The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    Official x300/x305 Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Toshiba' started by Bartlett, Oct 4, 2008.

  1. SpecialEd

    SpecialEd Newbie

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
  2. Priest-King

    Priest-King Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    95
    Messages:
    201
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
  3. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    That SSD looks very nice

    I have only seen 9mm hard drives, so im not sure, other wise just take out one of your hard drives and see if there is an extra 3.5mm of room in the hdd caddy
     
  4. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I am buying an ssd for my qosmio x300 as well. I am considering a 240gb ocz vertex 2 2,5mm. Can I use 3,5mm in x300? If yes that will save me lots of money..
     
  5. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Wow thats tiny!, yeh I dont think it really matters how thin it is
     
  6. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I though 3,5mm hdd is for desktops and 2,5mm is for laptops. So what kind of hdd does the qosmio x300 accept? I would bet it is a 2,5mm ... When I opened it up it seemed to be a 2,5mm hdd...
     
  7. SpecialEd

    SpecialEd Newbie

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    the qosmio is a 2.5" hdd 3.5 is desktop
     
  8. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Thx. That was what I thought! I just got confused because of the above comments!
     
  9. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    I'm glad that it is not running on 3.5" that would actually make my Qomsio even more heavy!

    For the LCD screen, some sellers on ebay says it is 17,1" others say 17"...
    Any ideas?
     
  10. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Just measure it diagonically! :p I thought it was 17,1 but it is listed as 17 in toshiba..
     
  11. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Ah, but there is still a huge price diffrance between the first link and those on eBay...
     
  12. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Sorry thought you were talking about the thickness of the hard drives not the actual size 2.5 and 3.5 inch. My intel SSD has a 2-3mm packer because its only about 6mm thick without it
     
  13. SpecialEd

    SpecialEd Newbie

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    ya we were the 1TB HDD is thicker then regular 2.5" HDD trying to find out is it will fit in Qosmio
     
  14. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Which are you looking at?
    See if there is 3mm room in your hard drive brackets if not i wouldn't risk it
     
  15. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    How much did ur alienware cost kenny27? Is it good enough? Cz I heart good and bad things about those machines. How much does it score in 3dmark06 and vantage? Do you play sc2? If yes how many fps to you get everything on ultra? Lower and highest fps? Thanks!!
     
  16. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    All up I have spent about $4000 AUD that included the M17x, a bag, 3 year complete care warranty, a 920XM CPU and a 80GB Intel X25-M. You can get a crossfired system for a fair bit cheaper though
    Yeh its really good, Crysis @ 1920x1200 AAx8, very high settings gets about 20-23 average fps in the benchmark there are only a handful of games that this thing cant play maxed thats mainly because of bad crossfire support or ati's drivers

    Benchmarks with a 5% cpu overclock I get 19xxx in 3dmark06 and about p15000 in vantage

    I dont play SC2 but I have heard about 60fps on ultra @ 1920x1200

    Not every thing has been perfect though I have had a gpu die on me, but with in 2 days of calling dell I had 2 new graphic cards, the warranty is second to none, I had a talk to the tech who fixed it he said that since Alienware has come out he has only had to fix 4 so thats a pretty good record you just here all the bad stories online.
    Other problems include blue screening/freezing but that was fixed with a new vbios and gpu drivers

    Overall its a very good system I would recommend it if you can afford it, its just so much nicer then similar speced clevos
     
  17. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    I can smell that awsome machine from Norway, Kenny! xD
     
  18. Bartlett

    Bartlett The Prophet

    Reputations:
    336
    Messages:
    1,860
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Hey everyone.

    I have been too busy for forum browsing and whenever I had free time and wanted to go on here, I forgot my password and didn't want to mess around resetting it. But for today at least I am going to be on for a bit.

    If anyone wants to exchange instant messaging handles such as AIM, GTalk, etc. Feel free.
     
  19. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105

    OR Steam :D

    Hehe, Welcome back dude! :)
     
  20. Bartlett

    Bartlett The Prophet

    Reputations:
    336
    Messages:
    1,860
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Thanks tunay.
     
  21. Itachipawns

    Itachipawns Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Hey guys,
    After three trips to the PC repair shop, I have given up hope of getting my X305 back to the way it was. At least they really tried (the manager himself coming to pick up and delivering the laptop, everything for free). Can't complain about their customer service.
    So now, I've decided to cash out on a whole new desktop system, whereas my Qosmio will now function as my workstation for homework etc.

    Here are the parts:
    CoolerMaster HAF 922 Case
    CoolerMaster GX Power 650Watt PSU
    ASUS P6X58D-Premium X58 LGA 1366 DDR3 Motherboard
    Intel Core i7-950 3.06Ghz CPU
    PQI 6GB Kit DDR3 1333 RAM
    Hitachi 3.5" 1TB SATA HDD
    ASUS 1GB RadeonHD 5850 VGA Card
    LG SATA DVD RW
    TP-Link TL-WN951N 300M Wireless-N Network card
    Logitech G110 Gaming Keyboard
    Cyborg R.A.T 7 Gaming Mouse

    Excluding the mouse, the total price of the system cost me about $1300 AUD.
    Whatcha guys think? worth it?
     
  22. Priest-King

    Priest-King Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    95
    Messages:
    201
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I bought one of those 9800M GTX cards off of ebay, and it worked perfectly without a glitch, it even gave me a better score on 3DMark2006 10943. My old one was in the mid to high 9000's. I used the default test settings.

    Benchmark
    Version 1.1.0
    Width 1024
    Height 768
    Anti-Aliasing None
    Anti-Aliasing Quality 0
    Texture Filtering Optimal
    Anisotropic Level 1
    VS Profile 3_0
    PS Profile 3_0
    Force full precision No
    Disable HW shadow mapping No
    Disable post-processing No
    Force software vertex shader No
    Color mipmaps No
    Force software FP filtering No
    Repeat tests Off
    Fixed framerate Off
    Comment
    3DMark Score 10943 3DMarks
    SM2.0 Score 4984
    HDR/SM3.0 Score 5 K
    CPU Score 3566
    Game Score N/A N/A
    GT1 - Return To Proxycon 42.850 FPS SM2.0 Graphics Tests
    GT2 - Firefly Forest 40.219 FPS SM2.0 Graphics Tests
    CPU1 - Red Valley 1.146 FPS CPU Tests
    CPU2 - Red Valley 1.775 FPS CPU Tests
    HDR1 - Canyon Flight 52.088 FPS HDR/SM3.0 Graphics Tests
    HDR2 - Deep Freeze 51.452 FPS HDR/SM3.0 Graphics Tests
     
  23. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I reckon thats not bad, at least when you want a new better part now its easy

    I think default resolution is 1280x1024 which you cant select if you have the 1440x900 screen, but if its scoring better then your other one nice!
     
  24. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Funny to see that a Extreame CPU at 2.40 Ghz vs. T9600 @ 2.80 Ghz only makes 522 3DMarks
     
  25. Priest-King

    Priest-King Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    95
    Messages:
    201
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    It's one of the ES samples found on ebay, they were going to release the 2.4 quad as an extreme processor, but I guess they decided to move up the release of the i series processors instead, so all of the already made 2.4's were sold as surplus. They are much cheaper than the 2.5 extreme and they are supposed to be able to overclock just as high.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/INTEL-CORE-QUAD...100-/140476668630?pt=CPUs&hash=item20b50fdad6

    [​IMG]
     
  26. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Hello. I have a question. I know it is kind of stupid but I searched google again and again and I can't find a definite answer. Is the dell xps m1730 with x9000 and dual 9800m gtx faster than qosmio x300 with x9100 and dual 9800m GTS ?
    It has better gpus but it is running on an older platform have the speed for ram and not as powerfull cpu. So which one would game better? I have a friend who can buy second hand ones either the dell or the toshiba (nearly same price from a shop) and I don't know which one to tell him to get. Any info would be great! Thanks in advance!
     
  27. Priest-King

    Priest-King Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    95
    Messages:
    201
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    The slow processors or FSB could slow both of them down. To slow of a processor can cause a bottleneck in the data.

    Most people with the X300/X305's are having to upgrade the CPU to get the best performance from their machines.

    Then you look at the graphics cards, the GTS's actually have faster running GPU's than the GTX cards, the GTX's have double the pipelines that the GTS has.

    It really all comes down to what they are running on it I think, some games / Apps may actually perform better on the GTS card. and not all games will utilize the Sli feature. The system with the GTX has the slower processor and that could neutralize some of the possible performance gain the GTX could give.
    I know for a fact from a friend of mine that Everquest 2 will see no performance improvement with Sli. He had dual 9800 Ultras on his desktop PC, and Sli gave the exact same performance as the single GPU did.

    If it was me, I would get the Toshiba, because I know what it can be upgraded to processor wise, and that it can handle up to 8gb's of ram. Not all processors will work in most laptops, even if the specs for the CPU say that it should work. Not so sure about the Dell, it may be capable too, but I'm just going off of what I know. I sold the original quad core for my Toshiba to a guy with a Dell, the specs all said it would work, but it refused to work in his machine.
     
  28. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I know from other forums that the dell xps m1730 can only be upgraded up to the x9000 cpu processor. So this laptop is being maxed. The toshiba has an x9100 and can be upgraded to qx9300. Even though the x9000 has a 2,8ghz vs 3,06ghz same cache 6mb but slower fsb 800 vs 1066. So would the toshiba be a better choice for him even though he is not changing to a quad core? Thanks again!
     
  29. Priest-King

    Priest-King Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    95
    Messages:
    201
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    The Toshiba with the faster front side bus would be better, plus He can install a quad core processor in it for extra power. My G55 has a 2.8ghz/w 6megs L2 cache dual core in it, and my X305 with the 2.4 ghz/w 12megs L2 cache quad core runs circles around it, both have a 1066 fsb. I have actually run 7 VMWare virtual machines of XP on the X305 while the G55 is crying at anything over 4 virtual machines, both have the same amount of ram but the big difference is the extra processing power of the quad core. The best I could get on the X205 I had that had an 800 mhz fsb was 3 virtual machines and it had been upgraded to a 2.8ghz CPU/w 6megs L2 cache and 8gb's of ram.

    Windows 7 ultimate was the main operating system in all of the above tests.
     
  30. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    If the dell xps has Dual 9800m gtx I'd get that and upgrade to X9100 seeing as it all ready has a similar cpu in it with 44w power draw and a p socket I cant see why it'll be a problem, I may be wrong though, or are cpus with different fsb's non swappable
    Are you able to test them out, run crysis or 3dmark or something?
     
  31. Priest-King

    Priest-King Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    95
    Messages:
    201
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    You can put a processor with a different front side bus in, but if the board only allows a max 800 mhz fsb cpu to be used and you install one made for a 1066 fsb, the chip will run at a slower speed.
    If you install an 800 in a 1066 fsb system it will run at 800 typically. He needs to find out if that board has the fsb for the cpu locked or not. If it is locked, he can only use an 800 fsb chip in it and expect to get the performance the chip is capable of.

    Even if the memory can go to 1066 it is no guarantee the CPU can too, it is not uncommon for the CPU to be limited by the manufacturer. That's why I said go with the Toshiba, at least we know it can run the faster chip. The Dell currently has an 800 mhz fsb processor, and the Toshiba has the 1066. Also he has already found out that the Dell is maxed out with the X9000 which is probably due to a manufacturer lock on what CPU's can be used..
    The specs say it has a 945G chipset, so it should be able to handle a fast dual core CPU. As I said before, I have seen where Dell has locked what CPU's will work in their systems before. Even the X205 had a newer chipset in it, the 965 series, and it did not even support quad core, and quad support was not available in the 945G series either.
     
  32. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Do you know if the qosmio f50 is upgradable? I never had one so I don't know. And I've got people asking me..
    Can gpu be upgraded to 9800m gtx?
    Can cpu be upgraded to qx9300 or x9100?
    Can ram be upgraded to 8gb?
    Can the screen be upgraded to a full hd?
    Can the dvd rom be replaced by a blu-ray?

    Any information on what can be upgraded would be appreciated!
     
  33. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Yes 8gb of ram but only DDR2
    Screen should be upgradeable to 1440x900 (Toshiba TruBrite® WXGA+ TFT display, thats the screen they need to be looking for)
    The f50 is from the same qosmio line up as the x300 so there is no blueray,

    Ok for the 9800m gtx it should be possible but heat and power could be issues, and yes QX9300 and X9100 also should theoretically work as well, but heat and power could possibly be issues
     
  34. Priest-King

    Priest-King Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    95
    Messages:
    201
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    The F50 uses the same graphics card design as the G50/G55 series, it is more like a standard MMX card design, but like all of the others, the mounting locations for the heatsink and mounting it to the motherboard are not standard.
     
  35. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Sorry must a have been another model I was thinking about way back in this thread some one talked about how they bought a gpu from one of the other Toshiba and put it in the x300, not looking good then
     
  36. Itachipawns

    Itachipawns Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Hey guys, I just found out my black screen (and sound loop) of death apparently affected a lot of other X305 users, not just me. I found this thread on the Toshiba forums. Qosmio X305-Q701 Black Screen Crash (edit: Solutio... - Toshiba Forums

    Apparently the only known quick fix is using an App called Rivatuner. Not sure about how it works, but it does allow me to play my games again. =)
     
  37. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Well I have never had this problem with my x300 so it might be the intel motherboards or the 9700m gts graphics cards. Anyway a guy here at my university has a qosmio x300 with 9700m gts. He is using the new bios but he never had this problem. So ... Well try upgrading bios or the gpu to 9800m GTX and see if the problem is fixed!
     
  38. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    He is saying x305.... however, it can not be the İntel motherboards, İ have never seen this problem before running on İntel motherboard.
    Maybe, as tou said, a bios update wil help if he allreade don't run on last version.
     
  39. Itachipawns

    Itachipawns Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Oh really? My bios is currently 2.1......isn't that the latest? I don't know if i want to shell out around 300bucks for a new GTX yet........especially since I just built a new gaming rig for $1500....>.<
     
  40. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Read my post dude, however I can check when I'm at home and tell you what the lastest BIOS is. It'll take more then 4 hours before I'm home again tou.
     
  41. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    294
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Is the gaming rig the qosmio or another computer?
     
  42. Itachipawns

    Itachipawns Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Nah, it's a desktop. Here are the specs:

    CoolerMaster HAF 922 Case
    CoolerMaster GX Power 650Watt PSU
    ASUS P6X58D-Premium X58 LGA 1366 DDR3 Motherboard
    Intel Core i7-950 3.06Ghz CPU
    PQI 6GB Kit DDR3 1333 RAM
    Hitachi 3.5" 1TB SATA HDD
    ASUS 1GB RadeonHD 5850
    LG SATA DVD RW
    TP-Link TL-WN951N 300M Wireless-N Network card
    Logitech G110 Gaming Keyboard
    Cyborg R.A.T 7 Gaming Mouse

    I think it's a pretty good rig for $1430 AUD.
    I figured might as well get a desktop that is cheaper and easier to upgrade rather than have a laptop. So my X305 can still game on the go now thanks to that fix, but will serve primarily as my college work station from now on. I ain't letting it go just yet, the speakers on the Qosmio is still my pride =)
     
  43. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Awsome setup you got there! You're not the only one who love the sound of Qosmio :D
     
  44. Itachipawns

    Itachipawns Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Haha, thanks! It's quite a good deal for the price too. The only thing that bugged me was that the ATI Radeons above the 5850 was just too costly. The 5870( which most people would have chose) was twice the cost of the 5850. I thought about it, and I don't think the price really translates into double the performance. Besides, the 5850 should be able to handle games quite well anyways, not really worth dishing out an extra $200 for a 5-10fps increase. If it needs to be upgraded in the future, we'll see at that time. As of now, this is good enough =)

    Yup, all my friends are envious of the speakers, because they have to buy external speakers for their laptops, which even then, does not sound anywhere near as good as the Harman/ Kardon's =)
     
  45. sgilmore62

    sgilmore62 uber doomer

    Reputations:
    356
    Messages:
    1,897
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Ya, I'm still amazed by the sound on my X-305 whenever I use it which isn't very often. Think I need to take it apart again and re-apply thermal paste to CPU and GPU's.
     
  46. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    AH! sgilmore62, long time no see mate! Welcome back :D
     
  47. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    2.1 is the latest bios for the intel based qosmio x300 . But what u can do is try reinstalling it! The guy in the forum suggest a way with the usb stick instead of installing it through windows. Good luck!
     
  48. Matt8107t

    Matt8107t Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hi, I had a couple questions about upgrading my x305-q705

    1 Can I upgrade to the intel t9600 cpu
    2 Can I use 1333mhz ram or do I have to stick with 1066
    3 Will going from 4gb to 8gb and upgrading the cpu be worth it?

    Advice and suggestions will be appreciated.
     
  49. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

    Reputations:
    492
    Messages:
    3,711
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Hello and welcome to NBR!

    Frist, what is your current CPU?
    Most likley, you can use 1333Mhz modules but, they'll downclock to 1066 Mhz. But the 1066Mhz modules has somehow lower timings, I would go for the 1066Mhz with low timings.
    What do you mainly use your laptop for?
    4GB should be enough for most daily users, but yet again it depends. Give me more information please :)
    Enjoy your stay! :)
     
  50. judgment

    judgment Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    98
    Messages:
    505
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Actually ram is important for qosmios since they are using turbo cache. So it will borrow v ram from ur actual ram. When playing gta IV everything on high I needed more than my actual 4gb ram.. I don't know many games though or any other games except of gta iv that require that massive amount of v ram and ram..
     
← Previous pageNext page →