The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    Sony Vaio S13 IPS Display Mod

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by prone, Feb 17, 2013.

  1. ctenc001

    ctenc001 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    That video is very similar, however it only covers about half the process. You also have to remove the motherboard and allow for more slack in the cable. you'll have to follow the original post for that part.

    The display in the lenovo is the B1 that I mentioned a few threads back. That one and the one in the original post are the same display, with different casing/ brackets.
     
  2. ctenc001

    ctenc001 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I've completed the display mod using the B1 model display, and love the new display but I have a weird issue that's leaving me puzzled.

    Sometimes when i move the laptop (ie. tilt the display, pick up the laptop, etc) the display gets staticy like a tv station you do not get for a second, or sometimes gets a blue haze that will not go away until the laptop is moved again. My first guess was that the lvds cable was loose, but I've checked and ruled that out. my next guess was that I broke a wire in the lvds cable and so I unwrapped the lvds cable and checked for broken wires; the only broken wire i found I think i broke unwrapping it, I promptly fixed it, which had no effect on this issue. assuming it does not get worse, or stuck in the messed up state, its not a big issue, but I'm worried it may short out the resistor or get worse.

    Any ideas? should my next step be to purchase a new lvds cable?
    has anyone found an easy way to purchase the cable?

    EDIT:
    The problem actually went away after about a half hour of use 0.o weird.


    has anyone calibrated the new display? It looks great as is, but i assume optimum settings would not be the same as the settings for the old display.
     
  3. Runordie

    Runordie Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    222
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Just wondering, does any Samsung screens work with this mod? I know Apple Macbook Retina screens were manu. by LG but got switched to Samsung as there was too many stuck/burnt pixels.

    PS: Can anyone confirm if both screens (B1 and B2) require soldering, cutting etc? That's the only part that I am not comfortable about,
     
  4. alektoro

    alektoro Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    37
    Messages:
    107
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    B1 - cut PCB, shave a little cover, shave a little bezel, cut metal clips
    B2 - cut PCB, shave a lot of cover, shave more bezel

    Soldering is only required as a fix if you forget to unplug AC or remove battery before detaching the screen cable and blow the fuse.
     
  5. ctenc001

    ctenc001 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    if you cut off the middle left and right metal clips, there is no shaving to do on the cover for the B1 model =)
    I opped to shave the cover though to avoid any more risk of damaging the display.
    Its amazing how easily the display can be damaged when modifying it.
     
  6. cenkaetaya

    cenkaetaya Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    205
    Messages:
    198
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Hi, does anyone know if it is possible to install this display in to the VAIO Z VPC Z1, the first gen I5 Z

    My Z's screen cracked and they are around $400 on ebay....

    it just seems wayyy too much to replace it, but seeing this screen is so much cheaper.... i totally would.
     
  7. ctenc001

    ctenc001 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Im unsure, however thats an outrageous price indeed. If you search for "VAIO Z VPC Z1 display replacement" or whatever you will generally get poorly priced results. you need to find the part number/ model number of the display and search for that. Not the sony part number, but the part number from the original display maker.
    Doing a quick search, and without having a full model number from you, I think this is display you need. you need to verify this though, either find the correct p/n online or disassemble the laptop and check it yourself.

    https://www.laptopscreen.com/English/screen-part-number/LT131EE12000/

    This appears to be an alternative that also fits. Poor viewing angles though i think.
    http://www.amazon.com/SONY-Series-B131RW02-V0-Laptop/dp/B00BNMAADQ


    I can't vouche for the compatibility or quality of either of these though. I think the first link is the original display.

    also, i've purchased 4 or 5 screens from laptopscreen.com and can vouche for them. they generally have very competitively priced displays and great customer service. Even had one arrive broken and they immediately shipped a new one and did not require me to ship the broken one back =)
    They also have a live chat if you have any questions before your purchase.

    panelook.com will give you some information on different models such as viewing angles and power consumption if you find multiple options and want to compare quality.
     
  8. Aipher

    Aipher Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    After finally getting both the cable (A1881581A v120 2ch lvds cable) and screen (B1 model), I have run into a problem. The screen always remains black despite having the correct dip settings (0111). I have ruled out blown fuses and broken cable because the old 720p screen works and lights up fine with both the old 1ch cable and also the new 2ch cable I replaced it with (dip settings at 0001).

    I'm thinking either the screen is DOA or is there something else I am forgetting?
     
  9. ctenc001

    ctenc001 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Where did you get a 2ch display cable?
    Also be sure you are not booting into any recovery or bios , for some strange reason the replacement display will not power up when in those .
     
  10. Aipher

    Aipher Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I was lucky enough to find one on ebay recently, the seller is in UK.

    Thanks, it was booting into recovery, and even after that it was stopping at the user login screen. So I removed the password lock and made sure it boots into windows without recovery. After that I now notice that the backlight turns on, but the screen is still blank. How many reboots did it require to get it to display something on screen?

    edit: I have tried booting up with an external screen attached (and unattached), but still no image on screen. However, I do get some reaction when I change the screen output settings (using both displays, projector only etc.). Normally the screen will be very dimly lit (the backlight behind the screen itself is quite bright), and hardly noticeable unless you look at it from an angle. When I switch screen modes it dims itself to off, and lights up again, just like when you do it normally. So I'm still wondering what could be the problem. I tried different dip settings and still get the same reaction. Perhaps tomorrow I will try the screen on my 14" Vaio CW (which is already set for 1600x900) to see if it works.
     
  11. alektoro

    alektoro Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    37
    Messages:
    107
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I hear you. I broke a second IPS screen and gave up. It feels that the IPS screen is a bit too fragile, and the Vaio cover is too flexible to properly protect the screen. The old screen is much tougher. It would suck really hard if the screen broke when I travel.
     
  12. ctenc001

    ctenc001 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    does anyone know the part number/ model number for the original display in the svs13a models?
     
  13. ctenc001

    ctenc001 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Your trying this on a sony svs13 non premium without the 640m LE gpu currect?
    If not, have you tried the bios mod?
    After doing the latest bios mod I have the same results, just a black screen, but the backlight still works. I can even change the brightness of the backlight.. its weird. And going back to the original bios did not fix it.
     
  14. Aipher

    Aipher Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Yes, standard SVS13 with the 640M gpu, but not sure if it's LE or not. I will have to check tomorrow.
    No mods at all, except for the cable and screen. I did re-partition the HDD and remove some of the bloatware though.

    I didn't actually try if the brightness can be adjusted. Will also have a try tomorrow. Quite curious as to what's actually wrong.
     
  15. ctenc001

    ctenc001 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    do you know what the part number to the original display was? the 1600x900 variant
     
  16. Aipher

    Aipher Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I think prone posted the original model, but I was always looking at the Chunghwa CLAA133UA01 as the alternative until I discovered this thread. I believe they are fully interchangeable, but just vary depending on geography.
     
  17. ctenc001

    ctenc001 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Thanks I skimmed that post 3 times looking for it and missed it until now. First line haha <. <
     
  18. Aipher

    Aipher Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I'm just wondering, how did you (or anyone) get it work in the first place? Like how many reboots, etc. I'm not sure if it's the cable (you did mention you broke a wire inside?) or screen, or just that the system is incompatible? Which would be a major bummer at this point.

    Also I just checked and, my S13 has the 650M LE gpu.
     
  19. ctenc001

    ctenc001 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I hooked everything up, restarted 2-3 times and if it did not work I would disassemble it thinking the cable is loose. So it's hard to say I probably did that process 3 times or more. I also did the restarts without the hard drive most of the time and I would get a quick half second flash of the Sony logo indicating that it works and then did it with the hard drive
     
  20. Aipher

    Aipher Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Ok I will have to try some more. I've probably tried reseating the cables etc over 10 times, but never tried turning on without the HDD. The backlight does turn on every time though, did you notice if it did that on the times it didn't work?

    edit: so I have tried every dip setting possible with the new screen and still no dice. I took out the hard drive to try it all over again and still nothing. The old screen powers up every time without fail, and funnily even boot up fine with the dip switch set for the new screen.

    Have you had any luck getting the IPS screen working again? I'm contacting the screen supplier to see if I can get a replacement.
     
  21. ctenc001

    ctenc001 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    So people know,
    I just ordered parts from https://www.servicesplus.sel.sony.com/sony-parts.aspx and, while its a poor website and hard to navigate, they arrived without a problem.
    To be exact, I ordered a replacement display cable (~$60 after shipping). With this being the case, parts such as this are easily and readily available!!
    It requires you to put a business name, but I simply wrote "None" and it accepted the order.
     
  22. oozijk

    oozijk Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Hello,

    I found a 13.3 1920 x 1080 IPS Screen. Wanted to see if this could work?

    40 pin bottom left connector

    Exact LCD screen For Asus Zenbook UX32 UX32VD LED WUXGA IPS 13.3" NEW thin

    http://bit.ly/17V6ROh
     
  23. JaccoW

    JaccoW Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    8
    Messages:
    98
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I noticed that one a while ago. It would be cool if it did work. Seems like experimenting is the only way to find out.
     
  24. chh723

    chh723 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I found the model number for that screen. From what I'm seeing it SHOULD work but I don't feel confident enough to go through with it...YET. Here's what found.

    TFT LCD 13.3" LED N133HSE-EA1
    Itmes 13.3 inch Notebook LED PANEL Wide Screen
    Resolution 1920*1080 WXGA
    Surface Glossy
    Signal Type LVDS (1 ch, 6-bit)
    Display Color 262K
    Vertical Frequency 60Hz

    http://www.mini-laptop-accessories.com/
     
  25. ctenc001

    ctenc001 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I now have a spare lvds cable if anyone is interested. Its unwrapped due to a repair I made but its fully functional.
     
  26. evanraalte

    evanraalte Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    1 channel cable? Does that mean that SB users could atach this screen easily? since the SB has also an 1ch cable?
     
  27. chh723

    chh723 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    This is only speculation until someone tests the screen. I can't confirm anything yet and Sony likes to keep their hardware proprietary. But I wouldn't hate it if you bought the screen and tried it. ;)
     
  28. ctenc001

    ctenc001 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I Would assume the 1 ch is a typo. As I understand it this is a standard, and 1080p requires a 2 ch cable. I see tuat typo alot

    Actually a quick search on panelook.com has it marked down as a edp not a lvds display. Different standard all together and not compatible.
     
  29. ijozic

    ijozic Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    122
    Messages:
    877
    Likes Received:
    186
    Trophy Points:
    56
    But the replacement IPS screens used successfully in this thread are not used by Sony's and they work so if the screen in question has the same connector, I don't see why it wouldn't work as well.
     
  30. Aipher

    Aipher Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    As ctenc said, eDP and LVDS interfaced displays are not interchangeable. It would work with the Z series though as they are eDP.
     
  31. chh723

    chh723 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    This display is listed as LVDS on alibaba.com too. I just sent a message to the sellers to confirm the info...fingers crossed. Also I found this N133HSG-D31 which looks promising but not readily available.
     
  32. ctenc001

    ctenc001 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
  33. ninja52

    ninja52 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5

    So does that mean the LP133WD2-SLB1 screen is compatible with the SVS131290X (NOT THE 13p) with a 1366x768 screen (you said 720p, so I assume you have the SVS131290X)? I really want to replace this screen, I don't like 768p at all.
     
  34. Aipher

    Aipher Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I tried the replacement (S13 720p -> 900p IPS screen). Even with the correct dip settings and 2ch lvds cable I only got a blank screen (the backlight worked though). Sent it back to the supplier and apparently the screen works fine. Not sure what to do right now quite honestly, except trying the inferior ChungHwa 900p screen. If that doesn't work, sell this one and buy a new laptop I guess.
     
  35. anytimer

    anytimer Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    302
    Messages:
    2,160
    Likes Received:
    321
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Did you at least get the BIOS screen etc. while booting up?
     
  36. ninja52

    ninja52 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Well MonsieurX was able to do this on his, so he needs to show how... thankfully I haven't gone far to buy a screen/cable yet.
     
  37. Aipher

    Aipher Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I always got a black screen, no bios, no nothing. It would boot into windows as normal, and I could get output on an external monitor.
    As soon as I plugged the original 720p screen in, everything worked as normal. I have ordered the inferior ChungHwa screen for now and will post results.
     
  38. Runordie

    Runordie Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    222
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
  39. Aipher

    Aipher Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I received the Chunghwa screen today, and worked on first boot. Not sure why the LG IPS display didn't work, but to be honest the Chunghwa screen doesn't seem all that bad to me. It's nothing stellar, but the higher resolution helps.
     
  40. ijozic

    ijozic Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    122
    Messages:
    877
    Likes Received:
    186
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Did you happen to make some photos before and after the upgrade so it could be compared to the original one?
     
  41. Aipher

    Aipher Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I'm sorry but I didn't. I figured I didn't have a choice either way so I didn't bother. From memory the image quality is similar if not slightly better than the original 720 screen. The matte surfacing detracts from overall sharpness and has some slight graininess, but I can live with it.

    An added bonus of the screen though, is that I didn't have to do any modifications to the screen itself because it's a perfect fit for the lid. I did however cut off the 4 plastic clips on the center of the bezel with a wire cutter because they weren't snapping into the lid properly.
     
  42. ijozic

    ijozic Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    122
    Messages:
    877
    Likes Received:
    186
    Trophy Points:
    56
    So, it's Full HD? What about the brightness? The main problems I have with the original screen are the low brightness and the awful screen door effect. If those two were fixed, I could live with it as I don't use it that often.

    Perhaps you could take some photos of the new screen in action? :)
     
  43. Runordie

    Runordie Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    222
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Just wondering, is the B1 mod really hard? Is it possible w/o a dremel?
     
  44. Runordie

    Runordie Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    222
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Just wondering, is the B1 mod really hard? Is it possible w/o a dremel? What else can I use to cut without a dremel?
     
  45. ninja52

    ninja52 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Which of these models did you get? I just looked up Chunghwa screens that are 13.3".
    CLAA133UA01 Chunghwa 13.3" WXGA++ (Matte) (LED backlight) LCD Screens
    CLAA133UA01-400 Chunghwa 13.3" WXGA++ (Matte) (LED backlight) LCD Screens
    CLAA133UA02 Chunghwa 13.3" WXGA++ (LED backlight) LCD Screens

    Also, just curious, what is the model of your Vaio? Is it the SVS131290X by any chance?
     
  46. koskol

    koskol Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hi all,
    bought recently SVS13A1S9ES and I've been utterly disappointed with the screen - a perfectly decent laptop is being compromised by it. I'm considering getting rid of it but came across this thread and was thinking of having a go at the mod suggested here. I would very much appreciate some clarification on the below:
    - Is there any quality difference between B1 and B2 (contrast, response)? laptopscreen.com doesn't indicate B1 as IPS for example, and they have B1 ~$50 cheaper then B2.
    - with B1 do we still need to remove the keyboard and motherboard in order to get more slack for the cable as indicated in prone's how-to with B2?
    - Anyone noticed significant battery life reduction after the mod?

    thanks!
     
  47. Aipher

    Aipher Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I don't believe there is any Full HD screen for the 13" SVS. This one is 900p, upgraded from 720p (1366x768). At full brightness this is pretty bright (much too bright for me). I typically keep it at about half brightness in a well lit room (but then I don't like bright screens for anything). However, the viewing angles aren't great, but nothing to worry about when the screen is adjusted at the proper angle. At 2' distance, moving my head +/- 1 foot off center in any direction only starts making the colours go off, moreso vertically (to give you a better clue).

    I could take photos but I'm not sure how useful they would be with nothing to compare against, and also my phone has a pretty crappy camera :(.

    It's the first screen on that list. My model is SVS13116FGB from Singapore. I think the numbers vary depending on where you buy it.
     
  48. Runordie

    Runordie Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    222
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    HELP! URGENT!

    How do I place the 40-pin connector back? I have all of my screen modded, except I don't know how to put the 40-pin connector back, cause I needed more wire!!

    URGENT! HELP!
     
  49. Runordie

    Runordie Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    222
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I have a few questions regarding the screen mod,

    - Does anyone have the Vaio splash screen/BIOS on boot? I do not have that, neither do I have the Windows 7 tiles. It brings me straight to Welcome screen.

    - How is the screen in terms of contrast? On my LG, I don't really see red colors, maybe Orangate? Go on this site: http://www.hdwallpapersplus.com/wp-c...inbow_1115.jpg
    AND compare with a different laptop or monitor, clearly, the red is not as visible when compared to other laptops. Even when comparing to my other SVS13P, the red is much more vibrant, but it has bad viewing angles and grainy words, hence I made the mod.
     
  50. koskol

    koskol Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    One more to report successful modding, thank you Prone and everyone else involved in this thread for a great mod! Details:

    - I have SVS13A1S9ES (mid-2012) and replaced the terrible stock panel with LP133WD2 SL- B1 purchased from germany via ebay ( 13,3" LED Display Screen (matt) LP133WD2 (SL)(B1) | eBay). Panel in excellent condition, no bad pixels, crystal clear, proper matt.

    - B1 vs B2: B1 fits much better and requires much less work compared to B2 as indicated in previous posts: Minimal PCB cut (see picture, Dremel used), cut of metal clips (6 on the sides, 2 below the cut PCB sections, can be done safely and efficiently with a small quality scissors), minimal shaving of bezel at lower part to properly accomodate screen, had to raise motherboard to allow a bit more slack for screen cable.
    P1020299.jpg
    - BIOS issue: No access to BIOS at startup; boot shows Vaio logo, and then goes to windows login

    - Brightness: When initially tested the new panel, brightness controls worked fine, but after assemblying back the laptop, brightness is stack at high level, and brightness controls(soft/FN keys) are not responsive. Any ideas? I'm reluctant to reopen the bezel, but I can't see other alternative but to check if the screen cable is damaged or the connection to the panel is loose.
    UPDATE Updated the intel HD 4000 driver (9.18.10.3071, 19/3/2013) and brightness controls work fine now


    - Overall: B1 is an outstanding improvement on my machine; excellent viewing angles, proper contrast, vibrant colors, clear and comforable white. Laptop is definitely a keeper now!
     
← Previous pageNext page →