Windows 10 - Bloatware Free Edition

Use this for C++ (much better) - https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/update-v55-visual-c-runtime-installer-by-burfadel.72953/

https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=!AKfks_PRfdejRC4&id=C1FACEB7B51DAE61!120&cid=C1FACEB7B51DAE61

Also try Burf's Easy Ngen (.NET Framework) Runner V5 - https://1drv.ms/u/s!AmGuHbW3zvrBmaF7p-Sz89F916NELg to optimize .Net performance. Run this with NSudo as Trusted Installer with all priviledges. Only do this after running Burf's VC installer v55 first. Select the first option.



If you have the MSMG Toolkit, you can right click the .Net 3.5 cab and install it.

 

Mount the w10 ISO using File explorer and run the batch file from here https://winaero.com/blog/offline-install-of-net-framework-3-5-in-windows-10-using-dism/

 

You can do this via simple cmd line args using elevated command prompt or powershell (admin mode)

Code:

cd C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319
ngen.exe update /nologo /silent

cd C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319
ngen.exe update /nologo /silent  

If you installed an IDE or newer OS builds just use eqi instead of update.

 

Yes, but it takes longer and I think you have to do it for every .NET version installed if I am not mistaken. Using Burf's tool is automated and does all of them for you. You may have more knowledge about this than I do. I got a lot of the stuff like this I know from @j95.

 

As far as I know, .netfx optimisation works only with highest version installed on Windows, say .netfx 4.5 and later, so you need to run it once and every APIs and dlls are cached according to your installed apps and compiled for max performance w/o JIT compile for new apps.
Even with IDEs installed, it takes 5 mins on SSD and 15 mins on HDD based PCs to compile both x86 and x64 parts running concurrently.

 

Yes, it takes a while to finish. A lot of work going on the the background as you watch all of the text scrolling along in the DOS shell.

 

@Phoenix

Can your edition be used for a "redo" install? - you know, the type where you just mount the image, run the setup and tell it to keep all your installed progs and user data

My install was running fine until everything spontaneously went to s--t today (just like every Win 10 install I've done). I swear, I'd be better off using a pirated copy of 8.1 - can't use 7 since the beyond garbage sound… thing Acer gave me doesn't have drivers for 7 (go ahead look it up - Intel Smart Sound Technology. I just hope you don't go blind from your eyes rolling so fast when you see what it is)

 

Hmm... Intel Smart Sound Technology, eh. I don't know what it is and it already sounds pretty stupid. Maybe I would be better off not knowing. I am in a good mood today and would be nice not to mess that up, LOL.

 

Seems these days anything that has "smart" in its name is pretty freakin far from it

 

Yeah, words like "smart" and "extreme" and "ultimate" and "gamer/gaming" are always a red flag for me, too. Too often more bark than bite. Might sound impressive, but the execution sometimes leaves something to be desired. There are times when it is an appropriate description, but it is a strong signal to be a doubter and take a good look before you leap. Telling lies and making up stories has never been easier for people that have something to sell.

 

I would say it is hit or miss. the Zotac AMP Extreme gtx 1080 ti runs 3 degrees celsius cooler than all the other 3 fan 1080 ti designs. probably more so (they were all tested at 60% fan speed) if you raised it to 90% or so and wear headphones.

 

Can I later on update windows normally in this bloatware free edition? Or should I manually update?

 

you can update normally. This is not a cracked version buddy. although updates will not come before the 17th of October which is the official launch date.

 

KB4043961 for Windows 10 v1709 released with fixes

Download: http://www.mediafire.com/file/oc8ogrogmguodu8/Windows10.0-KB4043961-x64.cab

How to install .CAB updates:
1) Rename whatever update you are about to install to update.cab
2) Create a folder in the root of C:\ and name that folder Update
3) Cut/Paste that update.cap into the Update folder in the root of C:\
4) Click on the Start Menu
5) Navigate to All Programs > Windows System > then right click on Command Prompt and choose Run as Administrator
6) Copy/paste the below command into the command prompt window
dism /online /add-package /packagepath:C:\update\update.cab
7) After the update has been installed, reboot your computer then delete the folder you created earlier in the root of C:\ called update

This update brings the Windows 10 Redstone 3 up to build: 16299.19

• Fixed issue where, after removing apps, they’re reinstalled on every restart, logoff, and login.
• Fixed issue where localization of the error output from a JET database is broken. Only English error strings are reported.
• Security updates to Windows kernel-mode drivers, Microsoft Graphics Component, Internet Explorer, Windows kernel, Microsoft Windows Search Component, Windows TPM, Windows NTLM, Device Guard, Microsoft Scripting Engine, Windows Wireless Networking, Microsoft Windows DNS, Windows Server, Microsoft JET Database Engine, and the Windows SMB Server.

 

But why let the OS automatically do the update?

RS 2 or 3 ?

 

Thank you for the correction Mr.

 

Man, so I think I might just have to deal with going to to windows 7 or getting all of the windows 10 updates. My event log is just slewn with error messages and issues that I've never had on any other windows 10 installation. Every night while I'm a sleep my laptop freezes up and it's due to some PCI Express Root Port Error that keeps flooding my event viewer system logs.



Kind of ridiculous and I'm not sure if this is something that needs to be resolved with better drivers or a different OS all together. But there are over 1,000 entries alone just over the past 2 days for this Root Port Error. I might have to sacrifice my privacy for stability as it seems like the privacy might be causing more issues than it is resolving for me.



Edit: I'm actually reading through a similar thread with @syscrusher having the exact same issues I am having so I'm going to just follow through on things he did to see if that fixes stuff. If you can provide any additional help @syscrusher that would be phenomenal.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...16l-g-1080-15-6-owners-lounge.797128/page-783

 

It seems like a bug according to this link at Github https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/7184f5b451cf3dc61de79091d235b5d2bba2782d.patch
Keep an eye on the SSD or you can try wiping the gold contacts of SSD and on the m.2 port too and before that clear that event log if needed.
That errors are related to Intel PCIe ports connected to SSD or maybe an issue with IRST driver.

 

I went ahead and uninstalled the IRST driver as I don't know if that is even really needed TBH. Along side that, is the Samsun NVM Express Driver also needed? I'm using a 960 EVO M.2 as my main Os drive.

 

Are you using RAID or AHCI? I believe for Samsung NVMe driver you need AHCI, correct? For testing, simply uninstall that NVMe driver from Samsung and switch to Microsoft NVMe driver.

 

I am using AHCI, I have no reason for raid with only 1 drive (as far as I'm aware. Lol). I don't think I can download any of the Microsoft Updates for those drivers but I could be wrong. Giving it a shot now and will report back. Also clearing the logs.

 

Looks like a **** ton of my drivers were outdated... Maybe I should try updating them as well...

 

Don't use driver update utility. Just stick with OEM drivers for now.

 

This, those driver update tools may damage your system beyond any repair other than a full format. They are not designed/tested on your laptop.

 

I'm done with RS3, at least for now. I've tried make it a go with Pro and Enterprise and both are worthless buggy crap. Too many issues to deal with on both machines and I've got no time to waste dealing with their nonsense. Networking bugs and printer issues, especially, made me ask myself this afternoon why I was putting up with this.

I'll give the Redmond Retards about 4 to 6 months worth of Patch Tuesday crap to get their act together and maybe give it a second look at that point. Went back to RS2 on both machines from my Reflect image in just a couple of minutes on each machine. Macrium Reflect FTW.

Good advice. I don't know how many times I have said it. Maybe all three of us saying the same thing will do the trick. Looking for new drivers for everything when the drivers you already have work perfectly is a waste of time. They don't need to be new to be good drivers, and often because they are new they are not good.

 

I know you hate win 8.1 but you should really consider giving it another shot. I love it, super snappy, anti spy beacon is all I need, and paranoid firewall. WSUS only offline updates. I am loving it so far, just have to uninstall that bloat crap, but its easy enough. its very snappy and solid. it may just be placebo effect but I think when I click to load up a program it loads faster now too, even just click on a website or something seems quicker, haha weird. I think win 10 really is a load of crap, or I am having some placebo haha

 

Sorry, bro. There is no way I will go back to that worthless OS, LOL. I hated it worse than I hate W10. I'm already dual booting W7 with 10 on my laptops, so I have no reason to even consider W8.X for a second. But, I do agree with your conclusion that W10 is a load of crap.

The Redmond Retards need to just cool it with making W10 in a constant state of unstable turmoil. It's really stupid. There was no need for RS2 or RS3. Neither of them bring anything to the table that I find any value in... just one silly gimmick upon another. Now the talking heads are already chirping about RS4. They need to slow down and get things right and stop messing up their own messes with silly things that add no value. It reminds me of spitting into a pond full of goldfish and watching them fight over who gets to eat the lung cookie.

 

So, not to get too off topic in this Windows 10 thread, but if one were to go back to windows 7, is there a specific version that is also pretty light on the extra apps and only has all the major updates and essentials to work and game on it without issues?

 

Yeah I wish Phoenix would make a win 7 gamer edition, all needed updates for gaming, security, no telemetry, no windows defender, and no windows update... I am on NVMe though and win 7 is hard to install on NVME... so maybe he could make it NVME ready to go as well

LOL awww poor phoenix, his loyal citizens all demanding extra work and he isn't even raising taxes on the population...

Cyborg Commando Ninja Mark IV signing off.

 

Is is really a pain to install Windows 7 onto an M.2 ssd? I never would have though. I figured it would just accept it like any OS should go onto it. What are the troubles?


Edit: Nevermind, just realized NVMe is an actual PCIe SSD.

 

Funny you should say that. I absolutely curse the day RS2 ended up on my machine. Had all the same problems with bugs, etc. that you're having now. RS3 on the other hand has been pretty stable. Ignore my earlier post about things going to s--t, I forgot that I "upgraded" my video drivers the day before - stupidly I did both at the same time so I have no idea which one was causing the problems.

I do agree with you about fixing all the damn problems first before they go adding new "features" tho

 

Here I sit watching all the mess. And @Phoenix tried hard to push me over on the new Alpha version Even if I had a speedy Internet... I would wait!!

 

To install Windows 7 on newer machines is not difficult. You need to add USB 3.0 drivers and NVMe support if you use NVMe. Regular M.2 does not require NVMe drivers. I am running Windows 7 Pro x64 on a 960 Pro and it works great. You also need to have a BIOS that supports Legacy mode or UEFI with CSM. Most better laptops support this. Some of the el cheapo trashbooks do not. Windows 7 will run in UEFI mode as long as you do not use UEFI video (GOP). It needs Legacy video (VGA).

You can easily add the USB 3.0 and NVMe support to Windows 7 using MSMG Toolkit, or you can follow the excellent guide here in the forum.

[Guide] Installing Windows 7 on an NVME SSD (from a USB 3.0 thumbdrive)

Both methods have an identical end result and work the same. MSMG Toolkit is easier, because all you have to do is drop the drivers in the subfolder for W7 before customizing using the 'add drivers' feature and creating an ISO. You must use the INF type driver files and not an installer type.

For updates, install all of them at once and be done with it using the Simplix Update Pack, which you can get here: http://update7.simplix.info/

Easy-peasy and Windows 7 is still the best version of Windows ever released. You guys should take time to learn to do this. Brother @Phoenix is amazing, but being self-sufficient is even better. It's not difficult to do this stuff, especially with a guide.

Here is this from my YouTube channel. Modding W7 is the same as modding W10, just less work because it requires little or not modding, just adding drivers and that's all it needs to be awesome. Just remember to disable Windows Updates service and turn off Automatic Updates using gpedit.msc or you'll be sorry. The Redmond Mafia will ambush you with filth. Simplix Update Pack includes only the safe updates, not the cancer crap that cripples new generation CPUs and tells you lies about being incompatible, or tricks you into upgrading to W10 by mistake (or behind your back).

 

The only thing I didn't like on W8.1 was MSI Installer service would corrupt itself randomly after installation of few apps. So, that is why I moved to W10. Yeah W7 was a beast even on HDD or a VM. I used scarface's tweaked W7 with no crapware. @Mr. Fox I recommend you give it a try. And the best one I ever used. http://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=3350.msg28296#msg28296

 

@Phoenix

Snooping through Autoruns and found theses entries:


Looking specifically at the first couple, isn't your edition supposed to do anyway with "compatibility" and "feedback" crap, or did I just miss something post install. BTW, I'm stuck with the Home edition

 

Why don't you spend about $35 USD and get W10 Pro from Kinguin.net web store. I have purchased about 8 or 10 copies of W7, W8 and W10 there over the past few years, in addition to many games. All are dirt cheap. The keys activate every time. This is what I have been using on my systems for several years now. You can bring your own ISO. No hacking or KMS nonsense, just legit genuine OEM/system builder keys dirt cheap. I have frequently purchased games there for 50 to 75% less than Steam prices, even during a Steam sale.

 

I'd be a little gun shy about getting ripped off using these types of sellers

Besides, MS already scammed me out of money by including this on the laptop when I bought it. I'm pretty loathe to have to spend even more money on top of it just to get something that sucks less. TBH, if I was willing to spend the cash, I'd go all out and get a LTSB build and do away with this BS altogether

 

Well, you should be gun shy about unfamiliar places. Scams are everywhere we turn. That's why recommendations from others with a good reputation and positive long-term experience are a good thing. You're welcome.

2016 LTSB is pretty solid. Still a compromised W10 piece of crap, but much better than the consumer filth. I am thinking about going back to it on all three of my systems. Actually, I am really tempted to just wipe the W10 SSDs out, keep the Windows 7 intact and add the vacated W10 space in a RAID0 membership.

Here is a snippet from one of my Kinguin.net accounts. I like the idea of setting up an account for each computer. Not a single scam or bad key. I've purchased numerous software titles for myself, and as gifts for others.

 

You are better off pirating (no I am not condoning illegal activity, please read the argument from this game company on why G2A and Kinguin hurt them more than pirates do).

http://www.pcgamer.com/darkwood-cre...me-to-the-pirate-bay-so-everyone-can-play-it/

"Please, please, don't buy it through a key reselling site. By doing that, you're just feeding the cancer that is leeching off this industry." -Darkwood creators

stolen credit cards - keys are real sure, but the game dev never sees a penny of it, because while refunds are given to stolen people its too much hassle to track down the keys. (this is my understanding of it anyway and why Darkwood made such a comment)

 

Just bought a Windows 7 Pro key from Kinguin. Gonna try installing Windows 7 on my laptop

Using my old trusty guide to integrate the USB 3.0 Drivers, much simpler than the one you posted: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/how-to-install-windows-7-on-samsung-950-pro.785498/

 

@Mr. Fox

Installing now but I couldn't get the IRST driver to load my RAID array so I am installing it in AHCI mode after I loaded the Samsung NVMe driver then the drives showed but the IRST driver showed nothing I guess because you cannot load both the NVMe driver AND the IRST driver so

 

Hmm, really, even using F6 drivers? What about setting it to RAID0 without the drives in a RAID0 membership? If that works you can install the OS to just one NVMe, then use RST in Windows to create the drive membership. I was able to do it before on the Sky X9 developer unit. It was a huge pain in the butt, though because the old SM851 NVMe drives were kind of crappy and did not play very nice with W7. 960 Pro works perfect with it.

Since we are talking about Windows 7 and NVMe, nobody should buy a BPX NVMe SSD if they are going to run Windows 7. There are no drivers at all that support it and Windows 7 Setup cannot find it. If you clone or restore from an image to BPX it is not bootable. Works perfect with W10, but it is totally incompatible with W7 even after applying the NVMe Hotfix patch.

 

I get an error when trying to install the hotfix:

An error occurred trying to open - C:\update\update.cab Error: 0x80070003

 

Right click on that file then go to properties then make sure it is not locked. If it was you will see an unblock button

 

I ticked 'Unlock', the option disappeared but still the same error message.

 

If you are talking about the W7 NVMe hotfix, there are a few pre-requisites for it. I think Kernel Mode Driver Framework is one, but I don't remember the others. If you have installed the Simplix Update Pack the NVMe hotfix should install OK.

 

Well, we're both in Windows 10 - Bloatware Free edition topic so I thought we were talking about it.

 

Post a screenshot of tour DOS window when the error appears

 

Here you go.

 

@Mr. Fox

Installed Windows 7 Pro and activated via the key from Kinguin just fine. Got all the drivers sorted as well then used the Simplix Pack to update Windows.

There was one unknown device in device manager that I couldn't figure out what it was to install a driver for it, after Googling the hardware ID, it turned out to be the TPM device, not needed for Windows 7 only for windows 8 or 10 so I disabled it from the BIOS and no more unknown devices in the device manager.

I also had trouble installing the Intel HD Graphics Drivers, kept getting a message that I am installing it on an unsupported system. I tried many drivers to no avail. Finally, DriversCloud solved it by downloading the corrected driver.