New VAIO P coming 9th of January

It does have slightly lower voltage but still 1.86GHz and 9400 is integrated, but it performs the same as 9300M.

 

In real life, given what you'll be using with it? No. e.g. Doesn't change the fact that the TT will flash up Office faster than on my crApple. Why so obsessed with defending deeply flawed prettiness on a Sony subforum? If you actually used the TT, Z / TZ, SZ and A/B Air on a daily basis you'll be very aware that apart from the 'woo-ee' visual factor of the Air (and it is considerably 'woo-ee'), the Sony's are in a completely different league to the crApple in terms of everyday productivity and quality where it matters.

(I'm sure then some Apple fanboy will spot this post and ask for detailed proof in triplicate of this really, really annoying people.)

 

Each to his own Vogelbunt. The only reason I commented on it was that it was brought up again.

PS. I've worked on a daily basis with MBA, TZ, SZ.

 

engadget too

 

I can't help but feel it is the return of their long discontinued C1 Picturebook series. Though the design is even wider than the previous models.
It should be their ultimate "netbook" with an ultimate price.

 

It might be something that looks like Wibrain UMPC ?

http://cyanatrendland.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/wibrain_umpc.jpg

 

I suspect its not as wide as that picture with the woman suggests - the FCC picture wasn't that wide

 

those are not the designates, I was using quotes around R and P but got lazy and dropped them.

perhaps R and P models would more correct as they are PCG-4R1L and PCG-1P1L, so P and R series, but they will have other names for sure, the FW for example was designated D model.

 

Gah. It's looking more and more like a netbook. I am hoping against hope it is a Core machine.

 

One thing they have said is they won't make a machine with the same spec as the existing netbooks so I think you won't be disappointed.

 

Could it have two screens like the Nintendo DS? That would be a hoot.

 

alright everybody imagine a Nokia E90

And make it LARGE i think that is what this is going to look like here's a pic for those who dont know what a nokia E90 is:

 

With all the discussion about OLED in this thread, could someone tell me why a 7" OLED photoframe is worth 20 times as much as a 9" LCD photoframe?

Apart from new tech and early adopter pricing - is there some innate benefit of OLED tech.

 

well one is contast ratio and LCD is like 25,000:1 whereas an OLED is actually about 1,000,000:1 a huge difference

 

There is also that one matter of battery life, an OLED screen uses less power than a LCD screen.

 

From Wiki:
OLEDs enable a greater range of colors, brightness, and viewing angle than LCDs because OLED pixels directly emit light. OLED pixel colors appear correct and unshifted, even as the viewing angle approaches 90 degrees from normal. LCDs use a backlight and cannot show true black, while an "off" OLED element produces no light and consumes no power.

OLEDs also have a faster response time than standard LCD screens. Whereas a standard LCD currently has an average of 4-8 millisecond response time, an OLED can have less than 0.01ms response time.

 

Sony have let it slip - its a P series, pocketable 1600x768, 8 inch, (wow) LED screen
128 SSD
or 60 GB
1.33 processor unknown (boo)
JKontherun has the scoop
It has a trackpad from what I can tell and tiny, tiny keys

http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/25/sonys-netbook-fits-in-a-pocket-might-not-fit-netbook-category/

 

Wow, easily over 1k - 128SSD is a great option and dual core atom finally! lol

 

1.33GHz Atom could be the Z520 processor (Since they only offer 32-bit Vista). Looks nice, like a typical Sony should.

Just from looking at it, I kind of want it. But with a smaller resolution screen.

 

@scoobie: Thanks for that leak, I can now pull the trigger for a Z!

 

Is it only me, or this looks just like TT?

 

That is not the real photo of it (sony insider and engadget say so).

 

The real surprise here is the 1600x768 LED 8" display.Almost everybody wanted something more than 1024x600 but maybe Sony exagerated a bit.If you thought that the 1600x900 screen on the Vaio Z caused some strain to your eyes what can we say about this?Let's see some DPI numbers on the most commons LCD's out there, just for comparison:

17" - 1440x900: DPI=100
17" - 1920x1200: DPI=133
15,4" - 1280x800: DPI=98
15,4" - 1440x900: DPI=110
15,4" - 1680x1050: DPI=129
13,3" - 1280x800: DPI=113
13,1" - 1366X768: DPI=120
13,1" - 1600x900: DPI=140
12,1" - 1280x800: DPI=125
10,2" - 1024x600: DPI=116

NEW SONY VAIO P: 8" - 1600x768: DPI=222 !!!

Considering DPI, most find people find anything lower than 110 very low (that means big letters on screen) and anything higher than 125 very high (small and uncomfortable letters on screen).

I think that the smaller the screen the bigger the DPI you can tolerate because having a small notebook, you have to watch the screen from a smll distance anyway, but maybe DPI 222 maybe too much for everybody.
I have to see it live to decide how it feels!

P.S. DPI is Dots Per Inch

 

CPU: Sony doesn't specify yet the processor.1,33hz can be one of these:

- Single core Atom Z520 (this would be very disappointing considering that it has to run Vista)
- Dual core Atom!!! (it would be interesting but what about battery life?)
- Ultra Low Voltage Dual Core Centrino ULV U7700 (higher performance than any netbook but much more expensive)

Weight: We have yet to discover the exact weight but it will sure be very low, so not a problem here.
Storage:128 SSD is a nice option but I am afraid that it will cost way too much maybe more than the notebook itself!60GB HDD should be a 1,8" drive.I hope not 4200rpm.
Dimensions:Ok with a 8" screen, it is surely very small but is it thin?
Price:The one million dollar question!It all depends of that.Let's wait and see.

 

One last comment:

1680x1050 is 16:10 wide format
1600x900 is 16:9 wider format as coommon TV's and recent notebooks
1600x768 is even wider!!!

 

Nice format for watching movies

 

Is crazy this resolution on a 8" sreen!! So, no OLED yet eh? Maybe this P will be the perfect supplement to the Z. I am curious to see the battery life and of course the price. I expect 1k for the SSD model.

 

I already had eyes problems with the Z and the 1600x900 resolution

So 1600x768 + 8inch

OUTCH

lol

 

Wow, 1600 x 786 resolution on a 8" screen!? The teaser wasn't kidding when they said this would "change the way you look at notebooks forever".

 

This might be a hybrid between notebook and a mobile phone, so people might use it closer to their eyes, in that case DPI might not be a problem.

How come they will put in 60 HDD or 128MB SSD, why not 64 SSD too...

Where is nixon thou

 

haha nice one Rahul

 

8" & 1600 in context (vs 4.5" and 1024):



If it's an Atom... and with a 1.33 at that... Yuck, no thanks.

 

I hope the keyboard and mouse are usable. Maybe there is a trackpad on the right of the keyboard as its only 4.5 inches in depth, so no room for a normal trackpad unless they make the keyboard unusable.

 

with that kind I resolution, it makes me think there is going to be some type of easy zoom on this model. like on my iPhone, I am always zooming in on websites to view them, but since it is so easy with the two fingers I barely notice it while browsing. maybe they will implement some type of swipes to make zoom very easy so the resolution is there when needed

 

Now I'm really getting excited. Sounds like this might be exactly what I wanted it to be! Basically a small netbook with a decent resolution. It really only needs two more features and I'm sold:

a) Good battery life, 8 hours at least when working with wifi off and screen brightness low.

b) Be reasonably durable. I'd like to be able to put this in a bag and not be frigtened for the saftey of the 4mm screen/lid like on my TZ (not that I don't still love my TZ).

I guess price will be the final determining factor. I'd be prepared to pay a fair bit. The screen res alone already makes it better than every netbook out there.

 

I think this new notebook is not trying to enter the netbook market...more like sony is trying to do battle against Korea's PMP (portable media player). Yes I know, sony already has the PsP but an 8" screen doesn't qualify to be a laptop, it's a handheld device that doesn't play games but can do word processing, (probably wifi and...3G network??) and watch movie in really high quality-widescreen format.

 

I still don't understand why sony chose 1600 x 768. I bet there would be a much larger audience at 1200 x 800 or something similar. 200+ dpi is just not comfortable after 30 minutes or so.

 

Not quite sure about your logic there Justwondering. There are several netbooks with smaller screens than that. The original EEE PC had a 7" screen. This vaio will certainly not be the smallest notebook computer out there, definitely not small enough to be classed as a "handheld device" in my opinion.

Also if it was intended as a portable media player I doubt they would put windows vista on it. This will be a fully capable pc.

 

Here is a picture..
Someone said it is CAN $2000..

 

That was already posted 1 or 2 pages back and unfortunately the image is of the TT series not new P series.

I could see this easily being called the Vaio Pocket (series)

 

o...So this picture is fake..?

 

I think it's more placeholder. They made a page for the new series but don't have proper pictures and stuff to go with it yet.

I'm still pretty confused as to how or why this page appeared in the first place.

 

I think the reason for the 1600x768 resolution is that 768 px tall is the smallest most people can bear. This is also why 1024x768 is far more acceptable than 1024x600. If Sony wants a screen 768 pixels tall, they have to increase the width accordingly.

Of course, I may be spouting conjecture too.

 

I'm not sure what you're saying there Mark. I think you're right that they wanted at least 768 verticle pixels, sony has publicly expressed distaste for the compromises of current netbooks, and screen resolution is definitely one of them.

Why however why they didn't just go for 1366x768 or one of the other more common resolutions is the bigger question.

My theory would be that they have tried to reduce the size of the notebook as much as possibly while maintaining a usable keyboard. I think we will find they have sacrificed the trackpad but kept a usable keyboard, this results in a wider and thinner form factor. So the choice for a very wide screen resolution was just a matter of filling the space. They could have made it narrower but then they'd just have had a thick bezel on either side of the screen. So why not just make the screen wider? I think it makes a lot of sense and is a smart decision.

If you're not sure what I'm taking about take a look at any of the old vaio picturebooks.

As for the trackpad I guess they'll just have one of those tiny pointer sticks or an optical "mouse" like the everun note.

Some people are really bagging on this device after the details that have been released, but I think what info has been released is really promising, and I think sony has been incredibly smart in taking this approach.

 

It's a deliberate marketing leak I suspect.

 

is this the vaio p?
scroll down to the last image

http://asia.cnet.com/blogs/digihunter/post.htm?id=63008075

 

Wow, looks nice, I am definately getting it if it is less than 600 dollars. Finger Crossed.

 

Great find,

Could be this. It seems a mini TT! Wow how small it is, looks nice, I agree...

 

less than 600 dollars? No chance, its a Sony.
Looks nice and great find by the way

 

I expect around 600 dollars for the 60 GB hard drive and 1k for the 128 GB SSD. Can't wait to see more pics and learn the battery life.