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Apple iPhone XR Prices Drop In Japan As Rumors Of Slow Sales Performance Linger Hothardware.com | Now, 27

Japanese Apple fans will soon be able to get the iPhone XR at a discounted price; new NTT DOCOMO customers will be able to save roughly $100 over the life of their plan. The price reduction is part of Apple’s rumored plan to cut back on 2018 iPhone model production.

The iPhone XR is the least expensive 2018 model, but its repairs could also potentially be quite expensive. If you do not have AppleCare+, a single screen replacement will cost $199. Many consumers simply do not buy Apple CEO Tim Cook’s argument that the hefty price tag is justified. Customers overall are opting for the older, less expensive models and this preference is currently reflected in the Japanese market.

When will Apple start with discounted prices (or just lower the price) in rest of the world market? When it's too late?

 

We won't buy cheaper iPhones since they might have cut corners when its cheap! :sarcasm!!!

 

There is only so many times apple can roll a turd in glitter and call it gold. The market is on to them, and have been since the 8. Maybe even the 7.

 

Apple cuts iPhone supplier orders for a second time this month Notebookcheck.net | Nov 28th
Apple has reportedly reduce orders from iPhone component suppliers again. According to DigiTimes, a "second wave" of order cuts is beginning to bring pain to some Taiwanese manufacturers. Apple is continuing to blame poor sales of the iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR for the order reductions.

Apple is staring down a potential crisis. Despite stellar reviews, the company’s latest iPhones are not selling as well as they had hoped, forcing the Cupertino King to cut orders from suppliers, reduce prices, and even restart production of last year’s iPhone X. Apple might be trudging deeper into the woods, though; the Taiwanese news outlet DigiTimes is reporting that Apple has initiated a “second wave of order reduction” from some of its biggest suppliers.

When will the third wave cuts come? Or shall we rather say the first wave of new ones? (New month soon and a new start of countdown).

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Not a price cut! Apple perks up soggy iPhone demand with rebate boost Theregister.co.uk | Nov 28th

Apple’s decision to make only incremental changes to its product, while continuing to increase prices, is now a mistake, some analysts believe. The latest bear, Wedbush’s Daniel Ives, cut his stock price target for Apple today and expressed the belief that Apple needs to “seriously contemplate changes for the next cycle of iPhones”.

 

Thanks capitan obvious. Ha ha ha.

 

Apple Is ‘Facing the Reality of Market Saturation’ Claim Analysts, as iPhone Sales Growth Slows Wccftech.com | Dec 5th

Apple’s behavior itself is enough to make suppliers queasy. The company has stopped reporting unit sales and its marketing strategy seems to have changed too. Apple is now offering different promos, discounts, and trade-in offers, probably in the hopes that people will upgrade their older iPhones. Even the iPhone XR, which was expected to sell in droves has not performed well in the market, according to analysts. It remains to be seen what Apple’s next move is going to be from hereon. Maybe STOP with promos, discounts, and trade-in offers and rather flat out start reduce the awful prices Lower it 30 or 40% is an ok start.

 

It was only a matter of time before people realised that paying more for less features every year was a silly idea. Compare the features of the iPhone XS Max with the Samsung Galaxy Note 9: enough said.

 

Or any flagship android device. The pixel, mate line, lg G series, galaxy, etc all have more features than apple's iPhone. That being said, most times the apple phone is faster as they have the hardware/software thing nailed at this point. That being said, I am moving to an android phone next go round, I have a year and some months left on the current plan with my wifes work, so I have to wait that long. But that's cool. I am happy with my iPhone/watch combo.

 

Why not throw out the iphone 8 for complete faceid based XR????
I will give a hint on how to get better standby time and SOT like iOS 10. Use privacy guard or startup manager to disable app at bootup and other background tasks. My rooted android test phone has impressive standby time like iphone 7 on iOS 10.3.3.

 

Because I think farce ID is crap, and I get amazing battery life now. I am a heavy user and at the end of the day I’m usually at 60% battery on average.

 

Is your cellular strength good after 12.1 update? My Mom's iph7 signal strength dropped by 20%

 

It will be more of it.

See also...
Microsoft says it is time for government regulation of facial recognition Betanews.com | Dec, 7th


Facial recognition is becoming more widely used in both general computing and in the wider world. Smartphones and computers can be unlocked with your face, but the technology is also used for security and policing purposes.

While most uses are legitimate and helpful, there is scope for abuse. Microsoft thinks it is time for regulation to help avoid this. The company is calling on government around the world to introduce new laws, but also on the technology industry to introduce safeguards to protect against abuse and bias.

 

But you're used to iph X faceid?
Most govt have our identity(iris,fingerprints and even face) in our ID cards.

 

Doesn't mean I like it. Not many choices if you want a special size phone and ok specs. Some too small and some too big.

 

Everything is as it was from day one on both my 6s and 8. No issues what so ever.

I did pick up a new speck case which is totally off topic, but it’s the best case I have owned. I had one on my 1020 and now on my iPhone.

Candy shell grip in grey neon yellow combo. I will be buying more.

 

Just updated my mom's phone to 12.1.1 and battery was down to 0% from 45% in a matter of 30 mins doing nothing. I did a battery calibration just to be sure and battery life is worse.

 

Did you do it like just now? If so, give it a couple of days sto settle down. I unplugged my phone at 8am this morning, it’s now 3 10 and I have 91 percent battery left with moderate use. Can’t ask for better than that. If you did it awhile ago, your mom has another issue.

 

It was fine with iOS 12.1 and with 12.1.1 the battery is just like iOS 11.
I think your battery meter is lying or somehow you got a golden battery with higher capacity. I think its the latter.

 

Nope. My wife has the same results

 

I'll wait for couple of days because battery life is utter crap.

 

May have to get the battery replaced under the program by the sound of it.

 

Their support page says battery is replaced if health is below 80%. So pretty much useless.
Its 100% SW crap. I'll keep everyone updated.

 

Do a reset too. Like I said, my wifes and my iPhone 8 and 6s on 21.1.1 work great with awesome battery life. Our 8s are obviously better since the 6s has three years of use.

 

No way! I just hard reset everything when iOS 12.0.1 had same issue.

 

Just trying to help. Best thing to do is sell the phone and get something else. All I know is the 6 iPhones in my household all have stellar battery life on the latest version of iOS my son, my wife and I all have 6s and 8s, and all of them get great battery life.

 

6s has no issues. I turned ON screen time and battery life is somewhat okay. iOS 12.1.1 is POS.
If the battery gives up midway its time to get Android phones esp. Pixel 2/2XL in bulk!
Never expected the device performance taking a hit just 10 days after warranty expired!

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/ope...le-can-cut-solve-iphone-sales-problem-2018-12

Just as I predicted, there is some serious pushback from consumers (finally) on how Apple is pricing their new phones. The XR is a crap phone for 750$, nobody wants to pay that for a "budget" device when the 450$ 7 is almost nearly as good. The XS/XS max are too pricey, I think we've found the roof for the price of phones. 700$ is plenty enough for a flagship device. Apple's greed has cost them, and I hope it continues to do so. Production and component orders slashed across the XS, XS max, and XR. Stop being greedy Apple.

How far they have strayed:


iPhone 6S/SE in my opinion, was peak iPhone time. Still strong devices today if they are refreshed with new batteries.

 

Even 7 is throttled like hell in some iOS 12 updates and I feel awkward to cleanup and maintain an iOS device when my mom suddenly complains its slow and battery is crap. Looks like Apple is testing new throttling BS in some consumer OS releases.

 

iPhone Xr: Japan Display throttles production for iPhone panels

The concerns about the iPhone sales of Apple not only burden the Apple share. The papers of the listed suppliers and partners of Apple are currently going downright. Now Nikkei reports that Japan Display is throttling the production of panels, because the iPhone Xr reportedly sells badly.

 

agreed, The 6s was the best iPhone to date. everything else has been either a rehash of that, with things removed, (7 and 8) or new craptastic notch fests with farceID. The 8 is fast and nice, but I fired my 6s up for my son again with a fresh install, and that phone is do different. Pop in a new battery and it will be great still after 3 years!

 

And Samsung follow Apple as hand in glove. Why not learn from Apple's fall from the tind? See link below.


1TB Galaxy S10 Will Cost $1800, Beating iPhone XS Max Claims Report

Additionally, the US$ price tag for the 1TB Galaxy S10+ is a record breaker. If this report turns into fact, then Samsung will have the honor(?) of manufacturing one of the world’s most expensive (partially) mainstream smartphone. Thoughts? Let us know what you think in the comments section below and stay tuned. We’ll keep you updated on the latest.

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iPhone XS & iPhone XS Max Holiday Quarter Sales Have Been Disappointing, According to Best Buy Data

 

Another passive cooled BGA BS that rivals gaming laptops at tenth of a processing power and expensive than BGA laptops.

 

by Brandon Hill - Mon, Dec 31, 2018
Consumers Have Spoken, 2018 Apple Products Were Too Expensive
Have consumers finally had enough of Apple's efforts to jack iPhone pricing into the stratosphere? There are numerous warning signs suggesting that this is the case. However, Apple's decision to not breakdown sales numbers for iPhones, Macs and...

The Morons talk...
For his part, Apple CEO Tim Cook contends that there is a lot of expensive technology that goes into its products, which justifies the high cost. “If you look at even at the phone that’s priced over $1,000, most people pay about $30 a month for an iPhone or $1 a day,” Cook explained. “People want the most innovative product available, and it’s not cheap to do that.”

 

Exactly as I had predicted. Apples greed has created significant pushback, and it’s about time they suffer for it.

http://time.com/5492878/apple-stock-iphone-sales/

Apples reasoning is still WRONG. It’s not “economic slowdown”, it’s the fact that outrageously priced phones will not sell. When phones start out pricing decent gaming LAPTOPS, we have a problem. “Weak overseas markets” ******** iPhone SE was selling like hot cakes because it was a fine, gimmick free, premium, affordable device.

 

Thought of buying iphone SE when a rep said SE2 is incoming and much cheaper than iphone X. Now, it seems iphone X was indeed cheaper.

 

I really do hope Apple reconsiders it’s position and releases and iPhone SE 2 in the same form factor as the old one, Touch ID, no notch, just bump up the storage, processor, and camera modules.

 

A proper 2500-3000mAh battery would be helpful instead of doing battery swaps every year.

 

Batteries are consumable/degradable anyway, but I understand your point. Bigger batteries are always nice.

 

5 ways Apple's awful quarter could impact the iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch in 2019 and beyond Macworld.com | Jan3, 2018
Tim Cook's letter to investors wasn't just a warning about the upcoming quarterly results—it was a sign that things could be changing at Apple.

Prices may drop
The most obvious way for Apple to boost growth is to lower prices. 2018 ushered in a disturbing trend, as prices rose significantly across all of Apple’s product lines. Unsurprisingly, Tim Cook failed to mention this fact in his letter, but it’s hard to believe that higher prices didn’t deter people from upgrading. During the lead-up to Christmas Apple pulled out every trick in its arsenal to boost sales, including raising the credit on trade-ins, but nothing gets people to open their wallets quicker than an honest-to-goodness price cut.

Fake Price cut doesn't do a ****y! When will Apple-Cook understand this?

 

Lol Tim Cook points fingers at everything except the prices. Earlier today he blamed Chinese economy slowdown, now he is blaming the 30$ battery replacement service for slowing down iPhone sales.


I’ll have whatever he is drinking, must be fun being paid big bucks to be delusional all the time.

 

He knows exactly who/what is at fault, and it’s the guys in the mirror looking back.

 

I think we all want it

 

I don't think Apple should decrease the price suddenly since they usually say Ferrari's/McLaren's don't come cheap and so does Apple products. Innovation(Copying) takes high effort for Apple and make it razor thin so that babies in the womb can use iPads and iphones for playing PUBG mutiplayer mode.
This time they might price iphones close to 4000$(512GB or more) and after a year the refurb for the model will drop to 400$.
Apple must die for now and kicked out of the market for good.

 

Well, apple is not going anywhere, and they will not price the next phone at 4000. I think this is a wakeup call which was needed years ago at apple. When the 7 was released. I think in the next year or two you will see touch macbooks in 2 in 1 varieties. touch imac, a new touch monitor, phones that actually have up to date specs, iOS is going to gain android type customization and features, and ipad will have a true mous'ing and keyboard experience. If not, then yes, Apple is done like dinner.

 

The last million dollar Supper for Timmy and Ive.

 

Ha ha. I do believe 100 percent that you will see actual innovation from apple this year. Their stocks dropped 30% in 6 months. That's BRUTAL. Also, Tim and JOHNNY ive are on thin ice too!

 

They should fire Tim, hire me for 750,000 a year no bonuses etc, and I will have some innovative coming from apple within a year. I don't care how they have to engineer it, not my problem. JUST MAKE IT.
Take the millions of dollars you save from not paying Tim, and put it into engineering! ha ha ha.

 

What will you do with 750k CAD? Most likely they'll force you to spend on iSheep products only. Join MSFT they like to use 3rd party devices like Apple and iphones.

 

I will want to use them then since they will work correctly then. BTW, that's 750K US!

 

You should appoint me as head engineer for the new Macbook Ultra line of sleek yet competent business PCs with enterprise features like easy on-site serviceability, innovative 360-degree hinges, beefy cooling, 3:2 matte high-resolution pen&touch screens for ultimate productivity, spill-resistant design including keyboards - and trackpoint to complement already great giant touchpad.

I'll keep the minimalistic Type-C/TB3 only (+headphone jack) philosophy, though - and develop a selection of docking stations to make business users happy while keeping both Apple's accessory department and third-party dongle makers fed.

Let's make Macbooks truly great!