatible unit.
    Tried to modify the binary starter to fix the problem but it failed, so I installed Exynos 7.2 instead, and now it's looping.
    Ah, the joy of flashing roms >.>
     
    Thierry19, Nov 1, 2011
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  30. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    How exactly do these benchmarks reflect on real life usage? Most of it is BS IMO.
     
    sgogeta4, Nov 1, 2011
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  31. Thierry19

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    Eh, looks like my failed attempt to Exynos fixed the Cm7 problem.
    IT'S ALIVE!

    Seriously, horror movies are not frightening at all compared to flashing my phone.
     
    Thierry19, Nov 1, 2011
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  32. Thierry19

    Thierry19 Coffee enthusiast

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    [​IMG]

    Take that, Iphone 4s
     
    Thierry19, Nov 1, 2011
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  33. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    There's GPU acceleration going on somewhere there. I just don't know whether it's by Google's hand or Moto's. That and it seems they've moved to EXT4... FINALLY. Motorola's been using EXT3 with no performance optimizations for quite a while.

    --BEEP--
    Wrong. The iPhone 4S has a GPU that would literally whip the Exynos, back-to-back... and the iPhone CPU/GPU combo is downclocked compared to the iPad 2. Seriously, the SGX543MP2+ is a very powerful GPU. Apple's A5 SoC is physically larger, die for die, than it's competition (Tegra/OMAP/Exynos). They went with more expensive components and made a larger die, which was what no one else was willing to do. NVIDIA's Tegra 2 is the absolute smallest, and it's crippled with no NEON, and a GPU that can't properly decode HD video.

    The 4430 isn't better than Exynos. It's just a choice Google made since the PowerVR GPU's are based on USSE2 shaders, and the CPU is pretty strictly ARM reference, with a few things added on for performance. Google is going for standards, and OMAP provides that where Exynos doesn't. Exyno's GPU is based on non-unified pixel/vertex "cores" (shaders).

    If you disable the browser plug-ins in the Android Browser, it runs the same as it would on iOS... skipping the Flash "branching test". :)
     
    H.A.L. 9000, Nov 1, 2011
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  34. Megacharge

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    AFAIK ICS supports hardware acceleration.

    It says "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below".
     
    Megacharge, Nov 1, 2011
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  35. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Indeed, it does. And it's enabled by default for the first time.

    Gingerbread has hardware acceleration also, but it's only for certain things... window transition animations being #1. It's just dependent on the user to enable it, most of the time.

    debug.sf.hw=1

    Enable that and you have hardware acceleration on Gingerbread. :)
     
    H.A.L. 9000, Nov 1, 2011
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  36. Thierry19

    Thierry19 Coffee enthusiast

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    Hmm, well it was a 91k score of browsermark.
    Can you see it from here?
    Twitpic / SoccerThierry

    Anyway, I un-installed CM7, I did not enjoy the UI..
     
    Thierry19, Nov 1, 2011
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  37. Megacharge

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    Yes I see it, very nice, thanks!
     
    Megacharge, Nov 1, 2011
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  38. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    This one? Nice!

    [​IMG]
     
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    H.A.L. 9000, Nov 1, 2011
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  39. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    But, but... BUT HOW?! I only got 52k... :(

    And 48k without flash :cry:

    What ROM are you using?

    Yes, I knew that the GPU is miles ahead of the Mali, but I didn't know that a die increase could give up THAT much performance...
     
    Phistachio, Nov 2, 2011
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  40. H.A.L. 9000

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    Yep. It can.

    Die sizes:
    Tegra 2 = 43mm^2
    A4 = 53.3mm^2
    OMAP4 = 69.7mm^2
    Exynos = 118mm^2
    A5 = 122mm^2

    Apple's A5 is, by far, the most expensive to produce... but it's performance makes up for it.
     
    H.A.L. 9000, Nov 2, 2011
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  41. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    Only 4mm^2 more than the Exynos... And that of a performance increase... Oh tech, u grow so fast.
     
    Phistachio, Nov 2, 2011
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  42. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    Given it doesn't ship with ICS and still has some sort of Blur on it, my gut reaction is that it's still mostly Motorola at the helm.
     
    Step666, Nov 2, 2011
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  43. Thierry19

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    Yep this one!
    Thanks!
    I uaed CM7, HAL got a similar score with the same ROM IIRC. Although like I said I did not enjoy the UI so I got another rom, and my score is back at 55k :p
     
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  44. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    This is basically why I'm not buying it. The hardware and form factor is pretty impressive, but Blur and all that crap is a step backwards from the pure experience. Instead of adding to Android, it takes away.
     
    hockeymass, Nov 2, 2011
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  45. Thierry19

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    If the Razr does come with an unlocked bootloader (Like mentioned by a couple of person), then it should be pretty easy to get rid of all said crap.
     
    Thierry19, Nov 2, 2011
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  46. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    I'm generally against rooting my phone. I'll tinker with a computer on a deeper level, but I don't really feel like getting into the nuts and bolts to have a decent user experience. That's why I like the pure devices and why I'll probably get the Galaxy Nexus. I think the ICS UI is as close to perfection as I can imagine.
     
    hockeymass, Nov 2, 2011
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  47. Thierry19

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    The deal breaker about the SGN for me is the lack of a micro SD slot.
    But you are right, the ICS UI does seem very, very nice.
    I can not wait to get it on my phone :D
     
    Thierry19, Nov 2, 2011
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  48. Johnny T

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    Time to nuke my phone and start over. Data dropping too often...
     
    Johnny T, Nov 2, 2011
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  49. Thierry19

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    Damn I wish i had a camera to compare the picture quality of the SGSII and the SGS, it is like night and day!
     
    Thierry19, Nov 2, 2011
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  50. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I go so annoyed with clicking install/done in TI backup that I finally bought the pro version...
     
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