Qosmio x775 Models

What can you get by OC'ing the 580M?

I would have to get twice the performance to justify another $1k

..but having twin pipes and large access plate to make for easy cleaning and repaste would be worth some bucks to me.

 

I think the GTX 580m has a higher memory bus bandwidth [what that means, I don't know, but it allows it to perform better]. 580m = 256 bus, 560m = 192 bus.

If you've heard of the "gimped" 560m that are in the Best Buy G73s, they perform subpar to "real" gtx 560m because the "gimped" version is only 128 bus.

Since the "bus" is implemented at the hardware level, you can't overclock to make up for the differences.

Here's a good resource:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580M - Notebookcheck.net Tech
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M - Notebookcheck.net Tech


Good luck

 

The 580m would be an increase in performance assuming you can overclock it equivalently to the increase from a 560m (I don't haveresearch on the 580m just an assumption).
The questions you have to ask yourself:
What fps does your computer run at now? What FPS will it run at with a 580m. How much will this cost?

 

thank you for all the replies guys..by tomorrow i'll be an ex-owner of x775, im selling it to a guy. mayb i'll give a go with msi with gtx580m and let u know how it performs. Such a nice lappie x775. =) tq again

 

..if you get the MSI, let us know on the build quality compared to your x775.
Asus and MSI should be OEM for what that's worth.

 

Does anyone elses x775 make a faint whistling noise? Ive only had it a couple of days, but in a quiet room its very irratating. Kinda sounds like a tea kettle.
Also, I have to really lean on the touchpad disable switch to disable the touchpad. Is that normal for the qosmio?

Im trying to decied whether or not to rma it.

 

nope, havent come across this situation before. where does the whitsling noise come from? hdd? fan?

 

The touch pad key is a bit firm on mine as well, but not overly so. Yes, I have heard the low whistling noise at, what I remember, higher fan speeds during gaming. But, not very loud on mine. I wonder if fan speed programs will allow you to set different speeds for checks? My 775 will be hibernating the next two weeks till I get State side...

 

Another BIOS update for the x775 Qosmio. Looks like it address the "Throttling issues" again.

Here's a generic x775 support page with BIOS download:
Model Content Page


If anyone decides to try it, let us know how it goes

 

The whistling noise is there any time the computer is idle, or low load (like internet surfing). It goes away when I unplug it and run just on the battery.
However its still there when I have it plugged in with the battery out.

The Touch pad on/off works, but Its like the top case is not seated properly. When I press down on the case beside the button it funtions normally with a light touch. Otherwise I really have to mash down on it.

 

A voltage modded 580M that's overclocked to 850/1700/3400 will hit 18.5K GPU score in Vantage, which is a 100% increase over the 560M in most scenarios.

Other times, if a 560M clocks really well, it's still a solid 90% increase in performance overall. At stock, it's a good 65% increase at least, if not more.

 

That is and OC!

This was done on a Toshiba laptop? I'm wondering if a 200Watt brick was used...? I would like to see temps after running SWTOR for a few hours

 

I'm sure the higher bit ram goes a long way in performance since it is a performance increase without a huge heat hit. But again 10fps for $1000 is a hard justification. I'm sitting here looking at a processor, memory, wireless card, and ssd and wondering why I didn't get a barebone lol.

EDIT: BUT IM SOOO LOOKING FORWARD TO PLAYING WITH MY TOSHIBA and now 1.7... Woot!

 

I don't doubt that! My question is, running say... a dx11 game at max settings(I don't know what the standard is today), at stock speeds and voltages and same processors/ram ect, How many fps more does the 580m get over the 560m? I can see if its 20fps it is justifiable to spend substantial money on a 580m system. But if not (again my opinion) it would be advantages to buy a 560m system and save the rest of that bank for the next gen of system cards.

 

Nobody has tried the new X775 bios yet?

 

Do you mean the new 1.6 bios? If so I have it and yeah my computer throttles i rarely even reach 70c and I have it on my lap no cooling pad..Thing is still throttling like a ..Just downloaded Dc universe get dumb lag that i shouldn't get and weird sound bugs where they keep repeating the same over and over again. pretty much the same exp I have gotten with CS Source and League of legends still haven't been able to get a cd-rom so i can put 1.1 bios because as far as i know that is the only bios that will actually let the computer run correctly

 

I don;t think anyone has tried the 1.70 Bios yet.

 

Well here is my wei score with my 560 overclocked. I dont think this is to bad for a 560gpu.

 

Wow, 7.4, that's pretty nice
I think the WEI for a stock 460m/560m is 7.1 ?

 

Yeah great looking score. What mods do you have and what temps are you running at?

 

Yeah well ill be the first one then and give you guys an update. because the 1.6 throttling is killing me about to toss my computer against the wall lol

 

Cant wait to get mine

UPS: Tracking Information

 

Anyone testing BIOS 1.70 with Furmark and games to see if throttling is fixed?

I might just make the purchase for a Qosmio X775 since the GTX 670M is nothing more than a GTX 570M re-badge (maybe a bit faster) and Ivy has been pushed back to June 2012.

I could still wait for a refresh of the Qosmio with GTX 670M with Sandy which I think a lot of companies are doing since Ivy got pushed back and NVIDIA's 600M series is still on schedule for March/April 2012 (I think).

 

No mods, just a cooler master lap-top cooler and I have my video card over-clocked at 940/1880/1585

 

@ nemix77, we know 1.1 is good for Furmark so if 1.7 still won't run it I won't complain as long as current games and apps don't throttle.

Anyone try W8? When I get back in town, I'll try on spare drive..

 

@ hydra

So any room for overclocking without overheating and throttling with BIOS 1.70?

Also, I thought 1.60 already fixed the throttling issues so what exactly does 1.70 do (for 3D models maybe)?

 

Reports for 1.7 is a state secret at this time..no one is talking..yet By Alex's post it is an improvemet over 1.6..?

I'm 200 miles off the coast of Rio J Brazil, ATM, so I won't get to check things out for two weeks. I'm sure USNRoberts will be all over this before then

 

Nah I had 1.6 and it still throttled constantly. I just upgraded to the 1.7 bios and ill let you guys know how it does in furmark...haha and didn't mean to quote your post.

 

Okay guys so here are my furmark readings. Throttled terribly my gpu fan would go on i would get like 3 fps it would go off i would get like 9. I took a SS check it out. http://i44.tinypic.com/10y1i12.png. Officially getting to the point where i'm going to get a sludge hammer and go at my computer for a solid 30 mins. And then call newegg and said i dropped it lol

 

If it's still throttling, maybe revert to the 1.10 BIOS

 

Yeah I know I just haven't gotten around to go to the store and spend the couple bucks on a cd-rom. Going to Florida for spring break so money is kinda tight. Will most likely wait till I get back from that trip........But i did see that guys overclock stats I was thinking of trying that and see if it would just force it...Also just noticed that last furmark test was on balanced power. Did another one on high performance. Here are the readings http://i44.tinypic.com/11udwmo.png. oddly enough it scored lower.

 

Isnt right. Send it to toshiba and let them know

 

Send what my score or my laptop? And toshiba support is sh*** thats how I ended up here. And i would highly recommend to anyone not to buy a toshiba laptop or any big manufacturer. You are just better off building your own

 

That is kind of a stand off-ish statement. I assume you are talking about buying a barebone from a manufacturer much in the way that many big name companies buy... which kinda brings you back right here where you are except now you are trying to mail your laptop to Taiwan instead of Kentucky.

To answer your question though: I would call toshiba's repair facility number (you can find this by starting here Global Entitlement and explain to them that your system performance is lacking and you are having overheating issues and believe it is a motherboard issue. They will have you send it to their facility where it will be repaired.
If this is too much you are welcome to send it to me and I will do it for you for a small fee. I had a no wait, 5 minute conversation with an indian, and BAM free box at my front door in 3 days.

 

Haha true but that isn't tech support which I was talking about I was on the phone with them for like an hour and talked to the senior tech for a bit about this computer and agreed that they do take to long to put out there drivers and that it does make the computer null in gaming and that unfortunately there was nothing he could do so he did just give me a 3rd party website which gives you drivers with a new inf, which I did end up doing. And I do I have a two year warranty one year through newegg and another through Toshiba but I didn't want to send it in since its not technically broken. However I'm not overheating at all I don't even go above 60c. I'm just one of the thousands and thousands of people with X775 3d78 that nonstop throttles. But it seems like the 1.1 stops this issue so once i can get a cd-rom it should be fine

 

Anyone tried the new NVIDIA 295.73 Verde driver with the X775?

Also, can they be installed with fresh install without the Toshiba/NVIDIA driver already present?

Thanks,

 

Where are you getting driver from NVIDIA & Laptop News | Latest NVIDIA drivers and related news | laptopvideo2go.com If so I did try to download that driver from that site with the modded .inf but it failed to install. So I just stopped trying with the betas and went with the most recent non beta driver with no problems.

 

I did a "test" clean install last month on spare drive. I used one of the beta drivers; my thinking was the non beta drivers were black listed for the Toshibas.

I could be totally wrong there but will try non beta driver, on same spare drive, before trying W8.

If you have an old spare drive, try the same to preserve your working OS. I used the Digital River W7 ISO with the M$ USB/DVD tool for clean install.

 

Yeah when I was on the phone with them they said the only drivers that are for there gpu cards are the one from Toshiba official website. The other ones you get from nvidia and other websites like LaptopVideo2Go they said download at your own risk.

 

It has always been like this with manufacturers and I have always used laptopvideo2go or Nividia's site. I dont see what Toshiba would change about the drivers to make them more x775 friendly.

 

What did you mean by send it to toshiba? Are you talking about my laptop or my furmark numbers?

 

LOL, you might want to send the laptop? I would maybe include a list of application / games that throttles and maybe mention the laptop is not meeting your gaming expectation. Toshiba will most probably change out your MB/fans..you may get lucky!

 

Yeah true, but that is the thing I don't get why my comp is able to handle Skyrim on all ultra settings with constantly 30+fps no probelms at all. Thats why I don't think its a hardware issue. Because it can run that game perfect.

 

I sent mine. What you do with yours is really up to you. The whole purpose of calling Toshiba isn't to have them correct your problem over the phone. So you need to state your problem in such a way that it is clear and they understand that it is not repairable at the user level.
The card throttles because it is hot, not because of drivers. Options stand 1. make it cool 2. make it slower. No matter what platform you are on some drivers work, some dont, some better than others, some worse. If you are trying to squeeze $2,500 laptop scores out of a $1,00 laptop, you have to do work. Find drivers, find a cooling method, find the right overclock.

Take the knowns:
This 17" system has 1 fan for both video card and processor.
Both vid card and processor get hotter the more they are pushed.
Your system is trottling.
Systems throttle when they exceed a certain temp. (in this case it should be approx 83'C.)

Based off this we need make the system stay below 83'C. Do you need information on how to keep the system below this temperature?

 

I have been telling you it isn't a temp issue. If its not throttling in Skyrim then it shouldn't throttle in a game that taxes the GPU and processor a lot less such as counterstrike source, dc universe, and leauge of legends there requirements don't even come close to Skyrims. Also I am very conscious about my GPU and processor temperatures and I constantly monitor them when I game using MSI Afterburner GPU-Z etc... My system when I game runs between 50c to 60c. Occasionally 70c which isn't bad at all. I have done my research and literally read 1000s of posts about this same computer and people having the same issue. Its not a temp issue. I know you are trying to help diagnose the problem, but you have to trust me that those are always the temps I have and that I do always keep an eye on it. Also not throttling in Skyrim should help you believe my case a little bit more.

 

Can anyone confirm that the Qosmio X775 i5 version uses the same cooling system (heatsink and fan) as the i7 versions?

 

It has the same cooling. Only difference is the CPU

 

Thanks alexUW.

Good to know since I'm planning on getting the i5 version and upgrading to a i7 quad with IC Diamond paste.

Ivy Bridge had been pushed back to June (IMO, only worth the wait if you care about the HD 4000 IGP) and NVIDIA's 600M series is just a rebrand on the 500M series not true 28nm Kepler like the desktop 600 series.

 

Good call. That is exactly what I looked at and exactly the call I made.

@Awiggz20: ok so to get it right... Your system is throttling at standard temperatures on some games. Yet is not throttling during Skyrim. Can you post a pic of the temperature side by side with the throttle speed. I might can figure it out if I have the numbers.

 

Yes exactly right its quite weird. Games that make my computer work such as Skyrim it has no problems running and runs the way I accept it to. But games less graphically intense it throttles. Its almost like the less graphic intense games that should be really easy for my computer is having trouble because my GPU is barley getting used and then when it does have to kick in it Lags. And yeah I will take some screen shots when im playing the games it throttles in.