Windows 10 - Bloatware Free Edition

Brah, Maybe yoo have missed this one? Same also if you put the timer to 0. Who needs power savings? Have never used it on any of my hardware.

 

I prefer power savings when I use SSD. I'm on the move most of the time, so every power savings option counts.

 

@Phoenix does the removal of all apps include not being able to download the games I purchased via the windows app store? Just curious. I am getting ready to start this fresh install of Win.
If anyone has done this please chime in

 

The store app is there so feel free to download what j00 n33d

 

gonna do a fresh install this week to provide my new 7700k with sufficient space to stretch its legs properly, so this will come in pretty handy thx for sharing buddy @Phoenix

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Sure man, I advice you to wait for the next version which will be probably released in the next 72 hours

 

New version you say… what's different?

 

good thing i wanna finish up my ram tweaking first, followed up by updating drivers and apps and backing up the whole shebang, gonna take me a while. until then that new version should be here

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Just clean installed. Thanks for this!
However, how can I restore the quick search from the start menu?

 

Quote "I advice you to wait for the next version which will be probably released in the next 72 hours" Time's Up!
Do you think this would be better for a gaming computer than Win7-64? Microsoft AntiVirus ok? This with ClassicShell will be my next install. Thanks

 

If you have Win 7-64 working, and your games are working, then stick with that. A bird in the hand, and all that common sense stuff

There is nothing but pain in Windows 10 trying to keep up with OS, driver, app updates to fix problems introduced by MS "fixes" / "changes" coming out on a regular basis - forced updates.

 

actually went ahead and installed "windows 10 extreme lite" (google is your friend), install went fine and insanely quick, now lets see how this super slim os behaves...

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KB4020102 Released, updates the Windows 10 build to 15063.332

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KB4020102 Full Changelog

• Addressed issue where NTLM fails to generate a challenge response when CredGuard is enabled, NTLMv2 is used, and no target information is provided by the server.
• Addressed issue where Internet Explorer does not respect the “Send all sites not included in the Enterprise Mode Site List to Microsoft Edge” policy when opening favorites.
  Addressed issue in Internet Explorer 11 where a non-administrator user is not able to install an ActiveX control.
• Addressed issue where, after starting Split View, some apps (Microsoft Edge, Hub, Cortana, etc.) no longer receive input when multiple displays are in use.
• Addressed issue with an unnecessary scrollbar in the logon credential provider dialog, which may block use of other fields when the dialog has multiple fields.
• Addressed issue where, during a VM reset, the VM goes into Second Level Paging (SLP) even if there is enough balancer available memory on the host.
• Addressed issue where some non-Unicode fonts (Courier, MS Sans Serif, etc.) do not render characters correctly on non-Latin, single-byte system locales (Greek, Hebrew, Arabic, etc.). Black bars or other artifacts appear instead.
• Addressed issue with an SMS/messaging app that stops working when attempting to delete messages.
• Addressed issue where, after installing the Creators Update, audio output through external decoders no longer works.
• Addressed issue where the IoT shell fails to keep monitored background applications running.
• Addressed issue with high latency when using the Universal Windows Platform (UWP) MIDI API.
• Addressed issue where network printers may fail to install when using the printer vendor’s setup software on machines with less than 4GB of RAM. These printers will install if you install from the Settings app or from Devices and Printer in Control Panel.
• Addressed issue where PrintBRM fails to restore the Print Queue Configurations when printer names are identical and a port is set to FILE:.
• Addressed issue with per user proxy settings not migrating to machine proxy settings.

 

The MSU's are up: Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 (KB4020102)(15063.332)

This below say it all!!

 

just in case anyone is interested: the extreme lite version by bobpony is very performant indeed, but its only for basic tasks. lots of issues installing programs and using built in functions. so instead, i did another fresh install, this time using the windows 10 lite batch files during installation found here:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/windows-10-lite/

with these, win10 install was just around 7-8GB, ram usage below 2GB and cpu usage stable at 0% still, everything works as it should! so comes highly recommended

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I wouldn't come near anything from Source Forge with a 10 foot pole.

 

your loss

 

your machine..... do what j00 please to it, installing an OS from a site that's well known to bundle PUPs/Viruses in legit/open source software



Warning: Don’t Download Software From SourceForge If You Can Help It

Trojan Found in FileZilla downloaded from Sourceforge

 

That's good advice to always be careful with downloads, even from sites you expect to be solid and malware free - but in this case that's old news about Sourceforge, and it's been 2 years since anything has been posted about problems with the site and malware / downloaders - those articles you referenced are 2 years old - 2015.

REFORGED — Under new management, SourceForge moves to put badness in past
Adware installers and malvertising banished, the company looks to build user trust.
SEAN GALLAGHER - 6/17/ 2016, 3:45 AM
https://arstechnica.com/information...ent-sourceforge-moves-to-put-badness-in-past/

"It has been six months since the company formerly known as Dice (DHI Group) sold off Slashdot Media—the business unit that runs Slashdot and SourceForge—to BIZX, LLC, a San Diego-based digital media company.

Since then, the new management has been moving to erase some of the mistakes made under the previous regime—mistakes that led to the site becoming a bit of a pariah among open source and free software developers.

Spoiler: more...

In an e-mail to Ars, Logan Abbott—the new president of Slashdot and SourceForge—said, "SourceForge was in the media a lot last year due to several transgressions, which we have addressed since the acquisition. Unfortunately, the media has thus far elected not to cover the improvements (probably because bad press is more popular)." In the conversation that followed, Abbott emphasized the transformation underway at SourceForge.

Abbott has an uphill climb, to be sure. The shifting nature of the software development world has made repositories such as GitHub a go-to for open source projects of all sorts, while the focus on application downloads has shifted heavily toward the mobile world. But Abbott said he believes SourceForge is still "a great distribution channel," and that developers will come back to host with the repository "when end users see us as a trusted destination once again."

Abbott attempted to start the process of getting people to trust SourceForge again last week with a sort-of Ask Me Anything session on Reddit's Sysadmin subreddit. His openness was well-received. But he and Slashdot Media may have a bit more work to do before they can shake off the damage done during DHI's tenure."...much more in the article...

The State of SourceForge Since Its Acquisition in January ( self.sysadmin)
submitted 11 months ago * by loganabbott
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/4n3e1s/the_state_of_sourceforge_since_its_acquisition_in/

"Hi all,

My name is Logan Abbott and I am the President of SourceForge. My company acquired SourceForge in January of this year. Someone posted a link to our newly launched speed test today, and in the comments people were not aware that SourceForge was acquired, nor were they aware of our recent improvements and developments:
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/4n2x3e/the_new_sourceforge_internet_speed_test_includes/
...
We acquired SourceForge and Slashdot in January from DHI Group (also known as DICE). The first thing we did after we took over was remove bundled adware from projects:
https://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-acquisition-and-future-plans/ and
https://arstechnica.com/information...ent-sourceforge-moves-to-put-badness-in-past/

As of a few weeks ago, we also now scan for malware in case third party developers are adding their own adware:
https://sourceforge.net/blog/source...r-malware-and-displays-warnings-on-downloads/
...
In the past, SourceForge has also taken heat for deceptive ads that may look like download buttons. To this end we have a full time team member that polices the site and blacklists deceptive ads that sneak in via programmatic ad exchanges.

And we have not announced it yet, but in the next couple of weeks we will be releasing a self-serve tool where users can report those misleading or deceptive ads that sneak in via programmatic ad exchanges so that we can blacklist them right away.

We're committed to restoring trust in SourceForge and building out some cool new features."...more from him in that thread + comments

It's been a long time since anyone has reported problems with SourceForge, and so maybe it's time to give them (the new them) another chance

From 3 days ago:
loganabbott 7 points 3 days ago

"Hi, president of SourceForge here. My company acquired SourceForge in 2016 and have been improving significantly. No more bundled adware, all projects are scanned for malware, https downloads and project web hosting, & more. Big redesign coming soon too.
Ars Technica
Did an AMA here.
Thanks, Logan Abbott"
https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/6ctfrs/are_cnet_and_sourceforge_safe_anymore_to_download/

 

didn't bother reading after your first line......

Once a thief, always a thief, I'll never trust them or come near anything from their site. In fact, their site is in my hosts block list as part of malicious sites blockage so that I don't accidentally download something that is linked to their site. Feel free to use whatever makes you happy. and if someone is willing to risk not an app from them, but an entire OS........ then may the lord be with them.

 

And here we all are using Windows 10 literally taking keylogging information second for second.

Lol.

 

not in this edition we aren't

 

I outplayed myself haha.

I am however going to test this version on my M1530 and monitor the network closely to further help you if anything can be improved.

 

What are you talking about, we can't trust Windows 10 from the SOURCE - Microsoft!!

"Windows 10's Privacy related settings are just a ruse to throw unsuspecting users offguard so they think their privacy is being maintained.

Repeatedly, it has been demonstrated by various researchers that they are meaningless and do not fully prevent your PC from doing unwanted communications with numerous Microsoft and third party computers."

Source: Mark Burnett

Regardless of your privacy settings, Windows 10 Creators Update phones home
http://winaero.com/blog/regardless-privacy-settings-windows-10-creators-update-phones-home/

"Another research done by an independent IT security analyst shows a number of privacy issues in Windows 10. Even after you have properly configured Windows 10 Creators Update using Group Policy in the Enterprise edition, the operating system may disregard these settings and continue to utilize your bandwidth and "phone home" to send data."

Regardless of your privacy settings, Windows 10 Creators Update phones home - Winaero
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/6coif5/regardless_of_your_privacy_settings_windows_10/

ptd163 9 points 4 days ago*
"It's always been this way. Windows 10 never respected those settings. They're there just to make it seem like you're in control so you don't verify.

This is why your first choice should always be just not running Windows 10. If you absolutely have to be running Windows 10 then install a 3rd party firewall and use a deny-by-default (a.k.a. a whitelist strategy)."

You are making a big deal over avoiding a reformed company, with new owners, new management, 2 years of clean operations, yet you are pushing an OS that we all know is compromised far worse than any individual malware or adware has ever been in history.

Windows 10 is the Malware, Adware, Spyware, believing anything else and pushing forward using it thinking you can control it's phoning home is ignoring long established facts that Microsoft just keeps pushing on with getting telemetry back, continuing to make it worse and worse.

Sourceforge is a Saint next to Microsoft.

 

haha guys, its all good. i wouldnt post/recommend anything here thats malware infected the batch files let u choose to remove tons of crap stuff like universal apps, cortana, telemetry, etc. there is a similar windows 10 lite version on majorgeeks as well, version 7.1. works very similarly from what i can see

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And you have ntlite as well. That You can use on already installed Windows.

 

Man I keep forgetting that tool!

 

modify already installed windows? nice!

edit: ah, naturally only available in the licensed version still, good to know

 

Yeah, You need tools to fight against M$ Moron's evilness. Micro$haft's own fault that this is a necessity Remember, They by themselves have make it possible this software industry grow

 

I bought an NTLite License guys. Once I receive my license key, I will be making a new Bloatware Free ISO hopefully with a smaller sized ISO since NTLite has better post cleanup features to make the ISO smaller. It also knows what order should stuff be removed integrated in so it's much easier.

Stay tuned

@Mr. Fox

 

You will need to test the ISO however, NTLite sometimes breaks Windows in some odd ways, however, if done correctly it saves tons of RAM.

Man am I going to go crazy when I have summer vacation

 

I am entering testing mode now

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Removed Components
===================================
Remoting and Privacy:
Location Service
Remote Registry
Application Identity Service (Prevents Bitlocker from being enforced)
Windows Customer Improvement Program
MultiPoint Connector
Remote Assistance
Shared PC Mode
Telemetry
Wi-Fi Sense
Windows Error Reporting
Windows Insider Hub
Windows Remote Management

System:
Cache and temp files
Easy Transfer
File History
Steps Recorder


Windows Apps:
All Windows Store apps removed except Calculator, sticky notes, Xbox, and the Store app itself
Retail Demo Content
Contact Support
Environments Apps
HoloCamera
Microsoft Edge
Parental Controls
PP Projection
Smart Screen
Windows Defender
Webcam Experience
Windows Mixed Reality
Windows Reader (PDF)

Features:
Windows Media Player
Microsoft XPS Document Writer
Work Folders Client
Microsoft Accounts Disabled (Users can't add or log on with Microsoft Accounts)
Automatic installation of sponsored apps
Automatic Driver Updates
Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool
AutoPlay
=====================================================
Integrated Features:
.NET Framework v3.5
Latest Windows Update KB4020102

 

ISO Created, size is down from 5.5GB which was made by MSMG Toolkit down to 3.85GB!

Gonna install it now for testing

 

interested to see your comparison between ntlite and msmg versions

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NTLite version is a lot slimmer and snappier than MSMG version. @Phoenix have you tried ESD conversion, that will reduce the size by 40%. Use Enhanced Windows Update cleanup and tick re-use device drivers option in NTLite.

 

40% smaller image or installation?

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ISO is smaller.

So far everything seems cleaner as the NTLite tool performs proper post cleanup of the removed crap so you don't get error messages about file associations upon the first boot up

I have to redo it though, I stupidly removed the sharing wizard thinking that's something to do with HomeGroup and now sharing folders/files is a pain in the butt.

Please standby

 

Being able to completely turn off network sharing, permanently, would be a good thing. Windows keeps re-enabling it at odd times - I have to keep checking. Eliminating the network sharing ability completely would be optimal.

 

no can do, some people need it. I want to make a lean and clean ISO but not remove OS core features that people may need

 

after formatting 5 times, I finally got it done with testing. I kept getting errors here and there due to removal of a lot of stuff like Biometrical features or BitLocker so I had to start over again.

It's working 100% fine now and a lot of the user privacy settings in PC Settings will be disabled by default. I've also enabled the ThisPC Icon to show by default and removed the initial Cortana welcome screen although Cortana itself is not removed due to compatibility issues so feel free to disable here using O&O Shutup10

uploading to MajorGeeks as we speak

 

I'm very much looking forward to this image!

I tried your previous release last night, but unfortunately I encountered the start menu search issue right from the start. There appears to be 2 issues going around related to this matter: the one is where users don't get any search results back when typing something in the start menu, but the search bar at the bottom still displays with the text you are searching for, and then there is similar issue but this one is slightly different because when you start typing something, it doesn't even show the search box at the bottom or begin filtering the start menu, it simply does nothing!

I've seen this issue on my previous windows 10 installations and I think it either happened because I was trying to remove or disable Cortana, or it was perfect some sort of malware causing this issue. To fix it, it requires DISM and extensive other repair tools which isn't worth it!

So I'm very keen to see if this image works

One question: The video you posted in port (#1) on this thread, the one that goes for over 1 hour where you make several performance tweaks to windows, are those tweaks already applied to these builds, or was the video just a tutorial for those who wish to tweak windows after installing your image?

Cheers bro!

 

Installation time will be extended by 5-10 mins depending on the level of compression, USB drive, CPU, SSD/HDD.

 

The start menu search will never work in this build due to the telemetry and other stuff being disabled. But feel free to try as in this build Cortana is not removed. I never use the start menu search you mention since I have Classic Shell and it has is own search in it.

The tweaks in the video are tweaks, not pre applied by the ISO since many of those settings are user dependant not OS dependant, meaning, they have to be applied on every newly created user account

 

v5.3 is up now

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/windows_10_bloatware_free_edition.html

Downloads: 22502 times

 

I shouldn't posted ntlite as options here. Too much work for you bruh And we will probably see more builds And next major Crippled Windoze X Alpha is soon here as well Damn it will be busy for yooo!!

 

@Phoenix.....

With all the contributions for software optimization, drivers and OS guides you contribute, you are approaching rockstar status IMHO on the boards....

In other words, thanks! All your contributions are greatly appreciated.

 

Dude, can you confirm the start menu search works before I install this?

EDIT: I just realised your replied. Noted and thank you! Will also go through your tweaking video

 

This might be a stupid question, but this this build make windows 10 run any faster? Or is the main purpose of this build for improved privacy?

 

both, actually. removing all the crap brings improved privacy but also less cpu cycles being eaten up by the OS and less ram being used

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