Windows 10 20H2

How is this version compared to 1809? I know 1903 was a big mess but have they fixed their **** for the so called "November update" ?

 

How do you think this one will be better than previous mess? It's in short exactly same version but with minor changes.

 

Nothing but problems with 1909.... So far 1809 has been very stable...

Remember guys... newer isn't always better... especially with M$. That's a double wammy.

 

A very good start with the new and shiny OS version. As expected. And nothing will change.



Windows 10 1909 KB4517245 Update Causes File Explorer Issues bleepingcomputer.com
With the release of Windows 10 1909, users have noticed a annoying bugs related to the new search experience in File Explorer that was not present in the previous version of Windows 10

 

Now you see why I switched to Mac? I am done with these jokes. Microsoft can't get the most basic things of an OS to work right like Search or Start Menu! You know, because it's rocket science!

 

No in Hell I will swap to Apple. What is a working OS worth if the hardware is crippled? And there is no need jump on new and shiny. I mean jump on Redmond Retards latest stunt.

 

Was about to ask you Spartan to why not get a LTSC when you can easily afford it and it is the best as of the moment that I know of instead of going to MAC where hardware is not the best of best.

 

Did not update to 1909 yet and haven't integrated the update to my custom ISO.

But you can use 1809 for next 5-6 yrs w/o any worries. How the MBP 16" holding up? Are thermals good or bad?

He has Workstation editions, couple of Pro's and Enterprise licenses. But he prefers a rolling release so newer Win 10 is nothing but trouble!

 

So I upgraded 1703 on my desktop BGA killer system to 1909 without incident.

But I was smart and uninstalled all Soundblaster X-fi and Realtek drivers and deleted the device driver software before upgrading, then I installed the 1903 compatible ones. No problems except the good old "Cannot connect to RPC service" bug with the RT Audio Control Panel from the MS Store. Seems like the only way to fix that is to reinstall the driver on top of itself twice. (Probably how I fixed this with the older Gigabyte release version of the drivers).

Haven't seen anything (yet) that would make me want to revert back. But I don't think my MSI BGAbook will do as good as my desktop did, so idk about that right now. Predicting some problems considering how old MSI's drivers for the GT73VR are.

 

I couldn't install 1909 on my BGA and even if I tried, it nuked my boot drive thrice on Clean install. I can do in-place upgrade but not clean install.

 

WOODY ON WINDOWS
Bugs continue to haunt Win10 version 1909
Billed as the kinder, gentler update to Windows, the latest version 1909 is still plagued by persistent wake-up and botched search.

"I still won’t install 1909 on my production machines."

New is always better

 

I installed the latest 1909 on a test rig and it has been nothing but bug central.

Good job M$. Lol

 

Just glad I was introduced to LTSC. No need to worry about new bugs with each update.. and updates disabling former OS tweaks etc.

 

Just installed on AMD 7xxx series notebook and it working since I've not updated it!

 

Am I the only person without any problems with 1909 ? (besides the known search text explorer thingy which everyone knows about, though it only happened once).

 

1909 has been stable for me. The inability to load Device Manager from the menu has been present since at least 1903 - not a very big deal, since I can load it by running devmgmt.msc.
Joe

 

Are you talking about "you don't have permission to do this" error when you try to load it from the search bar?
I had that happen (even control panel wasnt opening) but it stopped after I rebooted. I think it originally happened after i restarted the explorer process.

 

No, it simply doesn't run. I click on the tab (with either mouse button) and it simply closes.

J

 

Ummm... oh, heck no. You're not going to "try" anything on my PC, Micro$haft. Maybe after hell freezes over. I just got rid of their DCH cancer audio drivers and chintzy UWP control panel feces on purpose, and now they're trying to "help me" put that broken crap back... even though I didn't ask for "help" with that? They can kiss my bobo.

Edit: And, this nonsense is with Enterprise 1909 installed on the TongFang turdbook. Windows Update driver installation is disabled. Or, so I thought.

 

You'd think LTSC would be safe, and even safer with O&O10Shutup. But it still manages to download drivers, even if you manually turned that off. Found out that you need to pair it up with WUP to disable all of the update services for the nonsense to finally stop.

 

Crazy, isn't it? Probably some kind of weird glitch, which Windows 10 is famous for.

I am dealing with some Windows weirdness on the Tongfang turdbook that I have yet to figure out. The system tray power icon keeps disappearing and the common fixes for it don't fix it. Restarting explorer brings it back, but is it gone again after a reboot. Tried all of the registry tweaks on the web... nada.

And, yesterday about a half dozen desktop shortcuts to programs I use every day suddenly were broken on my desktop PC. The programs were fine and I made new shortcuts. But, makes no sense that they were messed up. Don't know how/why.

 

Logging into Windows with the built-in Administrator account the problem is not present, my profile for work it is not present and a new user it is not prsent. So, I am going to restore my Macrium Reflect image from 12 days ago and be done with it. I'll have to double-check that everything is locked down so no digital cancer can interfere a second time.

I am so glad that I made a new image after converting my drives back to MBR from GPT. Otherwise, I'd be having to redo that crap. My older images are all UEFI/GPT and it would suck having to go back to that garbage.

 

Ever since this Windows 10 mess came out until now all we've been dealing with is weird unsolvable problems, constant need of finding tweaks to battle Micro$h4ft, driver incompatibilities, you name it! I have given up gaming on a PC just to not touch something called Windows ever again. Heck if you're comfortable with Linux now, I wouldn't even burn any more calories on Windows

 

If Linux could do everything I want to do, I would do that in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, it cannot and it probably never will. Windows 10 is a piece of garbage and Linux is awesome. But, there's no joy in using an OS that limits what I can do so severely. It's actually not the OS, technically. But, the lack of availability of the software I want to run... 80% or more only runs on Windows. Therein lies the problem. And, if I can't do what I want to do, there is really no point in even owning a computer.

If I wanted someone else to control everything I do, I'd just use a cheap tablet, Chromebook or smartphone for internet and email and totally forget about everything else.

 

While we wait on Spring 2020 update...

Windows 10 V1909: More issues and Explorer Bugs
Posted on 2020-01-07 by guenni

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It looks like the Explorer in the Windows 10 November 2019 Update (Version 1909) is becoming a ‘problem child’ due to bugs. There are also more bugs and annoyances in Windows 10 version 1909. Here is a short summary of what I just noticed.

 

MS should scrap the whole Windows 10 project, and start from scratch. To take something great (7) and transform it into such a pile of steaming crap, shows what a complete waste they have become.

 

So, patch Tuesday is here.
Did they fix anything yet? Like the Explorer search?
Or do people have to use this?

https://www.voidtools.com/en-au/

Installing the "Update" won't cost you scores and frames will it?
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4528760/windows-10-update-kb4528760

What is this...."improves security when a keyboard and mouse are used"?

WHAT.

@Papusan @Mr. Fox @jc_denton @Prema

 

I don’t see any acknowledgment of — much less a solution to — the longstanding File Explorer search bug in Win10 1909.
January 2020 Patch Tuesday running commentary, from the skeptic’s corner Askwoody.com| Today

Be sure you can rollback or wait for the guinea pig.

Windows 10 is 'better than ever' says Microsoft, as it issues a patch to fix a major vulnerability betanews.com Jan 14, 2019


Today, as you’ll know, marks the end of support for Windows 7, and Microsoft is -- predictably -- keen to get as many people as possible to switch to its new operating system.

However, on a day when the software giant has had to issue a fix for a flaw in Windows 10 that the NSA says threatens the foundations on which the Internet operates, there’s something more than a little embarrassing about Microsoft boasting how its new OS "makes you and your organization more productive and secure than ever".

But today’s events have somewhat undermined Microsoft’s boast about the security and safety of Windows 10 given that the flaw identified by the NSA -- which it describes as posing "a significant risk for enterprises and systems" -- doesn’t actually affect Windows 7.


NSA: Windows 10 flaw threatens the foundations on which the Internet operates beatanews.com Jan 14, 2019

Earlier today we wrote about a major vulnerability affecting Windows 10 and Server 2016 which was uncovered by the NSA who duly reported it to Microsoft.

At the time details on the vulnerability were scarce, but now that Microsoft has issued a fix for it as part of its Patch Tuesday updates, the NSA has revealed its worrying findings.


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For manual install.

KB4528760 (manual download) Windows 10 1909 18363.592 / 1903 18362.592
The first patchday in 2020. Microsoft has made the security-related and cumulative update KB 4528760 and KB4528759 available for download as an SSU. This increases the version number of Windows 10 1909 to 18363.592

Known issues with KB4528760

• None currently known

Fixed issues with KB4528760

• Updates to improve security when saving and managing files.
• Updates to improve security when using input devices such as a mouse, keyboard or pen

Manual download of the KB4528759 as SSU
Important: Anyone who installs manually must install the SSU first.
windows10.0-kb4528759-x64.msu

Manual download of the KB4528760
windows10.0-kb4528760-x64.msu

DotnetFx35-48 CU ( http://support.microsoft.com/kb/4532938 ):
Version: 10.0.1.3105
http://download.windowsupdate.com/d..._f9df8e5b730d331c202dd4b96776208075446891.msu

 

They don't give a rat's butt about anything other than getting Windows 7 hold-outs to drink the wee-wee tainted Windoze OS X Kool-Aid. Security, my hind leg. I might have been born at night, but it wasn't last night. As long as their goal is to provide Windows as a Service it will never be secure. It will continue to be a constantly evolving and insecure bug magnet.

The only meaningful thing I can say in response to this fabrication is, "Liar, liar, pants on fire."

 

Suck on this bro Fox. From link above... "But today’s events have somewhat undermined Microsoft’s boast about the security and safety of Windows 10 given that the flaw identified by the NSA -- which it describes as posing "a significant risk for enterprises and systems" -- doesn’t actually affect Windows 7."

 

Just lovely

Windows 10 V1909: Update KB4528760 drops error 0x800F081F Borncity.com Posted on 2020-01-20

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[ German]It seems that the cumulative update KB4528760 installation problems are caused by the cumulative update KB4528760 released on January 2020 patchday for Windows 10 version 1909. Some users may notice a termination of the installation, reporting the error 0x800F081F.

 

Are they actually trying? Or they gave up already?

 

Trying on the part of the end user is not required. Windows 10, like its maker, will continue to try and fail, repeatedly, and without any user action or intervention. Their persistence and perseverance in the pursuit of rubbish is admirable. Just think how nice it would be if they knew what they were doing and had high standards.

 

Windows 10 is such a joke. I've had it for over a year, stable, no crap running around (had to disable most bloatware as usual) but 2 or 3 days ago I've had some crashes on drivers (which never happened for 8 months). Wish they would actually test stuff out before releasing to general public but I guess that's me dreaming.. You don't have to be touching the computer for it to crash or do something you didn't intend to..
I feel ya brothers @Mr Fox and @Papusan. I will have to change to LTSC this upcoming weekend. Got tired of all the ******** going on, on background with the bloatware.

And today I turned my machine to learn that I have candy crush installed by default (never noticed it). Wtf.

 

Like this...

 

What you show in the nice picture... System adms that now has to handle Win 10 after the migration from Win 7

 

Is there even a point in updating to v1909? If they're going to keep breaking things with every update then I rather stay with v1703 unless there is a more stable one.

 

I'm on 1909 and no issues. Only loads of bloatware lol

 

Since you do not need RTX GPU support there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to move from 1703 up to anything after 1703. Doing so it totally pointless. Just stay parked there and enjoy having a system that isn't screwed up.

 

On 1909 as well in my GS75. Removed as much bloat as I could.

Had to roll back to 1903 on my father's zephyrus G though as 1909 just completely broke nvidia optimus.

 

Blocked it since ages. Still on 1809 until EOL. I see no point in upgrading.

 

Intel Microcode Updates Windows 10 1909, 1903, 1809 and below (01/30/2020)
good Morning January 31, 2020 6:57

There are new Intel microcode updates for all Windows versions. It is the KB4497165 (Windows 10 1909/1903), KB4494174 (Windows 10 1809), KB4494451 (Windows 10 1803), KB4494452 (1709), KB4494453 (1703), KB4494175 (1607), KB4494454 (1507.
The revised versions concern the CPUs: Denverton, Sandy Bridge, Sandy Bridge E, EP, Valley View, Whiskey Lake U. You can read the individual descriptions here. And if your CPU is in the list, install the update:

 

More mess from Redmond HQ. Want the last Microcode without this coming stinking Voltage cap Mess but with fixes for all the other Intel flaws, then download the last patch and save it. You can install it as standalone with the doors closed.


Intel Microcode Updates Windows 10 1909, 1903, 1809 and below (02/25/2020)
good Morning February 26, 2020 8:37 am 22 comments
[Update 02/26/2020]: Microsoft has updated all Intel microcode updates again. [2.Update]: But it looks like Microsoft has only changed the date in the catalog and in the descriptions. The links remain the same...

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February 27, 2020—KB4535996 (OS Builds 18362.693 and 18363.693)

Download link KB4535996

Highlights

• Updates an issue that prevents the speech platform application from opening for several minutes in a high noise environment.
• Updates an issue that reduces the image quality in the Windows Mixed Reality (WMR) home environment.
• Updates an issue that might prevent ActiveX content from loading.
• Improves the battery performance during Modern Standby mode.
• Updates an issue that causes Microsoft Narrator to stop working when a user session is longer than 30 minutes.
• Addresses an issue that adds an unwanted keyboard layout as the default after an upgrade even if you have already removed it.
• Updates an issue that prevents the Windows Search box from rendering properly.
• Updates an issue that prevents the printer settings user interface from displaying properly.
• Updates an issue that prevents some applications from printing to network printers.

February 27, 2020-KB4537572 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10 Version 1903 and Windows 10 version 1909

Download link KB4537572

 

The Microcode doesn't say anything about Coffee Lake so I guess I don't need to install it right?

 

1) SSU (Servicing Stack Update) KB4538674 = http://download.windowsupdate.com/d..._d181b6a4a516b43bc58cbc15347b83219dccee86.msu

2) CU (Cumulative Update) KB4535996 = http://download.windowsupdate.com/d..._a5002e11e12c8df21f73f6ff424bc0caedabd391.msu

3) .NET Framework KB4537572 = http://download.windowsupdate.com/d..._3a5beca9ff3bd1e1c72b7afa13beed94d6974ee9.msu

4) Intel Microcode Update KB4497165 = http://download.windowsupdate.com/c..._56bf6498dd6757ab61790f40b464c1349c195c11.msu

 

I mean this is the latest official from Intel. But why the need for latest and greatest?

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/w...cuments/sa00329-microcode-update-guidance.pdf

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/w...ents/ipu-2019-2-microcode-update-guidance.pdf

 

KB4540673 (manual download) + KB4541338 as SSU Windows 10 1909 18363.719

The Patchday March 2020 is coming. Microsoft has made KB 4540673 available for download as a security-related and cumulative update for Windows 10 1909 and Windows 10 1903. This increases the version number to 18363.719 and 18362.719

Known issues with KB4540673

• Problems with 32-bit applications and processes may occur when using Windows Server containers with the March 10, 2020 updates. For important information about upgrading Windows containers, see Windows container version compatibility .
• If other problems should arise, uninstalling the update will help temporarily .
• If you have any problems, just come to our Windows 10 forum . There we can better help you and, if necessary, evaluate the log files to localize the problem.

Fixed issues with KB4540673

• Updates to improve security when using Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer.
• This list is massively long this month: portal.msrc.microsoft.com/security-guidance/releasenotedetail
• Updates to check usernames and passwords.
• Addresses an issue that prevents certain users from updating the operating system due to damaged third-party assemblies.
• Updates to improve security when using external devices (such as game controllers, printers and web cameras).
• support.microsoft

Important: Whoever installs manually must install the Servicing Stack Update (SSU) first.

Manual download of the KB4541338 as SSU

Manual download of the KB4540673 as CU 18363.719

 

Just updated newer notebook which has Ryzen 3200U and so far so good.

 

Can someone please tell me again why 1909 and 2004 is in the same thread? The answer in post 3 doesn't make sense. Yeah I'm late to the party..


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_version_history

 

Does it matter? All know this thread is for 1909 (18363.xxx)