Qosmio x775 Models

hye guys, ive updated to bios 1.6, and i still suffer from gpu throttling issues while playing fear 3. will continue testing other games as well.

 

Thanks for the heads up. I got some time but thought I would check here first.

I have Furmark standing by as this would always cause instant throttle..but not with 1.01.

 

correction guys, I actually get a glitchless hour of fear 3! updated to nvidia beta 290.53 and toshiba 1.6 bios. Am really enjoying my gaming session now.

 

!!! Great news! Keep us informed of other games and their performance!

 

Nope..1.6 throttles with Furmark.

I'll jump back to 1.1 but want to check other things. I don't have BF3 installed, my install disks not available ATM.

@curl237 If you get a chance, please run Furmark with your new Vid drivers. FEAR 3 still has the built in bench marks? Makes a handy tool to from before and after driver changes.

Thx

 

@hydra Sadly 1.6 still throttles with furmark! I havnt get a chance to try 1.1, hows furmark running on it?

I dont think fear 3 comes with built in benchmark..i'll try it with fraps on and see how it goes and post some result.

 

I had a X775 3DV80, hope can Optimus with new bios although its very unlikely the sandybridge can handle 1080p 120Hz

 

nvidia beta 290.53 + bios 1.6 on fear3(highest setting) with fraps on, min 27fps max 40fps. And most importantly throttling free! yippee

 

ya no throttling in skyrim too and dirt3 too no problems

 

playing skyrim ultrA settings

 

1.1 does not throttle with anything.

I wonder what or which apps "and 3D SKUs" Toshiba fixed? Well, at least two?

Curl did you use go drivers for the inf or roll your own? It's been so long that I had to make my own that my brain hurts. The last time I used the Go video laptop drivers, they were not complete with all the bells and whistles.

I've tested Skyrim, DA2, NVegas, Stalker-C.O.P. and Witcher Two, NP. I won't get back my BF3 Disks till next month! BF3 was the most posted game that throttled.

 

i only did a clean install with nvidia 290.53 beta driver. Well i have to say it works for me.

 

reporting in, played bf3 campaign without a problem..!

 

Darn, beta drivers still report wrong hardware..I was hoping that being beta they would install. Deleting old drives then going to safemode did not work.

I wanted to see if there was any real Skyrim gains.

OK, Curl237, now we need to know if BF3 throttles with 1.6 bios with stock drivers. But thanks, I would not try that as you may get locked out. +1!

 

I would shoot nvidia an email stating the refresh of the x775 Qosmios are coming back as not supported; others with 1st gen x775 are able to install.
Support

I do know they do add laptop support with the beta drivers.

 

So is there any performance gain if I update to bios 1.6?

I'm using bios 1.1 and it's working pretty well

 

Probably not. This is supposed to fix the Throttling issues that allow you to perform on par with the 1.10 BIOS; with the added benefit of having any fixed issues the later BIOS's address.

 

I need to do another IBT for my i5 vs your i5. First gen vs second gen.

I saw you set it to auto for the thread count, I always just put four threads just to be sure, however the Gflop count doesn't seem right. I know the second generation i5s are fast, but that's almost double from my i5 @ the same speed according to my tests.

Will test when I get home today and report back with my findings.

 

That's correct. I'm an idiot. The direct link I took to the nvidia site brought to 290.53-desktop-win7-winvista-64bit-international-beta. The clue to what I missed was right there!

Anyway, no gains in Skyrim. In ultra I average 29fps. In high, with nasty shadows off, I run 58-64 fps. The game looks very close to ultra, imho.

 

If you talking about my 2nd gen i5 then I read maybe 8% faster? Way faster than my old t9300

I'm worried about the high gaming CPU temps I'm seeing with these iCPUs. It's like the GPU and CPU's have swapped thermal profiles. I hit 84C last week, which look like my old 8800gts temps on my FX.

 

Something is wrong then, because I only get 17 Gflops in IBT. Your's is literally twice as powerful as mine at the same clocks, which just doesn't seem right.

Is there a bios I can revert back to for my motherboard here?

 

I would not put much faith in IBT. I know your faster than the old CPUs.

We might try to find another i5 owner to compare?

I would not think it a BIOS issue unless this affects your CPU..on mine it was the GPU that throttled as per programs like Furmark.

 

But your IBT test ran up 34 Gflops and mine hit 17.

Is there another way to test this? Because I know yours cannot be correct... My friend's Xeon X3440 at stock runs up at 35 Gflops. So a quad core hyperthreaded Xeon based on the first generation i7 line @ 2.53GHz is just as fast as your mobile CPU... Something is fishy...

I mean, the CPU naturally boosts up to 2.8GHz for both cores, all four threads. So it runs at 2.8GHz in games. Could that not be stable you think? Could this CPU have been unstable this whole time? I just don't get this...

 

1.21 gigawatts! LOL, where's Doc?

OK, we are a bit off topic here so I can only add this PassMark bench that you can download for 30 day trial. Maybe this is why some people hate syn bench marks?



Opps, here's another one..yep the X3440 is faster..dang it All this trial stuff is getting canned as the new laptop smell wears off...

 

I'll run the PCmark suite when I get home.

Just to see the real world difference here... if this is accurate, then moore's law sucks... I need to upgrade badly...

 

Alrighty, sorry for the double post, but here's the results. They're scary...

The image shows the second generation i5 on the left and the first gen on the right.

 

You should see the i7 in the mix! When all 4 cores get worked with the right app, our 2 cores get left behind.

This is why $2k or $3k laptops do not make much sense, the faster components are on the drawing boards. As far as some games, it seems we do do not need to be much faster than consoles, LOL.

 

That's not stopping me this time. I plan on getting a machine that will run and make Crysis cry like my days of old.

Already got a $2500 P180HM in my sights. However, this Qosmio will go down in history for me. This machine has been just plain wonderful!

Also as a side note, I disassembled the machine again and reapplied the TIM. Also, the GPU is... separate? Is it actually soldered onto the board or is it a socket it fits into? I mean there's a whole card in this thing.

 

Does the x775 have any options in the bios for overclocking?

 

I may be mistaken, but I think that they mean Optimus detection for the non 3d model, and 3D detection for the 3D model, separately. Optimus and 3D are not compatible. I also have the 3DV80, and all my throttling issues seem to have been fixed.

 

Not that we're aware of, however it's not necessary really... The motherboard can run up to the 2960XM.

 

did you manage to install a second HDD with above connector? I have a modell X770 that is missing second HDD connector as well and i hope this could help me, do you connect it to the mainboard or how did you do it?

 

Yes, the connector is in place.

The 2nd drive connector attaches with one screw that locks it into place. You wiggle and slide the flat ribbon cable into the cable header shown with arrow. Very easy to install.

The one screw must be removed to allow the connector to swing out of way, careful as ribbon cable is attached, to remove the primary drive to the right if needed to replace with SSD or other. Then the secondary connector is swung back into place and secured.

 

LOL, with the heat I'm seeing with these single piples I would not want a 55W part in mine. Well, I'm talking recorded 84C, with combined heat loads. Maybe I'm am just a wus but this seems like i7 territory from the post I've seen?

My next project is to take ThrottleStop and see if I can get away with some stable undervolting. Its a shame, as with the CPU alone, the temps are not any worse than my old Penryn t9300.

The x775's 1.2 BIOS has me wondering what Toshiba was worried about?

cheers

 

Not looking for over $600 laptops BUT got offered a new Qosimo for $719 plus tax.....?

Do I need to speed back to the store and grab that sucker?

 

A new x775 with 1 yr standard warranty and everything?
That's a great price for a gaming laptop with a GTX 560m graphics card! Most laptops with that GPU are easily $1000+

However, does the Qosmio fit your needs? Expect to be tethered to the power-cord, not much of a battery life.


Good luck

 

Wow, I was happy at not having to hit the $1200 mark.

For $750? It plays very nice for the i5, if this is an i7 it's stolen

Good find!

 

Just wondering, did anyone have any problems with there x775 lap-top after the new bios? I am still using the 1.10 bios because I had throttleing issues and dont want to flash bios again unless I have too..

 

The reports are all over the map, but; some games are reported to be fine with the 1.6 and or the beta Nvidia drivers. So, YMMV. Note that the GPU benchmark, Furmark, will throttle with all; except 1.1

My i5 seems to run a little cooler with the 1.6/beta Nvidia drivers and none of my current games throttle with this combo. My son locked me out of BF3 when he registered through Steam on his account. I will drop back to 1.1 if I get any hint of throttling. Using the disk method is easy and safe.

 

I just ordered the HDD module for the second hard drive from Spare Parts Warehouse. I'll let you know how it goes.

 

Note that the one (1) metric screw does not come with the adapter. This will be needed.

I have already broken two of the very cheap plastic "snap in" tabs off the bottom access plate. I'll order new plate in a few months. The bottom access plate uses one screw to hold into place. Toshiba should have used at least 2, then delete the tabs, and doubled the plate thickness.

 

I see two x775 screen swaps now posted. Would anyone like to share the steps or pictures in the process?

I know this can be a chore but any disassembly tips/procedures can really help your fellow users

 

Agreed. I found a Matte 1080p screen for the X505 line and plan on upgrading it but these steps aren't available either.

 

LOL, yeah. I guess the time involved and risk of borking your 1 year warranty has people a bit nervous. My luck; the darn thing would die..then I would have to do a major fast screen or CPU swap/drive subtraction before sending it in.

 

Oh my warranty is up. o_o So there's nothing stopping me but I still don't know how to take apart the screen... and I'm not really flowing with money at the moment. >.<

 

I started to create a video when I did my screen replacement, but scrapped it when I ran into minor difficulties removing the bottom part of the front bezel. The cliff notes version is this: you have six screw covers that have to be removed (4 from the outer 4 edges and 2 from the top middle). After you unscrew those now-revealed screws, you have to "gently" pull the screen housing apart. Due to the bottom part of the screen being below the bottom chassis, you have to be careful when trying to dislodge that part of the housing. After that is free and clear, the screen itself is attached to metal guides. There are 3 primary on both sides (as I recall)...once those are carefully removed, you have to gently disconnect the vga cable out of the back of the screen....then put your new screen in and reverse the process. Hopefully some aspect of this will help you get it done. Hope it works out for you!

 

Ok guys all I have to say is I read all these pages and I love you all. I love my computer I have the Qosimo x7753d with the 560m graphics card. But I can't stand there customer support. My drivers are so out of date that the games I play run like crap. I play league of legends alot and I get lag spikes weird sound bugs and what not. I called Toshiba Tech support and told them I can't download the newest driver 285.62 from nvidias website, yet they said I could so I gave it a whirl and who would have thought not compatible. So a couple questions...... It seems like going to the 1.1 bios or the 1.6 bios fixes problems and lets you actually download the drivers from nvidias website. However I do have a 2 year warrenty on my computer will reverting it to the 1.1 bios void it. Its just so annoying that I have to go through all this to actually have this puppy run to its full potential. I have read 100s of forums where thousands of people are having the same problem with there outdated drivers. But enough venting lol if you guys could let me know that would be great

 

I flashed back to the 1.10 bios when I first received my X775. I have never had any problems upgrading to the newest Nvidia drivers (just updated to the latest beta drivers today, matter of fact).

For what it's worth, I found the bios flash process for the Toshiba to be extremely painless.

As far as your warranty...I don't know exactly what Toshiba stipulates about this issue...but generally speaking, flashing the bios (if it goes bad) will not be covered by warranty. That's been my experience in the past with a previous Alienware. As always, YMMV. Hope you can sort out what you need to get done.

 

Yeah well I did buy my laptop through newegg. So I have a warranty through them, but then I bought the extended warranty which I guess is through Toshiba. So you definitely think its worth flashing back to 1.1 so I can get all the updated nvidia drivers. Because without the newest updates I can't game like I should be able too. My old XPS did better

 

And also to revert back to 1.1 do I just have to press F8 when my comp is restarting back up to do it. Or is there a special download I need