Windows 10 20H2

I can't thank j00 enough for gifting me Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC! Loving using it every day. No bugs, no buggy updates, no bloatware, no crap! It just works! Windows 10 20H1 still has the Disk Optimizer & Defrag bug even though it reached version .246 via updates. Basically when you run a disk defrag/optimize (TRIM) it says last optimized X days ago. If you close it and re-open it again, it says Disk Defrag has never been run I can't believe how Micro$h4ft isn't embarrassed which such stupid and simple bugs and they don't even care to fix them.

 

I don't think anyone in their right mind would buy Surface duo since it will get same treatment like W10M after a year or two. I don't think many people would go and throw valuable money on another Android phone from MSFT since they are happy with Android from Google/OEMs.

 

I agree. The trouble with your (our) rationale is that it makes good sense and the world is overrun by irrational people that never seem to run out of stupid things to do with their time or money.

 

Windows Hello is getting two new features in Windows 10 2004
May 25, 2020
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ne...-getting-two-new-features-in-windows-10-2004/

 

I wonder why they keep releasing features that are stupid?

Spoiler: Answer

Because they are stupid people.

 

dude that's been there forever I guess because this is on LTSC 1809 I just never saw that section. you have to dive deep in to access it.

Settings > Update & Security > Windows Security > Apps & Browser Control > scroll down till the end > Exploit Protection Settings.

And there I thought all that we needed was to Disable Windows Defender and its startup services!

This OS is a performance virus in itself!

Edit: Sorry I thought you were referring to this post: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-10-redstone-5.823238/page-87#post-11017449

 

”Compared to Windows 10 1909, which felt more like a service pack, Windows 10 2004 is full of new features that should make it an exciting update”

This coming new and shiny is still built on top of today’s buggy tragedy. More useless features only means more bugs.

 

Yes I was. And, all that crap being turned off is correct. No need for that poop.

 

They still can't get the bugs of 20H1 fixed to release it already and they are already talking about 20H2

20H2 will be a small upgrade just like 1903 > 1909 not a full build that will need new drivers and software (ie. new antivirus update)

 

What's really beautiful about all of this is we don't have any reason to care because we are LTSC elitists. Only the peasants using the consumer trash have to worry about the messes that are being vomited into their laps. Unless somebody posts a link and tags me and asks for an opinion, or something similar, I pay no attention to any the silly hype about what is coming next in the Windoze OS X bottomless slop bucket.

All of the Google "Articles for you" on my phone that shows up when I launch Chrome... if it is related to Windows 10 I choose the option "Not interested in Windows 10" or "Not interested in Micro$oft" but the crap keeps coming. They are all part of the brainwashing conspiracy and don't respect what we want even when we are presented with an option to express what we want. Bastards.

 

LTSC is the real Windows 10 and everything else is BETA. They use consumers to beta test this mess of an OS

 

People jumped right on 1903 while I stayed on 1809. Only better option was LTSC version who is of course built on that OS version. And the same people hoped everything would be better with 1909. But as all know... Same OS version with some small features that was hided in the old flawed 1903. The real down screw come with 1903. I know, because I have tested them all for my benching https://hwbot.org/team/premamod/#Members

It's a reason I never upgraded to the new and flawed and stayed with it (The testing was done on my older inventory).

 

That's the nice thing about having storage up the kazoo on my desktop. I can have a crash test dummy drive to experiment with the filth whilst not disturbing the OSes that I actually care about. Then when I level criticism and vitriol for the filth it is based on personal experience rather than a logical expression of contempt based on previous demonstrations of poor judgment and bad behavior.

 

If you test the newer OS versions on very weak older machine(s), you can fast find out what's work or not (they are more sensitive to any changes... stability - performance etc).

Micro$lope promised compatibility and no problems with hardware as long it can run Win 7/8.1. If those older machines from that time start struggle keep up after upgrade, then you know something is screwed up.

 

If its a package update, then I believe we might be able to download the Windows Hello package through WU.

 

Windows 10 version 2004 roll-out imminent as Microsoft publishes release information pages
May 26, 2020

https://www.neowin.net/news/windows...microsoft-publishes-release-information-pages

 

Windows 10 Media Creation Tool 2004

Windows 10 May 2020 Update

 

Windows 10 May 2020 Update (v2004): System Requirements and Compatible Chips wccftech.com | Today

As mentioned in an earlier piece, this is the first Windows 10 version coming under the new leadership of Panos Panay and Amanda Langowski who are now spearheading the OS and Insider programs. The company has also baked Windows 10 2004 way longer than any previous version.

Yeah, and nothing will change! Let the bug game begin......

Win10 version 2004 is here but… surprise!
Posted on May 27th, 2020 at 13:49 woody

Win10 version 2004 has been officially released.

Microsoft’s been testing it since December. We’ve been getting official notices about 2004’s status for months. The last official notice, on May 12, didn’t list any known bugs. Today’s notice, though, comes packed with all sorts of known, officially acknowledged, problems:

• Difficulty connecting to more than one Bluetooth device
  Windows 10 devices with certain Realtek drivers might be unable to connect to more than one Bluetooth device.
• Errors or issues during or after updating devices with Conexant ISST audio drivers
  Devices with affected Conexant ISST audio drivers might receive an error or have issues with Windows 10, version 2004.
• Errors or issues during or after updating devices with certain Conexant audio drivers
  Devices with affected Conexant or Synaptics audio drivers might receive a stop error with a blue screen.
• Issues using ImeMode property to control IME mode for individual text entry fields
  Some IMEs for certain langauges might have issues using the ImeMode property with certain apps.
• Variable refresh rate not working as expected on devices with Intel iGPU
  Enabling VRR on affected devices will not enable the VRR for most games, especially games using Direct X 9.
• Stop error when plugging or unplugging a Thunderbolt dock
  Devices using Thunderbolt docks may receive a stop error when plugging in or unplugging the dock
• Errors or unexpected restarts for some devices using Always On, Always Connected
  Devices with more than one Always On, Always Connected capable network adapter might have issues.
• No mouse input with apps and games using GameInput Redistributable
  Affected apps and games using both GameInput Redistributable and Windows 10, version 2004 might lose mouse input.
• Issues updating or starting up devices when aksfridge.sys or aksdf.sys is present
  Devices with apps or drivers using certain versions of aksfridge.sys or aksdf.sys might have issues updating or starting
• Issue with older drivers for Nvidia display adapters (GPU)
  You might have issues if you are using an Nvidia display adapter (GPU) and drivers with a version below 358.00.

 

which I have done with 20H1 a few months ago from an earlier 19041.x build to the current one (19041.264) and surprisingly these older desktop & laptop PCs that I have encountered no serious problems with 2004/20H1 - and the recent build of 2004/20H1 seems a little faster than 190x, 1809 & older Win10 versions
lucky me huh, Papusan?

and here are the direct download links to the 20H1 build 19041.264 client multi-edition US english ESD files ( 32bit) ( 64bit)

 

Haven’t tested the new and shiny (2004) on the gp machine with 1 wimpy core I'm quite sure it won't make it run faster.

Maybe one of you can test out the promised and <amazing> new HDD speedups

I will maybe change mind when I see you all is able to score above 2116 cb in CB-15 with stock clocked [email protected] in your notebooks.

 

I am typing this on my acer 7720 running 1909. It is downloading 2004 via update assistant as I type now. It has been great on 1909. Supposedly, 2004 will give a speed boost to older iron. We will see in a few hours! Once I give it a try I can see if the system feels faster and snappier. I do have one issue where I have to run wifi troubleshooting on startup to get the adapter to reset. Once that is done, it's all smooth sailing with my old beast. I hope this will clear that little hiccup up as well.

25% Complete as we speak.

 

All done. I will let it settle in for a few hours and see what happens. IMO, the couple of restarts it has done fixed the wifi issue I was having so thats a positive. speed is not that much different but I find that my computers need a couple of days to settle down after the update in order to see the speed increase.

 

Well that didn't take long. The computer has settled in and it's snappier than on 1909. I restarted the computer 4 times and each time wireless connects right away, no having to fiddle with the trouble shooter anymore either. I am very pleased with the performance of my old tank.

 

The Best Features from Windows 10's Big May 2020 Update

 

Hmm. I was expecting the link to go to a blank page
Personally, I don't see any use for any of the things mentioned. I've pretty much found ways to do any of the relevant features already.


Hey, wait a minute… didn't you buy a Mac or something?

 

He tried, but...
Is grass always greener on the other side?

 

It's funny because "download a clean OS install" functionality has been present in Macs since at least 2011.

 

2004 here, so far so good, but i am one of those lucky people to never had issues with any OS

i even loved vista

the only new thing i see now is the temp of the gpu in task manager

 

And It Begins… All the Windows 10 v2004 Known Issues as Confirmed by Microsoft Itself


Here is the complete list of Windows 10 version 2004 known issues acknowledged by Microsoft

1 DISM might incorrectly report corruption is still present after repair:
After using the Deployment Image Servicing and Management (DISM.exe) command /restorehealth to detect and correct system corruption, you might receive a report from the tool that corruption is still present. This can occur even when it has been repaired. An example for using the /restorehealth command is: DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth Mitigated
2 Variable refresh rate not working as expected on devices with Intel iGPU:
Intel and Microsoft have found incompatibility issues when using a monitor with Variable refresh rate (VRR) plugged into an Intel integrated graphics processing unit (iGPU) display adapter and Windows 10, version 2004 (the Windows 10 May 2020 Update). Enabling VRR on affected devices will not enable the VRR for games using Direct X 9. Investigating
3 Difficulty connecting to more than one Bluetooth device:
Realtek and Microsoft have found incompatibility issues with certain versions of drivers for Realtek Bluetooth radios and Windows 10, version 2004 (the Windows 10 May 2020 Update). Windows 10 devices with affected Realtek Bluetooth radio drivers might be unable to connect or pair with more than one Bluetooth device at a time after updating. Investigating
4 Errors or issues during or after updating devices with Conexant ISST audio drivers:
Synaptics and Microsoft have found incompatibility issues with certain versions of drivers for Conexant ISST audio driver and Windows 10, version 2004 (the Windows 10 May 2020 Update). Windows 10 devices with affected Conexant ISST audio driver might receive an error or experience issues while installing the update or after the device has updated. The affected driver will be named Conexant ISST Audio or Conexant HDAudio Driver under Sound, video and game controllers in Device Manager and have file name uci64a96.dll through uci64a231.dll and a file version lower than 7.231.3.0. Investigating
5 Errors or issues during or after updating devices with certain Conexant audio drivers:
Synaptics and Microsoft have found incompatibility issues with certain versions of drivers for Conexant or Synaptics audio devices and Windows 10, version 2004 (the Windows 10 May 2020 Update). Windows 10 devices with affected Conexant or Synaptics audio drivers might receive a stop error with a blue screen during or after updating to Windows 10, version 2004. The affected driver will be named Conexant HDAudio Driver under Sound, video and game controllers in Device Manager and have versions 8.65.47.53, 8.65.56.51, or 8.66.0.0 through 8.66.89.00 for chdrt64.sys or chdrt32.sys. Investigating
6 Issues using ImeMode property to control IME mode for individual text entry fields:
Some apps utilize the ImeMode property to control the IME (Input Method Editor) mode for individual text entry fields to increase typing efficiency. Some IMEs in Windows 10, version 2004 (the May 2020 Update) might have issues using the ImeMode property with certain apps. For example, the input mode will not switch automatically to Kanji or Hiragana. Investigating
7 Stop error when plugging or unplugging a Thunderbolt dock:
Intel and Microsoft have found incompatibility issues when Windows 10, version 2004 (the Windows 10 May 2020 Update) is used with certain settings and a Thunderbolt dock. On affected devices, you might receive a stop error with a blue screen when plugging or unplugging a Thunderbolt dock. Affected Windows 10 devices will have at least one Thunderbolt port, have Kernel DMA Protection enabled and Windows Hypervisor Platform disabled. To verify your Kernel DMA Protection settings, please see How to check if Kernel DMA Protection is enabled. To verify your Windows Hypervisor Platform settings, select Start, type turn windows features on or off and select it. When the Windows Features dialog opens, find the setting for Windows Hypervisor Platform. If it is note checked, then Windows Hypervisor Platform is disabled. Investigating
8 Errors or unexpected restarts for some devices using Always On, Always Connected:
Some devices using the Always On, Always Connected feature might have compatibility issues with Windows 10, version 2004 (the Windows 10 May 2020 Update). Affected devices will have more than one Always On, Always Connected capable network adapter, such as the Microsoft Surface Pro 7 and Microsoft Surface Laptop 3, and might receive errors or unexpected shutdown or restart. Investigating
9 No mouse input with apps and games using GameInput Redistributable:
An incompatibility issue was found with some apps and games using GameInput Redistributable and Windows 10, version 2004 (the Windows 10 May 2020 Update). Affected apps or games might lose mouse input. Note GameInput Redistributable might be bundle with apps and games and might be silently installed during the installation of that app or game. Investigating
10 Issues updating or starting up devices when aksfridge.sys or aksdf.sys is present:
An incompatibility issue was found with apps or drivers using certain versions of aksfridge.sys or aksdf.sys and Windows 10, version 2004 (the Windows 10 May 2020 Update). When an affected version of aksfridge.sys or aksdf.sys is present, Windows 10, version 2004 might fail to install or might fail to start after updating. Affected file versions are up to 1.8.0.* for aksfridge.sys or up to 1.51.* for aksdf.sys. Investigating
11 Issue with older drivers for Nvidia display adapters (GPU):
Nvidia and Microsoft have found incompatibility issues with certain versions of Nvidia display adapter drivers and Windows 10, version 2004 (the Windows 10 May 2020 Update). Windows 10 devices with affected Nvidia display driver versions might receive a stop error with a blue screen or other issues during or after installing the update to Windows 10, version 2004. The affected drivers are any version lower than 358.00.

Workaround: To mitigate this issue, you will need to check with your device manufacturer (OEM) to see if an updated driver is available and install it.

Next steps: Microsoft and Nvidia are working on a resolution and will provide an update in an upcoming release.

Note We recommend that you do not attempt to manually update using the Update now button or the Media Creation Tool until this issue has been resolved.

Why the hurry push out this awful buggy OS version before it works as intended?


And Nvidia couldn't even add WDDM 2.7 support in their brand new driver for this particular OS version. Most likely due the rushed release. YEES!

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How to Uninstall Windows 10’s May 2020 Update

Warning: You Only Have 10 Days
Microsoft lets you uninstall a major update and “roll back” to your old version of Windows 10—probably the November 2019 Update—but you only have ten days after installing the update to do so. After ten days, Windows 10 will automatically delete the required files from your PC to free up space. Microsoft expects that, if you encounter problems, you’ll go back in the first ten days. Why wait at all?

 

Mines perfect too. All the windows "issues" happen to a very very small sample of users. Even my old 2007 acer 7720 is running better since installing 2004. I have to update my wifes and sons notebooks today.

 

I have never, not once, experienced any of the issues that PooPoosan posts about Windows
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Deprecated and Removed Features in Windows 10 Version 2004

 

same here, Spartan.

my old Dell Inspiron e1405 laptop running a 32bit Win10 v2004 (19041.264) OS (cuz the laptop has an Intel Core Duo T2700 cpu which only supports 32bit OSes and not 64bit) came out unscathed

I don't mind being the "unpaid beta tester" for these new Win10 versions that come out though I had v2004 on there since the insider preview version w/ build 19041.84.

 

Most likely user errors but this should still not happen after several months of testing... Three different Alienware laptop models and all with similar behaviours. Nice with something new and shiny @Mr. Fox @Ashtrix @jc_denton +++

Don't install the latest windows 10 2004 update
It totally jacked my 17r4 and makes your laptop unusable. Basically, it freezes and does nothing. No programs will open, etc. Don't be me. Don't install it.

Area51m random freezing



Microsoft and Dell haven’t always been friends...

Microsoft blocked Windows 10 April Update install on Alienware laptops Windowsreport.com

 

I agree it should not happen. There is no excuse for it. It probably is user error or just another Dell-sponsored failure. They want their customers to buy a new computer instead of updating Windoze to a new service pack.

After making a Macrium image of my TongFang turdbook I did an in-place upgrade to Windoes X 2004 and nothing went wrong. I didn't do anything special, just puckered my posterior orifice and ran it from Windoes Slopdate in Settings. No problems so far. No benefit so far. As usual... totally pointless, worthless "update" for no reason whatsoever. Thanks, Micro$lop... for NOTHING. (LOL, damned losers.)

 

"Microsoft adds a message to the Windows 10 update page if a device is blocked from receiving feature update"

- Earlier this week, Microsoft finally released the Windows 10 May 2020 Update to Windows 10 users... Microsoft has now updated the Windows 10 update page to indicate if a device is now eligible to receive the update. If you plan to update your system to May 2020 Update and Microsoft has blocked the update, you will see the following message...

https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-message-windows-10-update-blocked-update/

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I wonder if these Alienware users saw the same message?

 

I used Windows 10 Update Assistant on one of the old. Haven’t seen similar mess as for the Alienware’s in the links above.

Dell lists Alienware computers have been tested for update to Windows 10 May 2020 Update. But we all know this can change over night. I wouldn't put 100% trust in what they claims.

https://www.dell.com/support/articl...ions-of-windows-10?lang=en#Alienware-NB-20H1U

 

I'm wondering if everyone should just buy cheap and/or old computers. My cheap Dell 2 in 1 devices, my sons old acer s3 and my ancient 7720 all run perfectly on 2004. Seems this new fangled stuff is the issue.

 

I have a colorful phrase to describe Dell that I won't repeat here but after repeated issues with Alienware I wouldn't be caught dead buying another so this doesn't suprise me.

HP Zbook Studio 15 G5 checking in, 2004 update does *NOT* fix error 12 for EGPU users. Fast ring showing different build number "19635.mn_release.200522" which *DOES* fix error 12. Also as mentioned in release notes Connexit and other Synaptic audio devices do routinely bounce giving the impression the device is seeing a hardware failure. Behavior not observed on fast ring.

I'm not sure how a beta build is more stable than release but here we are. If you want 2004 use the fast ring build not retail.

 

Just lovely with the new and shiny. Want it work... Swap to older hardware, LOOL

Windows 10 May 2020 Update, which was released to mainstream users in May, is not compatible with some Intel Optane memory modules.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nd-announcements.826887/page-51#post-11020437

 

Their failures are scheduled to occur monthly, on a Tuesday. Being consist is important. Failing just once is not enough and they know there is a world filled with muppets counting on them to deliver that.

 

And yet you updated, all the same... The rhetoric here is confusing. Everyone here hates Windows, and yet they still use it? Why???

 

He updated to test and see if there's anything worthwhile in the new update. Microsoft promised increased CPU performance by mitigating the CPU performance loss caused by the Spectre/Meltdown patches. I tested it, same exact score in CINEBENCH but I had to try.

As for why do we use Windows? because there is no other alternative OS that can do all the things Windows can.

MacOS apps suck, they don't even have 1 download manager that can properly integrate into the browser to capture downloads automatically, you have to copy/paste each download link manually into the download manager. Sure you can use other browsers than Safari but then you get crappy battery life. The list is too big to list about the shortfalls of MacOS but that's just one example. Their apps left alot for me to be desired and forget about gaming.

Linux until this date is not an OS I will consider. Many apps that I use are missing and the most important thing, the basics, which is driver support is not there. Installing a drive in Linux requires a lot of research on how to use SUDO commands and what not! This is not 1995 anymore! Most people just wanna double click an app/driver and install it. Let alone the fact that for laptops the FN keys and feature like controlling lights, fans, etc, are not even an option. IMHO, Linux will never *ever* reach a state where it can be deployed on a large scale on consumer computers. They forget about the basics, which is getting it to work on most computers rather than focusing on apps and whatnot.

So with all its shortcomings, Windows is still the only OS that is useable if you want to watch movies, browse the net, enjoy the most popular apps, and play games. Luckily we know hot to tame it to behave as we want.

 

I have multiple installations. Those I rely on do not receive updates. My crash test dummy installation gets all of the filth the Redmond Retards can throw at it for testing purposes. My desktop boots Windows 7, three versions of Windows 10 and Linux Mint. My laptop boots Windows 10 and Linux. If I could do everything I want to do with Linux I would not use Windows 10 at all. It's garbage.

 

Anyone noticed a performance increase in CPU/GPU in this build?

 

Nope. Nothing on the crash test dummy OS. No improvements I can identify.

 

A minimal gains in HWBOT PiFast Benchmark
But nothing to write home about. Maybe you should throw in an old fashion HDD and check out Micro$lopes performance boost claims I'm sure you have the time

 

"Windows 10 2004: external displays go black when drawing in Word"

- Microsoft says that external displays might go black if Windows 10, version 2004 users try to draw in apps including but not limited to Microsoft Office Word and Whiteboard.

- After the affected external monitors go black, customers will see that their graphics controllers are being marked as having issues in Device Manager.

- Redmond does say that they are working on a fix for this issue to be released in a future Windows 10 2004 version.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ne...ernal-displays-go-black-when-drawing-in-word/

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Now that's a new one!


EDIT: - Apparently not too new! I missed @Papusan's post here http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nd-announcements.826887/page-52#post-11021024

 

I agree but i just tested mint on my desk and lap and it was great. All drivers ok. All fn keys ok. Took less ram. Less hdd. Booted faster. It was a good experience.

But off course i need my gaming desk and some windows apps so i had to go back. But it was great for me a noob. For browsing. Movies. Torrent. Office. Was just awesome. Ubuntu i did not like it a bit. Tested a lot more distros but in the end mint was the best one for a 100% noob

 

"What is the Windows 10 Windows Feature Experience Pack?"

- Once you get the May 2020 Windows 10 update, you also get this new pack, which Microsoft officials oddly won't discuss.

- As Microsoft continues to expand the pool of people who are getting the Windows 10 May 2020/2004 update automatically, it's also expanding the group that will have something called the "Windows Feature Experience Pack" installed on their machines.

- ... the Windows Feature Experience Pack listed as one of the Features on Demand for Windows 10 and Windows Server.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/what-is-windows-10s-windows-feature-experience-pack/

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Are you Experienced?

 

Interesting...