Galaxy S7 vs iPhone SE vs HTC 10

Lol that's like 3-4 generations old.

 

See, I have an iPad, a Nexus 7, and a Kindle Fire along with my HTC 10. I don't really ever touch the tablets but I do everything on my 10. It's much more convenient for me to use my cell phone than to use another device, including either of my computers. My phone can do just about everything I need it to do and that's the beauty of Android. If I didn't game I don't know that I'd have a high end PC at all, I'd probably just get a decent laptop for tasks I can't do on my phone like rooting the phone in the first place or flashing stock ROMs. I've been a power user since Windows Mobile 5 though so I've just gotten used to my phone being my do it all device. Thanks to UPnP I don't even have to get up to start a movie or a TV show, I can just tap and go. If I didn't do so many things on my phone I probably wouldn't mind a smaller one.

 

2009 - 7-8 generations
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_milestone-3001.php

I had something similar at the time, don't recall the model, with a slidey-out keyboard, it was a favorite.

 

The 810 chip in the Z5 is a second-gen 810, which apparently doesn't suffer from the horrendous overheating the first batch of the 810 had.

 

That's an unfounded rumor. The 810 never received another revision, it was shelved and development began on the 820. Manufacturers using the chip either lowered the clocks or implemented special heatsinks for it. Either way, it's overheating was massively exaggerated by Samsung to push their Exynos agenda

http://semiaccurate.com/2015/03/02/behind-fake-qualcomm-snapdragon-810-overheating-rumors/

 

Wadya know, my comment was HTC on topic

I had an HTC Touch Pro, known as the HTC Fuze on AT&T, and it was a great phone, had lots of software, great slide out keyboard, it was pretty cool at the time.

HTC Touch Pro
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php

 

Makes sense, most reviews I've read say the Z5 Compact doesn't overheat.

 

I had it on Sprint and Touch Pro 2 as well. I honestly miss the old WM phones, you could literally mod everything in the operating system

The Exynos 7420 overheated more than the 810 ironically. Well I guess it's not that ironic considering that the Exynos 5 also was hotter than the Snapdragon 800 line of chips. Bottom line is that Samsung had to push the Exynos in order to differentiate their product from everyone else and they threw Qualcomm under the bus to do it. Despite the fact the LG G Flex 2 had no overheating problems, the public opinion on the 810 pushed almost everyone to use the 808 which seriously hurt everyone involved because the Exynos 7420 decimated that chip. In a way you can blame Samsung for the horrible flagships last year.

 

Thank you for the correction,i used that as my secondary phone for so loooooong.

G2 was my second love after the Milestone :

 

SIM-modded Photon Qs still run strong with latest CM13. Speed-wise it's like any modern budget phone, but the brilliant keyboard and latest software make up for that. On side note, there's nothing stopping you from using a bluetooth keyboard case with SE - there should be one or two good ones for iphone5-sized devices, unlike ugly mess available for Galaxies.

 

@Ethrem @bloodhawk @hmscott

Sold my HTC 10 today for $450 USD Big loss

 

Whaaaiiiiii ... should have waited. The SE will feel royal right now, but it will start to bug you later on.

 

i've owned both for a good while. The SE makes me happier with its camera and not having to constantly worry about charging it.

The HTC 10's camera has the worst camera I've owned out of my recent phones, Galaxy S6 edge+ iPhone 6S, Nexus 6P, BlackBerry PRIV, Galaxy S7, iPhone SE

 

Ahh well. I wish the SE rapes your USB ports when your are sleeping and you find weird sticky stuff in the morning. J/K

I just hate the iPhones, thats why im kinda biased. But im glad its working better for you.

 

j00 you think I don't? I hate iToys more than you. I despise this piece of garbage app called iTunes and how difficult it is to manage my data compared to the simple copy/paste of Android as if it was just another partition. But you can't have it all sometimes....I have ot force myself to use it and get what I want.....number 1.....the battery.....Android just sucks in battery management despite them having gigantic capacity batteries. Even an article on How-To-Geek I read the other day mentioned this as one of the things Android needs to fix with their OS, poor battery management.

PS: Doze is the biggest gimmick ever that doesn't do crap for battery life.

 

iPhone 7: Report points to a disappointing upgrade this year

 

Doze works great on nexus devices. Most manufacturers have broken it because of their own overlays.

But doesnt everyone charge their phones every night? I mean unless you dont go home. I mean i do it every night around 11 and my M8 with its almost dead battery survives through the day.
Please dont take this the wrong way, im just curious why the 2 day battery life is so important to so many people. I have never used any of my phones with less than 60% charge on the second day. Never worked out as they died on me before the 2nd day was over.

For me Android is great, gives me exactly what i need. Main thing i hate about iOS is the lack of customization. But the whole Android vs iOS discussion is never ending.

Thing is that, there is a no perfect phone out there. Gotta prioritize what you need. For example, i want a great display, amazing audio DAC and good build quality. I do not give a rats ass about the camera. Hence the HTC M8/10

btw. Doze has been working great on my dads Nexus 6P. With his measly usage the phone lasts him around 3 days. He barely uses it for email and texts. And he travels a lot.

 

Blame BlackBerry for making me have that as standard.

Had a BlackBerry Gemini 8520, lasted 2 days easily as it has like no features at all, not even GPS.


Then I got a BlackBerry Bold 9700 which had a whopping 3MP camera but it focused so great and had excellent images, also gave me 2 days battery life on heavy use thanks to its 1500mAH battery which is great for such a small phone or 3 days on light usage.

I know I can charge the phone anytime, I just don't like that inconvenience. With the HTC 10 it's even harder as it has a USB-C cable so I have to have my own cable on me always as most places I go to like coffee shops who have power banks are only iPhone or standard micro-USB compatible.

I like going as light as possible with no cables or chargers, with Android phones, I cannot have that without the fear of my battery dying on me any minute if I start using the phone heavily.

I don't know how iOS manages this great battery life, I used to remember back in the day of BlackBerry phones, on the CrackBerry forums, we used to mock the iPhone 4 users about their battery life and tell them to carry 3 charges when they go out, one for the car, one for the office, and one extra for emergencies.....

This has changed drastically now.... you'd charge your phone to a 100% then come back to it 2 hours later and might still be @100% or worst case scenario @99%

 

Main reason for iphones battery life is the 1/4th resolution display. PERIOD. Nothing more nothing less. Put a similar display on the HTC 10 it will give you a similar battery life. That is not because of iOS any-more. If this was 2 years back, sure it would be because of iOS. but now a days they are pretty much the same.

And like it or not, USB3C is the future, and in another 6 - 10 months it WILL become a standard. (give or take a few months)

Also i tried the SE camera yesterday vs the HTC 10 camera, the SE camera was noisy as hell. With heavy color smoothing all over the place. Just my case i guess. Only camera i actually liked better than the HTC 10 was the S7. That thing is near perfect.
But i know of way to mod the HTC 10's camera profiles to get it close to the S7's so its not a big deal.
Sure the SE's camera is fast to focus and capture, but there are a lot of trade offs, they are not using magical tech, the system basiclly just boosts the ISO (light sensitivity) that helps it to focus faster at the cost of noise.

Main thing is that for users like me, i just want one device to last me during the day with about 4 hours of screen on time and im all jolly.

 

The noise in the SE pictures was why he pulled the trigger on the 10 in the first place. Methinks @Phoenix just can't make up his mind what he wants. I have the same issue but I have a very strict budget to stay in lol

 

Man as much as I hate Samsung, that S7's camera I had was like a freakin' DSLR replacement, best camera I ever had on a telephone

 

you are right, I am never satisfied, that's a bug in my genes

I want the best camera + best battery life, very hard to find

 

My 10 focusses super fast though. Maybe its the lighting at work i guess.

 

oh and about the noise, we know very well that the HTC 10's camera has less noise as shown in the shot I took in the cafe BUT here is the thing, I was sitting on a table so my hand was acting like a tripod....

when trying to take pics of my cats while I'm standing, I could never get the darn thing to focus, neither auto focus nor manual focus by touching the screen on the face of the cat worked....had to take like 4 to 5 pics of each cat to get a half decent pic. Blame the software.

 

Nah it focuses lightning fast for me as well.

I haven't experienced this. Could be differences between international and US firmware I guess. There are also lots of third party apps that might work better or worse than the stock camera as well.

 

@Ethrem @bloodhawk @hmscott

Could this be why I was getting horrible battery life on my Android devices? because every Android phone I had sucked in terms of battery life if WFi is on, now that thread tells me something about these ASUS routers.....:

Android massive battery drain on wifi

 

That thread says the bug is 87U exclusive and affected all phones.

 

good catch, it just made me wonder because the excessive battery drain happens on all phones when connected to WiFi not just the HTC 10.

 

Check and see if there's newer firmware. These bugs quite frankly get missed all the time.

 

oh don't worry about, I've tried every firmware out there, stock and Merlin

 

Maybe try disabling the routers 5ghz radio, and run on 2.4ghz only for a while, and see if the battery drain stops.

 

yeah that makes sense, too late now the phone's gone

 

For your next phone

 

Turning off 5GHz massively kills available bandwidth though. If I use 2.4GHz it cuts my connection that normally tests at a steady 170/24 to a fluctuation between 40-70/6-14 and brings my ping up from 11ms to sometimes 50ms or higher. 2.4GHz is just too clogged.

 

It's better than paying with $ or Watts

I assume you already tried all the edge channels, and power settings to carve out a spot.

What about under the advanced settings in the router?, can you please post the 5ghz Advanced section?

There may be a setting to undo/disable/tweak that has to do with Wifi power that can make things a bit better, if the firmware fix doesn't work right off.

It also sounds like the problem comes and goes in different firmware releases, maybe look around for comments on the ones that have/don't have the problem.

 

From what I'm seeing everyone has the problem, they're just used to HTC crap battery life so they don't know it's not normal. HTC is investigating it. In any case, I've done tests with forced 2.4GHz only and there's no difference, I've also tried with power saver on in WiFi settings and it was actually worse. There are two conflicting processes running, one in userspace and one in system that are constantly polling the status of the power management of the WiFi chip. HTC has confirmed they were able to reproduce it and are working on a fix.

 

Installing iOS 10 Beta 1 now

 

Dont do it. **** tons of bugs. Im using it on a dev 6s right now. And its painful to use this thing.

 

Download canceled, thank you for the warning

 

I would strongly suggest waiting for the next beta build , that one will be much better.

 

beta 2 is still major buggy....

 

Very nice honest review:

 

Samsung Galaxy S7/S7 Edge price, features and specs: Galaxy S7 Active fails waterproofing test

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36763932

http://www.itpro.co.uk/android/2586...nd-specs-galaxy-s7-active-fails-waterproofing

 

Moral of the story: don't expose your phone to water intentionally. Seriously, there is no such thing as a waterproof phone. As long as there are speakers, water can always get in. It's just a marketing gimmick.

 

Also the way they tested is wrong. You cant exert external pressure on water and not expect it to try and escape into an empty space/volume. Dropping the phone in simple water container is a very different scenario.

 

While I agree with this, I still stand behind my statement that you shouldn't put your phone in water. I know people who buy these phones literally so they can take underwater pictures. And they're all idiots. The only way to make a truly waterproof phone would be to remove the speakers. If you want to use your phone in the water, buy a watertight case for it.

 

There is a filter behind the speaker who resist a soft pressure for under water. Did you open a s6 or s7 to see how looks a speaker inside? well its a separate parts fixed. Inside this parts, there is the speaker.And this little speaker get another filter protection. there will no be any other damaged parts from speaker because its 'jail" in a plastic. The distorsion listened after droping the s7 under water is back to normal after 15mn when water is evaporated. ip68 means something it"s not 'just marketing'... there will be always failing parts like when you received a broken or used laptop as new. Because yours fail doesn't mean generally the products is bad, you are just unlucky at all.

 

But you cant just exert external pressure and expect something to not go wrong. Big difference between simulated pressure and actual pressure under water.

 

what do you mean by external pressure and simulated? you mean throwing it violently under water VS taking picture under water less than 2m deep. I will understand first scenario is not safe. Second scenario is ok for a ip68.

 

Yep first scenario is close to what they did.