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    Qosmio x775 Models

    Discussion in 'Toshiba' started by bacnation, Jun 29, 2011.

  1. UsnRoberts

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    Are you playing with it in your lap or on a desk or on a cooling pad? Also, whihc model specifically do you have? Any overclocking? Have you tried underclocking? ( i know that would be counter productive but would give an idea of how big a tempt diff those higher end speeds make make)
     
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    BTW, thanks for the link. The Toshiba BTO site offers three WiFi cards but do not know if anything is black listed.

    @curl237 You may as well do the 1.1 BIOS, as many others have done. No throttling ever reported with that. Are you using max AA in vid settings? See what happens if you turn that and shadows off. I'll probably jump on 3 when on Steam or Amazon on sale.
     
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    mytech2012 Newbie

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    Hi Hydra,

    What do you think might be my laptop's problem? My CPU goes up
    to 95c and thermal LOG easily after a few minutes of starting any 3D game like AION or Trine 2... I am still waiting for my thermal compound from USA. I'm from Asia. It's my only hope that new re paste will fix my issue. I tried ThrottleStop one time and my laptop just shutdown. So I don't dare try it again. The heat is just bad. This laptop is like 6 month's old, it worked like a charm in the first 3 or 4 months. Just got this heat issue a few months back because the FPS started to drop whenever the heat is so high.

    My model is x775-q7272, now I only use it for normal works, can't play games.

    Hope I get the instructions how to open the laptop soon.

    :)
     
  4. hydra

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    The part where you said it worked fine for 3 or 4 months bothers me :confused:

    Help us here, there are a lot of i7 users; so did you open up anything, check for virus, are fans working normal did you add drivers?

    You may have TIM problem but not seen such a rapid decline, possible heat pipe failing from being dropped or other...

    Sorry, no real help not having your machine in front of me. You should have factory warranty so you may want to take a chance with Toshiba service. Once you open machine then your on your own.

    Anyone?
     
  5. UsnRoberts

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    I definitely wouldn't use throttlestop again. These components throttle for a reason.
    Environmental temp could be ones issue. Is it summer now where you are? Possible the first couple months it was winter.
    Are you playing any games you weren't playing before? Some games with push your system abnormally more than others. For instance, BF3 on my other laptop runs no issues and temps stay around 78'C max. Whereas in SWTOR they get up to 90'C.
    The other option could be a breakdown in your laptops cooling capability. For instance you could have accumulated dust in the fan or maybe some thermal paste/ 3m shim has become ineffective inside the computer. You could grab a can of compressed air and try to hit the fan with it for a simple dust fix.

    Just some ideas.
     
  6. mytech2012

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    Thanks Hydra and Roberts for the reply,

    I am clueless about the computer, this is my real problem. I'd like some idea how to go about my laptop:
    1.) I can try to open up my laptop myself, hopefully with some instruction from you guys
    2.) I can go to my local computer store and ask for the clean up service
    3.) I ask for service from Toshiba, I bought this laptop from Ebay, not sure how to proceed with this option or how safe it is since I am very far from their facilities.

    For myself, I really want to do it with my own hands because I honestly do not trust my laptop with the tech guys in my country. I got burned and bad experience with them. They are mostly clueless.

    I play mostly AION Game and it worked great in the first 3 or 4 months like I mentioned earlier in my message. Right now, it just throttles when the temp reaches the limit.

    However, my GPU temp is very good, it reaches 55c or 60c when playing game.

    I have all latest drivers both BIOS and GPU

    I will go ahead with the clean up and re paste if you guys help post the disassemble instruction.

    Thanks again,
     
  7. alexUW

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    As others have pointed out, first try to clean the dust out of the vents/fans with compressed air. If that doesn't work, you may need to repaste [thermal paste] the CPU.

    Good luck and keep us posted.
     
  8. UsnRoberts

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    Give me a couple days and I will post a breakdown. I will be opening mine and this is the 4th laptop I've opened so it should be rather systematic for me. I will receive it tomorrow and the processor should be the same day or close to it.
     
  9. mytech2012

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    Ok, I am waiting for your post instructions Roberts,

    My Thermal Compounds + Zalman NC2000 cooling pad arrived this morning... Before I used the Logitech N120 cooling pad... I noticed the difference with Zalman, the heat is going away fast with this great Zalman. However, the temp is still high, it's just that with Zalman cooling pad... the temp drops faster to around 80c or 85c when I ALT+TAB to check the Realtemp. When playing a bit long, the temp still goes to 95c+ or 98c.

    I still need to open up my laptop to clean up and hopefully I can manage to put new paste on my cpu...

    Roberts, please post step by step instructions to open this laptop... I am new to this

    I am very very sure that your post will be very useful for many many x775 users. I am very grateful and thank you in advance,

    :D
     
  10. hydra

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    @mytech2012

    Possible dust/hair balls on inside face of heat pipe fins?

    Try using using a vacuum hose on bottom of fan vent after you lock fan with tooth pick or other to keep fan from over speeding. With vaccum running you could use canned air or compressor to blow any hairballs away from inside to the vaccum hose.

    My thinking is that the canned air will dislodge any blockage to where? Yuk. Without an access plate over fan, cleaning out a big blockage could be tricky? Maybe something to try until usnroberts gets a chance to post his take down?


    @usnroberts. Hey, good luck with your project. I'm out of country for next three weeks but have plenty of popcorn ;)

    If you get a chance, please post any before and after temps, 35W TDP vs 45W TDP. If you can keep that bad boy 90C or under I'll be grinning ear to ear! Use IntelBurnTest for CPU only, if you can, to see what's shaking before you add GPU load?
     
  11. takovr

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    I opened my x775 3D Lap-top a few months ago to apply some "Artic Silver" to the cpu and gpu. Believe it or not it wasent that hard. What I did was drew a picture of the bottom of my laptop on a piece of paper then I put all the screws and hardware on the paper so I would remember were they went.
    I have my lap-top overclocked to 940/1880/1590. No heat problems at all ;)
     
  12. UsnRoberts

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    Great numbers for reference thank you.
    And this is a great technique for dis assembly. I'm surprised no one has found a maintenance manual for these yet. I think im going to browse for one now.
     
  13. UsnRoberts

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    Ok so my to do list is as follows:
    CHECK 1. Receive laptop -F'in FEdex
    CHECK 2. Clean Bloatware
    CHECK 3. Update drivers (why im doing this before installing the SSD... i dunno)
    CHECK 3.5 Install SSD AND 8gb RAM
    4. Run tests- 3Dmark and IntelBurnTest
    Document dis-assembly
    Repaste, install 2820qm, Install Wireless card
    Run tests- 3Dmark and IntelBurnTest
    Overclock and more tests Depending on temps

    x775-7270 Initial WINDOWS EXPERIENCE NUMBERS:
    Processor: 6.9 (apparent windows update increased it from 3.9)
    Memory: 7.4 (up from 5.9 again with the update x64 update most liekly)
    Graphics: 7.1
    Gaming Graphics: 71
    HD: 5.9 (7.9 Now with SSD isntalled)

    Someone might find these numbers useful. It should be noted the ram is gb i5 is a dual core so all of you with the i7, be thankful!
    If anyone has any requests to add please do let me know.
     
  14. UsnRoberts

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    What temp does your 560m idle at?
     
  15. alexUW

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    The CPU score seems VERY low; can someone with a dual-core sandy bridge chime in? The RAM is also low; my 6GB 1333MHZ ram has a score of 7.4 [my x505 also has a HM65 Sandy Bridge chipset]; the q7270 is also supposed to come with 6GB 1333MHZ ram.

    You mentioned you got the laptop for $750, did you buy it second hand? Maybe rerun the WEI scores again and see if it improves; if not check the CPU/RAM asap, maybe there's something wrong with it.

    Here's the spec page for reference: http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/qosmio/X770/X775-Q7270/


    Good luck and keep us posted.
     
  16. UsnRoberts

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    I updated windows and have fresh results lol :) And have updated my post above

    Ok i am throttling like crazy running Kombuster. That is with it sitting on my cooling pad too. I dont hear the fan at all though...
     
  17. alexUW

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    Much better scores; actually mirror my WEI with the only exception being CPU [my HDD is also 5.9, but now with your SSD you blow it out of the water]. My i7-2630QM is coming in at 7.4, I wonder how your monster i7 will fair....

    Keep us posted and glad to hear it's looking good so far.
     
  18. UsnRoberts

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    Thanks Alex! My fan isnt coming on so im overheating 1 minute into just about any benchmark and it throttles to 200mhz for a minute or so and kicks back up. Throttleing like it should as not to burn anything up... just no fan action :-( Anyone know any manual controls?
     
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    No fan at all? You know there's only 1 fan right ?
    I don't think there's manual control of the fans, but I could be wrong.
     
  20. UsnRoberts

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    No i see it and while its benching I can turn it over and look inside and its not moving. Its a refurb btw but is under warranty. I will call tomorrow and and complain.
     
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    Gah, that's really disappointing! Hopefully your able to exchange if they can't resolve the issue over the phone.

    Keep us posted with any progress
     
  22. UsnRoberts

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    Easy mode repair:
    Went to the support page and registered the laptop. Toshiba Support - Homepage
    Then called 1(800)457-7777
    Talked to Indian phone support. Write down authorization number...
    They say 7-10 days return time
    Await email and follow instructions.

    I recommend anyone with issues do this! Unfortunately I wont be doing a breakdown until i receive it back :-(
     
  23. mytech2012

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    Roberts,

    So sad to hear about your issue, hope you get it fixed soon.

    Look like I have to get my laptop to the tech guy in my country to do the clean up. I can't do it alone without image instruction since it's my first time.

    Does it cost much to send it back to Toshiba Facilities?
     
  24. hydra

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    No fan! Makes me wonder if it is pluged in? My new e1705 arrived without fans(2) running and kept shutting down. I called Dell tech support and told them fans not running, blah, blah. So tech support had me run diagnostics which totally fried the board, LOL.

    I had the "at home" service. Tech arrived with new MB and stuff, back up in 1 hour after tear down. Shame ALL brands do no offer this service?

    My friends Toshiba took 7 days, for turn around, after Toshiba sent box. I don't know if he paid there, but said Toshiba paid shipping back.

    Hey, refurb! Now might be the time to see just how easy the bottom case comes apart? :cool: Any of the screws show scratches or rounding off?

    Best speed!
     
  25. hydra

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    Keyboard removal; are there clips on top or bottom? I don't have mine ATM.

    My Asus has four half moon clips at top that are pushed toward screen but hard to see.

    The bottom case had nomenclature like M8 or M6 were these metric length?

    Thanks for any info.
     
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    To remove the keyboard you get a very small "flat tip screwdriver" and pry up the keyboard from the lap-top. At the bottom of the keyboard is 2 plastic tabs. You then slide the keyboard up and then you remove the little white plug. Once the keyboard is out of the way you can then disconnect all the other little white plugs. After that you flip over the laptop and remove all of the screws. Once the screws are removed you then pry open the sides of the laptop. The laptop should now be in 2 pieces, and you will be able to see the motherboard and video card and fans. Also before you start you need to remove the battery and memory. Hope this helps... ;)
     
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    New WHQL driver package over at Nvidia.com

    Be sure to get the version for mobile chipsets
     
  30. hydra

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    To clarify; the keybard is pulled up, from top edge, next to screen? Then, slid out toward screen. On-line I found a bad picture; there appeared to be 4 little pegs/stakes on top edge. This sounds easier than my Asus and far easier than prying up media bar on my FX.

    As soon as we get this posted, someone will post the PDF shop manual :rolleyes:
     
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    i have Qosmio X775-Q7272 i had formatted all HDD and installed everything again but i'm not use my gt560m because of optimus. i need default driver version.can anybody tell me which driver can change gpu driver when i try to play game? i cant play PES2012 or other games in 1600*900 resolution and high specs. because of stuck in onboard graphic card.
     
  32. UsnRoberts

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    After installing the intel drivers for the hd 3000 from toshiba's site, go to nvidia and install the 560m drivers. after that You should be able to right click the program or game you want to run and select which video card you want it to run on.
     
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    i already did, i tried all releases of nvidia driver but i couldnt run any games on gt560m after i had formatted my laptop.
     
  34. UsnRoberts

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    well if you are right clicking and selecting it from the pull down tab and it should be running on the 560m. How are you verifying it is not running?

    I suggest getting kombuster, making sure your default video device is the 560m in your driver settings and doing the right click method on the kombuster icon. Are you sure you have a x775? Screen shot kombuster running if you can.
     
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    Toshiba sent you shipping box? Sounds like you may get a new MB here in the States :cool:

    Toshiba went throught 2 MB's, HD, ram then upgraded my friends i3 to an i7 model. All that on a USB problem that affects ALL new Toshiba's, including mine, using an external burner with iTunes :rolleyes: At least Toshiba made the effort, and one of the reasons I went with the x775 sight unseen :)
     
  37. hydra

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    to add to usnroberts, you are showing both cards, no yellow flags in hardware manager? On top of the pull down you can right click on desktop and run the nvidia 3D application. There you can assign the app to either GPU if the pull down fails and add other options.

    Optimus will fail on occasional applications, like HW Monitor, which will crash under Optimus while selecting GPU. I have to run 3d app, drop back to desktop, then run HWmonitor. Other than that, Optimus does a pretty good job selecting proper GPU.
     
  38. UsnRoberts

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    The system is sooo much more simple than the AMD vision equivelent. You never get to specify video card you jsut set performance modes for different apps... and they dont stay so you are never really sure it switched. Bad all around.
     
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    I am shipping it up to and receiving the box from Louisville, Ky. I assume the mobo is good and the fan is faulty but if they replace any higher assembly and I get... anything more than I have... I wont complain lol.
     
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    I have a question for you X775 Owners.

    Why did you buy this notebook over, say a similarly specified Sager/Asus/MSI Notebook?

    I recently Purchased a Sager NP8130, but really regret not going for the 17" Sager, now XoticPC no longer has the GTX 560m option on them, which kept it in my price range.

    I have been looking at the X775, because I like the idea of the lower resolution screen to keep framerates/detail settings higher on my games. I also like the dual hard drive bays (something my current sager doesn't Have)

    Would you buy the same laptop again? If you could sell the NP8130 for EXACTLY what you paid for it, would you do so to buy an X775?

    I only am considering this because I don't travel too often with my laptop, and its mostly a office to living room move. The occasional flight on a plane may occur, but very rarely.

    What do you guys think?
     
  41. UsnRoberts

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    I am the same type of gamer you are. I love 1920x1080 but it gets so over hyped these days when I'm my opinion there are things more important to me about the screen. For me framerate over resolution.

    Honestly its hard to get a 560m in anything under $1000 and at this price point I love the construction of this laptop. There are a few things I would change about them. If you could pick up an asus for the same price I would consider it. But then you have to figure most of those are the best buy version with the 128 bit gpu ram.

    I bought for performance to price ratio and i think you are hard pressed the same from other companies.

    For me, I've had a great experience with their support and the laptop feels so good to type and the speakers are amazing for a laptop....
     
  42. Identitycrisis

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    Thanks for the insight.

    I wont be buying any laptop from Best buy ever again, I don't think. Unless I know it isn't a gimped version of anything. LOL

    I spent about $1300 before any discounts through XoticPC. and that was the upper limit. This will put me in line with the X775-Q7272 model.

    My complaints about my NP8130 laptop are the screen size, lack of 2nd drive bay, forcing me to use a drive bay adapter for my SSD + HDD setup and external DVD/RW Drive.

    That being said, I really like the cooling solution (I paid for the 95% screen, but it hasn't blown me away.)


    I'm really liking what I read about the X775, minus the less than ideal screen, and single cooling fan/heat pipe design. Is overheating an issue on these bad boys?

    Other than that I like the resolution, size, and the performance seems to be really good.
     
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    I bought my X770 (same as x775 but Eu mod.) because it was the cheapest gaming laptop with 560m at the time. And i already decided not to buy HP or Acer due to heating issues my friends have with these laptop brands. My only complaint is that it doesn't come with extra cable for 2nd hdd and it was an expensive cable in Europe. Love the backlit keyboard and super sound system, that is not common in cheaper laptops.
    Edit: i have the i5 processor
     
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    I was benchmarking mine, it was getting warm, but my fan was broken. So I wont say heat is an issue any more than any other laptop.
     
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    I've hit peaks of 84C (i5 CPU) in several games like Skyrim, New Vegas and a few others after 4 or so hours.

    SWTOR is supposed to be a real burner due to bad optimization. Anyone using the i7 running this?
     
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    That's a concern for me, my NP 8130 runs surprisingly cool, the dual fan cooling solution really does a great job. I will want to overclock it eventually, so I am sure that a single heat pipe design will be less tolerant to Overclocking.
     
  47. hydra

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    Absolutely, two fans/pipes is the way to go!

    I'm real happy with the i5's performance as I still find most games GPU limited. Unless you buy used, the 560M is a great little GPU, no?

    I would consider the Clevo/MSI but they were a bit above the $1k new price I paid for.

    This is the one I would like to check for temps and throttling..

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/toshiba/590773-qosmio-x775-models-43.html#post8328861
     
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    Yeah, the cooling is awesome I'm just drawn to the 17" size and 1600x900 resolution to push the 560m a little further.

    I got away with a 1366x768 resolution on the GTX2 60m in my Asus G60VX until BF3 was released.

    The local Microcenter has the Q3784 model in stock. I'm tempted to go look at it, but its a solid 45 minute ride one way, and I drive an F150 crew cab. Its an expensive venture just to go look.

    I have someone who will buy the Sager off of me for what I paid should I decide to switch to the toshiba, so I am not even losing any money in the deal if I do upgrade.

    I can find too much on how to disassemble the X775. Google doesn't turn up much for a repair or service manual. I'd like to know what I'm getting into if i decided to re apply TIM to the CPU/ GPU or if I want to mod the air intakes or something of that nature.

    I really don't want to deal with overheating issues, have the quad core i7 models suffered any of these issues? I know i've seen posts when doing burn tests, etc... But what about gaming?

    Thanks for the posts, guys!
     
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    UsnRoberts Notebook Consultant

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    I'm debating on buying 2x4gb= 8gb HyperX 1866mhz for my rig. Anyone have input?
     
  50. curl237

    curl237 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys, correct me if im wrong, whats the point of buying gtx580m where i can oc my gtx560m and get close/beat 580m benchmarking result.
    I was thinking on switching to msi gt783.. is it worth spending 2k+?
    here are some benchmarking results for my x775 (1600x900)...
    3dmark vantage P1757
    3dmark11 P2566

    oc'ed using msi afterburner core 910, shader 1820, memory 1400
     
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