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    Windows 10 - Bloatware Free Edition

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Apr 30, 2017.

  1. Toastedsnow

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    So just to make sure, I can use this on any system, right? And all I have to do is download, wipe my drives, and clean install? And whenever I update, I check to make sure it's actually a security or stability update and not other junk?

    Sorry if I come across as a complete novice, because, well, I am. I studied pathology dammit, not IT! :rolleyes:
     
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    Welp, just installed the Pro version, it got activated right away due to digital license AND then changed my product key with the Education Edition one I have. It activated the OS flawlessly, so you can basically type in any license key
     
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    Hi Phoenix,
    Many thanks for the bloat free .iso files. I was able to fully integrate the latest RAID drivers into the boot, installation and recovery images,...without having to use a RAID folder by using the integrate function in MSMG Toolkit. It detected my RAID0 m.2 drives and installed without issue.

    Thanks again.
     
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    :eek:
     
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    Oh really? that's awesome man, can you teach me how to do it and at what point is it best to integrate those drivers?
     
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    clubfoot Newbie

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    I downloaded the iso file from the link in your video and copied it to the ISO folder in the Tools. Selected source and chose "Extract Source from DVD ISO Image", once completed I chose source DVD image and typed in the name: Win10_1703_English_x64 and answered Y to both. I copied the contents (not the folder) of the latest Intel IRST floppy to the drivers folder: C:\ToolKit-v7.2\Drivers\Install\w10\x64 and also to: C:\ToolKit-v7.2\Drivers\WinPE\w10\x64. (not sure if this is necessary here but I was determined for it to work). I then removed all the store apps and components I didn't want or needed, then integrated the drivers in all three windows images: boot, installation and recovery. Then apply and save changes to source images.

    You can burn the iso you created or I used NLite to remove the Home edition (did not remove WinPE) and then used Rufus. "Set GTP partition scheme to UEFI" in Rufus.

    It detected the RAID immediately and in four mouse clicks it was installing :)

    I didn't integrate directx 9 or Net framework because I use Steam and the games and utilities I install have them already.
     
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    MSMG Toolkit v7.3 Usage Guide:



    Steps:

    1) Load the source then enter * instead of typing 1 or 2 to select Home or Pro. By entering *, this will load both editions so you can do the removal/integration on both editions at the same time. Then answer YES twice for the questions asked.
    2) Integrate all the features you want to add except for DirectX 9.0c and .NET Framework 3.5 using the Integrate Feature Menu.
    3) Integrate the Language pack you want if required [Optional]
    4) Remove the Apps you don't want
    5) Remove the Components you don't want
    6) Apply Changes, this will perform the Cleanup
    7) Re-Mount the Source
    8) Add the .NET Framework 3.5 using the Integrate Feature Menu.
    9) Add the DirectX 9.0c using the Integrate Feature Menu.
    10) Apply Changes
    11) Re-Mount the Source
    12) Integrate the Windows updates [optional]
    13) Apply Changes
    14) Create the ISO
     
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    Question - Since I get DirectX and .NET from Steam anyway, my step list using this tool would simply be 1. Load Source, 2. Remove whatever I don't want 3. Apply Changes and 4. Create .iso. Is that correct or am I missing a step?
    This is assuming that I won't integrate updates either (would prefer to keep my first attempt as simple as possible).
     
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    Yes sir
     
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    @Toastedsnow

    MSMG Just sent me new instructions:

     
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    Doesn't seem to change anything in my case though...since I'm downloading the Redstone2 version anyway, I won't be integrating any updates, nor do I see myself adding anything - mostly just interested in removing some of the ancillary apps. So my process would still be download .iso -> remove apps -> apply -> create .iso

    That said, I am curious, since you appear to have uploaded a "bloatware-free" file of Redstone2 anyway, isn't what I'm creating more or less the same thing, barring the inclusion of DirectX and .NET? If that's the case, I should probably just save myself the worry and just use your file.
    Oh, as an afterthought, I have an OEM key. Does that make a difference in the case of your file? Or do I need to download the "COEM" version that the HeiDoc tool presents?
     
  12. Token CDN

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    Hey @Phoenix guy…

    Did you tweak anything dealing with icon cache? When I first turn on my laptop it takes forever to load icons (sure that a gross exaggeration, but when I open "This PC" it takes a few seconds for the icons to load - odd for a SSD)
     
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    About the licensing thing, I wouldn't be so worried. I was able to activate a copy of this OS with a Student Edition key, not even a reboot was necessary - Just go to settings --> Security --> Activation --> Change product key, it should work flawlessly
     
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    nope, disable Windows Defender and watch your icons load properly
     
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    Nope. Something else must be wrong. Should load immediately with Windoze Defender. Maybe BGA ? :eek:
     
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    :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    I have a BGA taptop brah :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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    Still... Click "This PC" and the icons load after several seconds... This smells..... Nasty :rolleyes:
     
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    Defender has long been gone

    Initially I thought it might have been CCleaner, but I have all the cache options unchecked and the problem happens without running a clean. Been looking through autoruns and all the other post install stuff to see if there wasn't something I dis/enabled and can't find anything.

    So far, this has been the only issue I'm finding with your iso. Haven't had this lag any other time I've done a reinstall. The only other thing I've done different is I'm trying out Avast Free for AV duties (I've disabled everything but the file shield, so I can see it being that much of a drag)
     
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    1) Go to system properties then to appearance and performance and make sure save thumbnails cache is turned on

    2) since you installed Avast!, go to the settings, then fish around till you find something that says data sharing or whatnot and turn it off
     
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    As I said in previous post, something smells :eek:
     
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    @Papusan try loosening your foil hat, I'm starting to worry ;)

    Not sure what's the deal. Something is constantly deleting the iconcache.db file. Rebooted to safe mode to run the Avast uninstall util. Everything was nice and snappy, and the .db file was where it's supposed to be. Rebooted after running the program and the .db was gone and never comes back
     
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    I am seriously starting to consider re-installing Windows 10 from scratch haha :D
     
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    I'm late to the show, something wrong with the .iso?
     
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    no :rolleyes:
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Poking round the event viewer and found the search service was going absolutely bugf--k. Disabled the service, and I was getting an issue where the taskbar/start menu would freeze on boot. Re-enabled search service, and everything is back to normal again. Dunno what the issue was, could just be Tuesday screwing with me again
     
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    Just installed v5.1 v5.0 would not boot, maybe my fault.

    Still asks you if you want to use Cortana, I just skip maybe you have removed files.

    I installed it on my Atom mini pc, I have to manually add around 20 drivers though device manger using have disk method, This is normal and not a problem with v5.1 i just wish Win10 was smart enough to see an usb stick full of drivers and use them, instead of me having to install them one at a time. :confused:

    Works Great Thanks.

    John.
     
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    Thank you for the feedback. As I mentioned in the OP, don't worry about hearing Cortana in the beginning, that's just part of the welcome wizard, it's her ghost, she's gone forever mate.

    Check if you can update Windows just fine or not, if you can't, you may have to set the Microsoft Sign In Assistant Service to Automatic. Let me know if you can update without touching anything first.
     
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    Windows update is set to automatic and has installed a few updates, I clicked the update button and it checked and downloaded a few security updates and then said my Windows was up to date, I then did a reboot and was expecting to get the updates are installing message, but it did not, So my reboot was fast.

    Everything seems to be working fine.

    Thanks

    John.
     
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    My HDD has a clicking noise ever since I upgraded to Win 10 Creators Upddate, about every 1.5 seconds. Lot of tests show 0 bad sectors and HDD is fully healthy, and it never made this noise before Creators Update.

    Thoughts?
     
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    A clicking noise on the HDD is usually not good news.

    Do a backup if you can, it might (and you should assume it will) fail at some point.
     
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    It's not just me, its creators update, I am reading same people having the same issue. Revert back to win 8 or win 10 before creators update and clicking goes away.
     
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    That is scary... micro$haft at it again
     
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    Turn off automatic defrag in the Defragmenter:

    [​IMG]
     
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    :eek:
    Where have yooo been?:rolleyes:
     
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    Check if disk standby values are set too high.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    Phoenix can i ask where you are downloading the Windows 10 iso that you are modding as i want to do a full clean install on my main notebook, so i dont need the bloatware free version that i used on my 32GB Mini PC

    EDIT: I only need the Windows 10 Home x64 version.

    Thanks

    John
     
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    Downloading and creating the installation media:

    1- Go to the Windows 10 Download Page

    2- Download the Windows 10 Creation media tool

    3- Run the file you just downloaded by right clicking on it and choosing "Run as Administrator"

    4- Choose create installation media for another PC then the language of the ISO you want (ie. English-US)



    5- Choose the architecture (32-Bit or 64-Bit)

    6- Select the 2nd radio button on the next screen which says "Create installation media for another PC"

    7- Insert a USB Flash Disk, I recommend at least an 8GB Flash Disk if you want to create a USB Installation media that contains only one architecture (as in, either 32-Bit or 64-Bit) or a 16GB USB Flash Disk if you want to create a USB Installation Flash disk that contains both 32-Bit and 64-Bit.

    8- On the next screen, "Choose which media to use" , select the first radio button which says "USB Flash Drive"

    9- Hit next and wait for the download / creation of the USB Flash Disk to be completed.


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    How to select Windows Home or Pro when installing Windows 10

    10- Once the USB Flash Disk has been created, keep it plugged in to your PC then reboot and go into your BIOS screen by pressing the F2 or DEL or ESC key depending on which computer you have.


    11- Ensure that "Enable CSM" under the boot menu is DISABLED to ensure we are installing Windows 10 in full UEFI mode.

    12- Also ensure that "Fast Boot" is enabled in the boot menu options

    13- Restart your PC and press they key which is supposed to pull up the boot menu options. As an example, for Alienware computers that would be the F12 key,on ASUS laptops that would be the ESC key. On my ORIGIN PC Millennium desktop it is the F8 key; so this depends on your computer really. For more info, refer to your motherboard guide.

    14- Once you have the boot menu infront of you which you would've gotten by restarting your computer and continuously bashing that respective key, you will get 2 options that pertain to the Flash Disk drive, once that has a preceeding UEFI: and one without.

    Select the one which has UEFI: followed by your flash drive name.

    In my case, this was UEFI: SanDisk_Ultra

    This way, we are booting into the Windows 10 installation environment in UEFI mode.

    15- Once you get the initial License Agreement, then enter your Windows 10 product key when prompted although you can click on the SKIP entering key to proceed without entering a key for now and you still can add your product key once you are in Windows

    If your product Key is embedded in the BIOS and you don't know it, you can find it by using RWEverything:

    Use RWEverything to find the key in the BIOS:

    Download RWEverything and launch it a admin


    Click on ACCESS > ACPI Tables

    Then go to the MSDM Tab:
    [​IMG]

    Note: If you don't want to use a USB Flash Disk, you can select the ISO download method.
     
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    Can also use Windows and Office ISO Download Tool
     
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    Is this what you mean? I just set it to 0, but I am not sure if you mean something different than standby?

    [​IMG]
     
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    yes 0, and set defragmentation scheduling off as I showed you before
     
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    Defrag is still off, I just double checked.

    Cheers again. Does this bloatware free edition have windows defender removed? I hate windows defender, esepcially since creators update never really gets rid of it even if you disable it. lol
     
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    when I removed it, many users complained, so I kept it now, but here's how to completely disable it from its roots. do every step bro:

    How to properly install an Antivirus / Security Suite in Windows 10
     
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    Is it just me or does everything, every program, text in Firefox/Chrome, taskbar icons, literally everything seem a little clearer and sharper in Creators Update? Or is it Placebo? I am losing my mind maybe, but I swear everything just looks nicer in CreatorsUpdate, even though I hate this update breaking so much.
     
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    "Ahhh, the Windows 10 "mind-wipe" / "reality-warp" upgrade package in the Creators Update is working" - Microsoft, probably. :vbthumbsup:
     
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    If you had any DPI Scaling on, then Windows Creamor's update improves scaling which is why you are feeling it looks sharper.
     
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    I don't believe I had any DPI scaling. I always just left it at default. Nice to know its just placebo though. That is what I had it at before and after creators update if that is what you mean by scaling.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Maybe it's the Psychology of Casinos? Using Colors and Environment to manipulate us and lull us into liking (or getting our brains to release pleasureful chemicals) the new O/S? I wouldn't put it past MSFT. After all, with all the new telemetry and personal information MSFT is gathering now, they are taking a page from AMZN, GOOG, and FB, with the latter two being two of the world's largest advertising companies. And everyone knows how much advertising is just subtle brainwashing.

    </tinfoil hat>
    /s
     
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    @Lynx2017: I have set disk standby to 10 mins on battery and 20 mins AC respectively. Check IRST control panel and disable SATA power link management to off and see if this helps.
     
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