The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    Official x300/x305 Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Toshiba' started by Bartlett, Oct 4, 2008.

  1. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Good. You have 1066 Mhz, and Intel chipset! And I almost forgot, the upgrade which will you, in real life give best result is to buy an SSD drive. I would suggest you to start off with a new CPU and SSD. You can later on swap out your GPU it is quite easy to change..
     
  2. Falcon666

    Falcon666 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Thanks for that. Any idea how the qx9300 compare to the likes of the i7s?
     
  3. Falcon666

    Falcon666 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    And does it easily replace my old cpu?
     
  4. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I'd say that its about 920/940xm> QX9300> 820/840QM depending what you do with it, but its definatly up there
    Its not to hard to replace provided you don't mind taking your whole computer apart
    The first upgrade i would recommend is the SSD, get a good one it makes a huge difference
    Then go for the QX9300
    Then fork out $1000 for a 9800m gtx it will be very hard to find a cheap one. First post of this thread has info were you can get one
    You could end up spending 1500-2000 maxing out your machine
     
  5. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Just found a cheap 9800m gtx here on ebay
    If you want to upgrade jump on this before they go they have international shipping so you are laughing mate
    So wish this was available when I had my 9700m gts
     
  6. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    As kenny said, it is quite simple to replace your CPU if you don't mind taking your whole laptop apart.
     
  7. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
  8. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
  9. Falcon666

    Falcon666 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Thanks Kenny/Tunjay. I will let you know how I get on. May take me a while.
    Nice pic to.
     
  10. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    YES, thanks kenny!

    @Falcon, keep us updated dude ;)

     
  11. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    no worries, is it still in 1650x1080 res?
     
  12. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Yeah awosme dude, thanks again! :)
     
  13. exile.90

    exile.90 Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    23
    Messages:
    83
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Hey guys, I have one quick question.

    I'm planning to replace my CPU to a QX9300 and one of my HDDs with a high end ssd. But before I do this, I'd like to know if the graphics card/s can be replaced to say a single or SLI 480m or anything like that. Can that be done?
     
  14. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    AFAIK, those are diffrent. Highest you/we can get is 9800M GTX. (Anyone confrim this?)
     
  15. WolfMemnoch

    WolfMemnoch Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Try installing the Utility Support Driver version 1.0.25.5C from here.

    That's what worked for me.
     
  16. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Hey!
    Thanks for that one my friend. I'll try this as soon as I get home and rapport back!
     
  17. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Just stick with the 9800m gts they are the best gfx setup you can get in the Qosmios

    Yeh thats right because its a proprietary gfx card, only other possibility is a gtx 460m from a x500 but I dont even want to go there
     
  18. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    How does a GTX 460M against 9800M GTX?
     
  19. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    hello. I have a qosmio x300-14x but I don't seem to be getting good 3dmark scores. I only get up to 12k with the latest drivers from nvidia. I have x9100 and 9800m gts in SLI. One more question. Can the gpu be changed to a dual 9800m GTX in SLI ? Thx in advance.
     
  20. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Not to help friend, no changes.
     
  21. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Quite normal. Any overclock? Also what does your CPU get? You can see how my T9600 does in 3DMark. Linked to picture on my signature.
     
  22. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I had the same problem and the only way to fix it was installing the new bios provided by the toshiba website! I also installed the Toshiba Card Reader Controller 1.00.29.02 . I dont remember where I found it I think its from a satellite that uses the same controller. This 2 things fix my fn key problems..
     
  23. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    This is the highest score I ever got with toshiba's drivers:
    3DMark Score 12899
    SM 2.0 Score 6254
    SM 3.0 Score 6018
    CPU Score 2713
    Now that I am running the new nvidia drivers I did get an increase in windows experience from 6,7 to 7,1 but I got a decrease in 3dmark to 5xxx sm2 and 5xxx sm3 dont remember exact. Btw do you know if it is possible to install dual 9800m GTX graphics card in this laptop? I have seen guys in this forum geting 15k with my config. How is that possible? Btw I have an x9100 3,06 and nvidia 9800m GTS in SLI. I didn't do any overclocking. Is it possible to overclock the 9800m GTS? If yes how? I tried the rivatuner with no luck. x9100 I could overclock it up to 3,4 with only changing the multiplier and about 3,8 with voltage but I did it just for testing purposes. I am running it in normal speed now since 3,06 ghz is quite enough for anything out there..
     
  24. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    The gtx 460m is better by maybe 10-35% judging by benchmarks also has DX11, for the trouble of finding out if it will work I dont think its worth it tho

    Sorry mate no sli 9800m gtx, toshiba have a special range for gpus for there computers and they never made a sli 9800m gtx setup

    You can overclock the 9800m gts with nvida system tools, try uninstalling the drivers boot in to safe mode run ccleaner and driver sweeper and reinstall the drivers, that might help.
    Could you give me a link to the guy who got 15k in 3dmark, the highest i have seen was sgilmore he got 13k with an over clocked extreme cpu and 9800m gts.
    Also with benchmarks its not unusual for you to get 1000pts fluctuation, I updated the drivers on my m17x and i lost 1000pts in 3dmark 06 but every one had that, games still perform the same if not better. so I wasnt to worried.
     
  25. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Our qosmio x300 have the nforce 730i so I would suppose that it would be possible for a 9800 gtx sli or a single 480m gtx.. Thw wattage is the same.. Well I am getting nearly 12k now that I update to the newer nvidia drivers were as before I got near 13k so it's a 1000 points loss but my games run smooth so I don't worry that much. I have clean installed the new drivers which I modified the inf file to install them. I used drive sweeper. Do you know any overclock of the 9800m GTS that would give same result as a 9800m GT or GTX if possible? I have adequate cooling since I undervolted my cpu and it doesnt go more than 50c. I have an nzxt cryo cooler which helps cooling the laptop. Due to lower temps in cpu I have max temp of gpu at 70c. So I think I could do some gpu overclocking... My main problem is with sc2. When I play it in SLI I get random black lines. The only fix is running the game on single gpu or in SLI but windowed full screen and this lowers my fps. That's y I was thinking about the 9800m GTX since it has more cuda cores (shaders).

    I am interested to see ur score with 3dmark06 with ur current alienware so that I can compare my old tech with ur newer..
    Btw do you know how much better would a 460m GTX be over my current 9800m GTS SLI ?
     
  26. WolfMemnoch

    WolfMemnoch Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Darn. I'm trying to think back to when I installed/uninstalled a bunch of stuff to get it to work. That was one of the files. I could've sworn there was another that I picked up that was a Vista driver, but my memory is failing me. :(
     
  27. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    For the fn keys to work in windows 7 u need 3 things to do.
    1) Update bios from toshiba website
    2)install VAP I have installed the Toshiba Value Added Package 1.2.28_64
    3)Toshiba Card Reader Controller 1.00.29.02

    If u cant find any of the above let me know I might be able to find a link for u.
     
  28. Itachipawns

    Itachipawns Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15

    Hey guys, my laptop just got back and they couldn't do anything about it, even after a clean install. So i just got my money back and back to the drawing board.....Games still crash even when in windowed mode and at the lowest res. Now i'm wondering if it really is my GPU....they were able to run stress my GPU up to 103C degrees by running two benchmarking tools at the same time. So now I'm stumped. I could take a gamble and buy that 9800 gtx to replace my 9700GTS..........
     
  29. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I would not go on and buy the 9800m gtx. Try doing a restore with toshibas restore disc or hdd partition if u still have it. If there are still crashes then it might be ur motherboard as well or more propably ur ram. Crashes more often are due to ram or incorrect display drivers. Since u have windows 7 it is easy for u to check it. While the computer is starting press f8. Then a screen will come with the save mode and that staff. Press esc. Under u will see some settings (dont remember now) but there is a tool memtest something like that that can test ur ram. If ur ram passes it over than 10 times then ur ram should be ok.
     
  30. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    I'll try this when I get home.
    Who is getting 15k? And, your scores seems quite normal for your setup. To be honest, don't give a .... about 3DMark06 see the real life performance. I'll maybe get 16k in 3DMark with drivers, overclock etc. but what about when you play games? Your driver is going to crash be cause of the overclock, you may get BDOS etc.
    Hmm, I'll try out diffrent drivers today and see how it turns out..
    I'll try this first, thanks! :)
     
  31. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I second that, ram can do strange things, but if you do buy the 9800m gtx at least they still accept a return so all will not be lost, I am still betting on gpu problems, my sisters x305 had random black screening and faint buzzing turned out to be the gpu.
    Do ubisoft games still play good?

    Sorry I don't think you understood my post the x300/x305s have special Toshiba graphics cards so they are physically different to the mxm 3 cards. This means on the Nvidia chipset you can only have the sli 9800m gts which is actually 2 gpu's on one board, if you have the Intel chipset you can get the Toshiba specific 9700m gts, 9800m gts or 9800m gtx.
    Before I said it may be possible to get a gtx 460m into a x300 from a x500 but first it physically needs to fit on the mother board and heatsink and then the bios still need to accept it, not to mention sourcing a gtx 460m and no doubt forking out a heap of dough to get your hands on it. To many ifs for my liking. Unless you really love your qosmio and have money to burn you may as well just buy a laptop with a 460m in it all ready.
    Your 9800m gts in sli is already better then an overclocked 9800m gtx (which when over clocked gets around 11k in 3dmark06 and 4-5k in vantage)
    For SC2 update it if you can, see if that fixes it

    My alienware gets about 14-15k in 3dmark06 and 13k in vantage, soon to be 18k and 14k with my 920xm on the way
    Lastly the 460m might be 10% better but it has dx11 support
     
  32. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
  33. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I know its 2 gpu on one board. I have opened and changed the cooling paste on bot gpu and cpu. The thing is 9800m gtx from the x300 with intel motherboard may be able to fit 2 of them in my laptop with an sli cable connecting them so achieving 9800m GTX in sli. I dont have those gpus so I cant really test it to see if it actually works.
     
  34. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I first time see any gpu problems with the qosmio x300 series. I know that everyone had overheating problems. This is due to the cooling paste toshiba adds to its products but after changing it all goes back and everything runs smoothly. It could be driver issues. As new games and apps arrive u need the new nvidia drivers, not the old ones from toshiba. I have modified the new drivers (succesfully I think because I had not a single crash since I installed them) and everything seems to work fine. Only my 3dmark06 score went down by 1k points. Dont know y that happend. I will do a vantage test and see how it goes. I believe u should 1st check ram. Then check for heating issues(furmark is quite good in that) then cpu stressing then drivers and finally clean install vista with drivers from toshiba. If vista works fine then it is something wrong with ur driver installation in 7. It is not worth buying a graphics card that might not be the solution in the end of the day. Black screen seems like a display driver problem to me. I used to have it when I was using forceware 186.82 . If u can give me ur gpu id I can try and modify a driver for u so that it works fine.
     
  35. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    As I said before, I don't really care about 3DMark if the real life performance is better...

    But, what do you mean with "I have modified the new drivers..."
    - Modified on your own?
     
  36. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Hello again. Well I don't care about 3dmark as well! Yes I modified nvidias driver so I could install the latest driver on my qosmio x300-14x . It is the nvidia motherboard version with 2 9800m gts sli. Everything works perfectly! :) So is there anyone out there that knows if I can install 2 9800m GTX with an sli cable in the qosmio x300 with the nforce 730i motherboard? Power consumption is not a lot higher so power is no problem. Motherboard is an nvidia 730i so shouldn't it be possible to update it to a dual 9800m GTX ?
     
  37. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Sorry its hard to tell what people do and don't know

    +1 for ram cpu vista and drivers, sorry I just have dodgy gpu in my head because of the problems my sis had
    I don't think its a heat issue though, he said they all ready stressed it to 103C in the shop for him and when he games it never goes over 83c or something


    Chipset will support it, power is no problem (9800m gts + 9800m gtx both use 75w)

    There is no socket for the sli cable for on the 9800m gtx and I don't beleive there is one for the 9800mm gts either so id say that the sli is done through the board or the PCI-E slot

    Im pretty sure this (part numbers match) is the 9800m gts board from the x300 if it is the chances of a 9800m gtx setup is looking slim.

    Doesn't look like the headsink will screw on to both cards or that they will have enough room to fit side by side and the PCI-E slots could be any were.

    Has anyone got more pictures?
     
  38. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    What do you need pictures of kenny? I MAY take my laptop apart again today be cause I'll maybe change thermal pads on my GPU if I can find new one. (Really hard to get things like that in Norway...)

    Also, Intel chipsets does not support SLI right?
     
  39. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Nah our motherboards only have 1 PCI-E slot so that rules us out for sli, although the chipset probably supports it
    If i could get a pic of the nvidia motherboard or the the back of a 9800m gts sli board i would be able to let these guys know if a sli 9800m gtx is at all possible
     
  40. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Well I am at the uni ! So dont have the screw driver and my desktop computer with the dissasembly guide to get u a picture. I will be able in xmas time if no one else post one until then.
     
  41. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    I would love if we could :)
    Looking forward to this! :)
    not working. Also my keyboard does not work sometimes, when I click back on numlock it does work. I have written half of this post with screen keyboard. I did some alt shift numlock things to get the FN keys work. Reed that on toshiba forums...
     
  42. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Did u update ur bios? That did the trick for me in windows 7. I believe u can try windows vista that came with the laptop if u still have the partition or the recovery disk and see how it goes..
     
  43. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Hello fellow qosmio x300 owners. I have the qosmio x300-14x with the nvidia chipset. I used the ntunes to overclock my gpus (9800m GTS). I was able to overclock to 875 core 900memory and 1700 shader stable but instead of gaining results I lost nearly half of the fps in every single game. Even 3dmark gave me a 9k. Why is that happening? Even returning everything to default the same thing happens. I uninstalled ntunes and everything is running fine now. Got my fps back. So is there a way to overclock gpu in qosmio x300 with nvidia chipset? I checked my gpu speeds with gpuz so they were correct. I am using nvidia driver 260.99 Any help would be great!
     
  44. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    You could try the nvidia system tools there you can overclock both your cpu and gfx card, may that will work?
     
  45. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    That is what I already used. Nvidia system tools 6.06 . I got good stable overclocking as mentioned above but the results with games was very bad. Instead of gaining fps I lost half of them.
     
  46. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
  47. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    How did u update vbios of gpus? How did u add the 9400m as slave. I have qosmio x300-14x with nvidia latest drivers 260.99 and I only get 12k in 3dmark06 . Would this be normal? Btw how did u overclock ur gpu?
     
  48. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    That is because you have gone way to far with overclocking! The thing is, when you overclock your GPU and it runs faster but it will use more of your CPU. You'll think that your score/FPS incrase in games with overclock, but that is actually wrong if you're playing a 'heavy CPU-depended' game you'll actually lose FPS and get worse performance. This is a known thing around here. So you must actually find a good balance between CPU and GPU...
     
  49. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    I allready have the last bios installed!
    There is something work here, this guy have 3 GPU's... Acording to him...
     
  50. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Well I have 3 gpus! 9400m g is the onboard one for power saving. 2 discrete 9800m GTS in SLI are for performance. So in total I have 3 gpus. Moreover overclocking with the nvidia tools doesn't help because even when I just intsall it with no overclock taking place it slows down my system (fps in games drop by half). Any adjustment of more power or less makes no difference the games still paly ty. I have an x9100 cpu so I dont think 3,06ghz is not enough! I can overclock it to 3,8 . I have done that twice for benchmarking reasons and it got me a max temp of 75c . I don't use it overclocked because I don't seem to need more speed than 3ghz. So I dont think my gpus are cpu limited...
     
← Previous pageNext page →