Windows 10 20H2

Thanks, bro. At this point, I think I may just hold off and see what shakes out in time. I am not OK with AeroGlass not working. That one thing alone is reason enough for me to reject their latest abortion. I find the tacky look and feel of the UI (especially inactive window coloring) is too disgusting to put up with. However, I also had other things that were broken... Galax Xtreme Tuner and RTSS are two applications that I refuse to live without, and both of those had problems. I'd rather not deal with any nonsense.

 

Thanks Mr. Fox.
I'll give this a going over in my seemingly never-ending quest to find the least sucky version of Win 10.
Seriously, I don't think I'll ever find a version that doesn't have freeze/stutter issues on my laptop.

 

Cool. Let me know how it works out. That's the one I use for benching.

 

Sure.

Same OS and same drivers. Only difference is added patches after release.

When released.



With patches. As a reminder... This was before Intel screw up. Aka no fixes for Intel processors.


This show very well how Microsoft kill performance with utter trash coding.

 

@Papusan @Mr. Fox

What in your opinion is the worst OS that Micro$h4ft released?

From worst to best:

1) Windows 10 in all its flavors, builds, and editions
2) Windows Millenium
3) Windows 8.1
4) Windows 7
5) Windows 98 SE
6) Windows XP FTW

How Vista looked like:

 

VISTA looked sooooo good. Hell. It's way better looking than Catalina. Ha ha. And how old is VISTA?

 

Another Windows 10 update is causing serious problems, reducing performace, crashing and deleting files betanews.com | Today


If you were hoping that a spate of problematic updates for Windows 10 might have caused Microsoft to up its game and improve quality control, think again; the KB4549951 update is just the latest to cause issues for users.

And this time around, the problems are pretty serious. In addition to BSoD crashes and connectivity issues, users are also reporting that their settings are being removed and files deleted.

And this time around, the problems are pretty serious. In addition to BSoD crashes and connectivity issues, users are also reporting that their settings are being removed and files deleted.

Yeah, Just lovely.

 

I dunno Mr. F, I think my laptop is allergic to these 19xx builds.

Your build looks great and all, but for some reason I'm getting semi random 1sec freezes - even my mouse won't move. I seem to be getting a big CPU spike when it happens. At least I'm assuming that because my fan cranks up when it freezes and goes back down when the PC starts responding again. This was happening while I was clicking through the tabs on W10Privacy deciding what to enable (nothing had been enabled yet), so I'm not sure if that program is the source of the problem. IIRC however, I think this was the biggest reason I rolled back from 1903 way back when.

Also, Windows doesn't seem to want to remember the login credentials for my NAS. Any idea how to fix that

 

I'm not sure, bro. I know I am allergic to all versions of W10. The newer strains of cancer are definitely worse. LTSC is the least buggered at this point.

What system do you have it installed on? I was having freezes exactly like that with the Tongfang turdbook and it was USB polling causing it. I started using a powered hub and that problem stopped.

 

I'm using an older (592g) Acer NitroBE. Most of the drivers are newish, except for the pre-DCH Intel gfx driver. I don't usually have anything plugged into USB other than the wireless receiver for my trackball.
Today, so far, things have been running pretty well. I haven't have one of those freeze issues yet. Maybe my laptop was just cranky and needed a nap.

 

I was having that freezing pattern using an ordinary Logitech USB wireless mouse and an ordinary wired mouse. And, it only happened using the USB ports on one side. It was pretty strange. Using a powered USB hub made the problem go away. Which worked out OK since I had more USB devices than available ports. When I travel I use my wireless mouse with the USB ports on the other side and I have no issues with it.

 

I like W7 best and Vista second best.

 

Thanks for the update. The next time I have this problem, I'll try switching my USB ports - the only port I use for my wireless trackball is a single USB on the left side, I'm not even sure if it's 2.0 or 3.0 TBH.

<edit: just looked & the connector is black. must make it USB2>

 

@Papusan
Today's joke:

 

i think they mean windows will throttle cpu down to reduce fan noise.. did i get it right?

 

Of course it can help on noise. Dell often destroy fan profiles in newer bios. Better with boiling temps. Remember Apple do the same.... 100C and the fans barely kick in

Halfway

 

GPU Temp is now displayed in task manager:

 

It works very nice. I put W7 and four versions of W10 and Mini-Tool Partition Wizard ISOs on the same USB thumb drive and all boot perfectly.

 

What version do you have of that Mini Tool Partition Wizard ISO? Send it to me please.

 

@Papusan @Mr. Fox
I asked on MDL if the 20H1 build is the one that really mitigates the Spectre and Meltdown patch performance loss for Intel CPUs and here's the response I got, I don't understand this maybe you would:

Code:

cpu906EC_plat22_ver000000C6_2019-08-14_PRD_177C8996.bin
cpu906EC_plat22_ver000000CA_2019-10-03_PRD_C2FCDC8A.bin
cpu906EC_plat22_ver000000D2_2020-01-09_PRD_F7C1EE8A.bin

 

It seems like he is saying the mc patches on that list are what you should avoid if you care about performance more than security. I don't keep up with the technical information on this mitigation stuff because I don't really care about security/patches. My only concern is performance, so I generally avoid anything that diminishes performance.

 

Windows 10 20H1 RTM Download

Don't forget to unblock the file FIRST since it was downloaded from the internet, right click on it, go to properties, then hit UNBLOCK from the bottom then APPLY then OK

If you have WinRAR, you can right click on the ISO and choose extract to (with the name of the file as the folder) then simply run setup.exe to perform an upgrade!

You must re-do many tweaks after the update so I recommend doing all the reg tweaks again especially the disable driver updates, disable Microsoft Malicious Removal Tool, disable -shortcut affix, etc.

Then run the cleanup to properly remove the Windows.old if you're happy with it:

 

Here is good reason for anyone that is still using a HDD to upgrade to May 2020 Update

In May 2020 Update (version 2004), Microsoft has fine-tuned disk usage of Windows Search indexer to address high disk usage caused by the aggressive indexing process. Microsoft states that Windows Search can now better identify peak usage times and manage the indexer accordingly. It’s true, according to multiple tests we did on real hardware and virtual machines with different configurations.
The May 2020 Update is faster on HDD hardware, thanks to the reduced disk usage by Windows Search process.

https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/04/27/windows-10-is-getting-faster-in-next-feature-update/

 

@Spartan Thanks for the Windows 1020H1 ISO link, getting ready to wipe my install of Windows 10 1909, Albit first things first which is to make a bootable USB NVME install first to test it out.

So Wish me luck!

 

Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 19041.208 as new RTM
Published on May 1, 2020 by Günter Born

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[ English ] To 30/04/2020 Microsoft has the Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 19041,208 released as new RTM in the Release Preview ring. This is the 20H1 development arm that will soon be released as a Windows 10 May 2020 update (version 2004).

The guinea pig channel https://blogs.windows.com/windowsex...he-may-2020-update-ready-for-release-updated/

 

Spartan =

 

Can't see the new mess is of big interest

 

Getting the May 2020 Update Ready for Release – UPDATED April 30, 2020

 

Windows 10 version 2004 will arrive later - Windows 10 20H2 will be a minor update (Rumor) Winaero.com | May 02, 2020, 2020 -
The reason for this, according to Mary Jo, is a zero-day exploit that needs to be fixed in the new version of Windows 10 before it can be released to the public.

 

You can pry my LTSC installation out of my cold, dead hands...

Seriously the only Windows version that behaves... most of the time :/

 

Sincere apologies if this is not the right spot for this question. I'm considering upgrading to 1909 from Win10 1809. (system in sig)

@Spartan helped me tweak system after purchase from HIDevolution. Clean Win10 install. No Dragon Centre, no Cortana, no Nahimic, Win7 appearance.
Would an upgrade to 1909 override or wreck these tweaks?

A week ago, sound stopped working completely - no speakers/headphones. Tried multiple drivers including driver package from MSI for my laptop. Nothing.
Uninstalling then deleting installation files works briefly. On restart, Win installs 4/30/2019 Realtek driver (before I can do anything).
Sound works but for about a minute only (in both speaker/headphones). Then red "X" flashes on volume, and goes away. Says device is working properly but there's no sound.

I'm guessing conflict but no idea what. No recent installs. Rendered a video thru VLC but have since uninstalled VLC completely. Windows upgrade problem?

@Spartan made a Macrium image right after purchase/tweaks a year ago. Would restoring that image also restore drivers?
At my wit's end. I purchased the laptop for gaming and for work. It's useless without sound.

Again, very sorry if this is the wrong place to post this. Any/all suggestions welcome. PM if you like.
Thank you guys.

 

Please stop tagging me and multi tagging me in the same post! I don't do PMs.

1) Follow the guide here to disable Windows from updating your drivers

2) Uninstall the Realtek Audio Driver and reboot

3) Install the latest Realtek Audio Driver from MSI then reboot when prompted:

Before running or extracting any of the files you downloaded, make sure you read this: "Are you sure you want to run this file?" [Yes or No]

Realtek Audio Driver 6.0.8918.1 / Nahimic Driver v1.7.2 / Nahimic 3 App / Realtek Audio Control Panel
Install the Realtek HD Audio Driver first then reboot, then install all other drivers before connecting to the internet. Once you have connected to the internet, to ensure Nahimic works properly, update the audio components and reboot yet again before attempting to install the Nahimic App from the Windows Store:

Open Device Manager > Software Components

Then right click on each one of the following components and hit Update Driver and let Windows download the update automatically then reboot, Nahimic would work after that:

A-Volute Nh3 Audio Effects Component
Realtek Audio Effects Component
Realtek Audio Universal Service
Realtek Hardware Support Application



PS: Before upgrading to Windows 10 1909 (which is not recommended because it's an inferior build to 1809 and 20H1/20H2 are right around the corner) consider updating all your drivers from this thread:
MSI Laptops Drivers

 

Microsoft is going to release Windows 10 May 2020 Update knowing it contains a bug Betanews.com | April 05.05, 2020

In the last few days it was revealed that Microsoft has delayed the release of Windows 10 May 2020 Update until the end of May in order to fix a zero-day vulnerability. But even when this is patched, the build will not be perfect.

Microsoft is releasing Windows 10 version 2004 / Windows 10 20H1 / Windows 10 May 2020 Update knowing that it includes another bug -- one that will be fixed with a subsequent patch.

 

Didn't mean to offend. It was meant to be a shout-out/thank you, not an annoyance. I really do appreciate the help very much and will try your suggestions.

Thank you.

 

no problem man, I know you didn't meant it that way it's just that I get so many mentions daily so one is enough

Good luck, let me know how it goes.

 

Solved! (for now ) Windows was definitely updating driver without permission. Followed directions for disabling updates and running files.
Even though disconnected from internet, and uninstalled/deleted, Windows still put driver in (2019/09/04). But it worked and it's stable. I didn't tempt fate after that..
I have sound - I'm good. Thank you again for the help. I have the instructions if this gets worse or happens again.

 

Windows 10 Cumulative Update KB4556799 (Build 18363.836) May 12, 2020

CU (Cumulative Update) 18363.836 KB4556799

Known issues with KB4556799

• Nothing officially known at the moment.
• If you still have a problem with the temporary profile, you can do an in- place repair , or switch to Windows 10 2004 straight away .

Fixed issues with KB4556799

• Updates to improve security when using Internet Explorer and Microsoft Edge.
• Updates to improve security when using input devices such as a mouse, keyboard or pen.
• Updates to verify usernames and passwords.
• Updates to improve security when using Microsoft Xbox.
• Updates to improve security when Windows performs basic operations.
• Updates to save and manage files.
• Updates to improve security when using Microsoft Office products.
• Security updates for Internet Explorer, the Microsoft Scripting Engine, the Windows App Platform and Frameworks, the Microsoft graphics component, Windows input and composition, Windows Media, Windows Shell, Microsoft Xbox, Microsoft Edge, Windows basics, Windows cryptography, Windows authentication, Windows Kernel, Windows Linux, Windows Update Stack, Windows network security and containers, Windows Active Directory, Windows storage and file systems and the Microsoft JET database engine

Net framework35-48: May 12, 2020
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/4552931
Version: 10.0.1.3178
http://download.windowsupdate.com/d..._2db4f6d9a62833406875986aae69351f82f3ca2b.msu

 

en_windows_10_consumer_editions_version_2004_x64_dvd_8d28c5d7.iso

This is the RTM build released to OEMs

 

Party like it’s 2004 – just don’t install it askwoody.com

Right now, my general impression of verison 2004 is MEH. Comparing 1903/1909 — which are virtually identical — with 2004, I don’t see one thing that’s better about 2004. And, yes, I’ve read all the reviews – and written a few short ones myself. (Note: Preston Gralla has an extensive overview in Computerworld: Windows 10 May 2020 Update delivers little tweaks that add up to… well, not a lot.)

Yeah, on level with 1903/1909. The worst Win 10 version in history. What a improvement @Mr. Fox
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nd-announcements.826887/page-48#post-11012173

 

Review: Windows 10 May 2020 Update delivers little tweaks that add up to... well, not a lot

https://www.computerworld.com/artic...tle-tweaks-that-add-up-to-well-not-a-lot.html

 

“With this upgrade, the indexing only takes place when your computer isn’t too busy, which should theoretically make your PC faster. I can’t say that I noticed a difference in my PC’s performance”

What a joke. Performance gains, LOOL

 

Everything craps all over Window's dinosaur technology Indexing.

Try this, open Computer, type *.PDF in the search then hit enter, (just as a test) and see how long it takes Windows to find all .PDF files for example. It will take around 60 seconds. Now try that in Everything, takes less then 0.2 seconds! Magic!

Next Windows 10 Updates, Windows 10 20H2. changelog, Improved and faster Emojis!

 

That's all they are able to do... The rest is an tragedy.

Windows 10 KB4556799 issues: Broken audio, incorrect profile Windowslatest | May 17, 2020
Windows 10 KB4556799, which is the most recent cumulative update, is plagued with at least two issues---broken audio and temporary user profile (data loss).

 

A Disk Defarg & Optimize bug present since a very long time still not fixed even in the RTM build. Basically when you optimize or defarg your disk, when you restart and launch it again, it shows that the drive was never defragmented.

 

I'd built windows myself with the same quality.. (because I'm a noob and don't know anything about programming c and c++)

They seem to be amateurs.. Damn

 

Yeah it's pathetic that until this day they have such basic issues like this and their popular start menu problems, it's rocket science you know!

 

I think I've posted a workaround somewhere in this thread and at ghacks.net
What I did was to delete sub-keys under defrgsrv or something which gets filled with garbage values after performing Defrag/TRIM with /K command or even normal /O command.
/K initiates Thin client provisioning which changes how data is stored for optimal stripe size.

Even if I take up the Win 10 development, I may have to write a will to pass it to my grand-children and their grand-children since everyday there will new problems to fix and hopefully it will never be released to the public!

 

More mess from Redmond HQ.


Intel Microcode Updates Windows 10 1909, 1903, 1809 and below (05/20/2020)
good Morning May 20, 2020
[Update May 20, 2020]: It looks like Microsoft has updated all Intel Microcode updates. For Windows 10 1909 it is now displayed as windows10.0-kb4497165-v4. Changes on the support page don't seem to exist yet.

• The downloads are linked in the KB numbers. Pay attention to the date.
• Windows 10 1909/1903 : KB4497165
• support.microsoft.com/kb4497165-intel-microcode-updates

 

Microsoft is investigating Windows 10 update issues windowslatest.com - May 22, 2020

Windows 10 KB4556799 is plagued with audio issues and temporary user profile bug, according to user reports. Additionally, it appears that Windows 10's important security patch is causing performance issues including frame-rate drops and...

Windows 10 KB4556799 Update Breaks Wireless LTE Connectivity bleepingcomputers.com - MAY 22, 2020
Microsoft says that computers with a wireless wide area network (WWAN) LTE modem may lose connectivity after installing the Windows 10 KB4556799 cumulative update.

HP PCs are getting KMODE BSOD after Windows 10 update windowslatest.com - May 22, 2020

If you just hit "KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED" Blue Screen of Death error on your HP computer with Windows 10, don't worry, it's not a hardware issue and it's not just you. "KMODE" Blue Screen of Death—or BSOD—...

Based on multiple reports and user theory, it appears that Blue Screen of Death is caused by recent Windows Defender and HP updates not getting along.

Yeah, it looks like Microsoft don't want cooperate with it's sleeping partners.

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A side note...

Microsoft is hiring more staff to ramp up Surface Duo development Windowslatest.com - May 21, 2020

Microsoft's Android-powered Surface Duo is one of the most exciting phones in 2020. The unique dual-screen phone could replace your traditional smartphone and tablet if it turns out to be the revolutionary device that Microsoft promised last year....

Why not hire more staff to fix their core product? No point in new hardware if the OS is full of bugs!

Only one week from new Windows main version will se the light Built on top of this MESS!

 

So much bad news all in a single post.

I used to think being a Micro$lop butt-kisser was part of why Dell is circling the drain. That might be true, but tragedy upon tragedy feels more like an inherited vice or a copycat scenario than guilt by association.

What makes it the same tragic story is that it doesn't matter which one you are talking about, in both cases their broken garbage works as intended.