Windows 10 Redstone 5

Windows 10 1809 Build 17763.404 Cumulative Update

Install the updates in the order that's listed below:
1) 2019-03 Servicing Stack Update for Windows 10 Version 1809 (KB4493510) = http://download.windowsupdate.com/d..._f692d391a4869d910c754895169dbd0d237a86da.msu

2) 2019-03 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1809 (KB4490481) = http://download.windowsupdate.com/c..._a07dfdc8de3f0c2f590c950410a8a40522cd07dd.msu

3) 2019-03 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.7.2 for Windows 10 Version 1809 (KB4489192) = http://download.windowsupdate.com/d..._872afd1aabdc1ee545f0e654ac550997d9548aae.msu

Changelog

 

KB4490481 fixes Group Policy in Windows 10 V1809
Published on April 4, 2019 by Günter Born

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The cumulative update KB4490481 that has just been released also fixes several issues with Group Policy and continues to add Group Policy in Windows 10 V1809.

Problem with the whole approach: Although there is the cumulative update KB4490481 as an optional update for Windows 10. But the update has a whole lath of known bug, I had in the blog post Windows 10 V1809: Updates KB4490481 and KB4493510 described. Therefore, one has the choice between plague and cholera regarding the installation.

From the comments section...

 

reports on the BSODs caused by installing the KB4490481 update on some machines running v1809:
https://borncity.com/win/2019/04/05/windows-10-v1809-update-kb4490481-causes-blue-screens/
https://www.askwoody.com/2019/relia...9s-second-march-cumulative-update-kb-4490481/

workarounds/fixes to the BSODs with KB4490481:
https://news.softpedia.com/news/how...s-10-cumulative-update-kb4490481-525599.shtml
https://www.askwoody.com/2019/there...-cumulative-update-for-win10-1809-kb-4490481/

 

KB4493509 Windows 10 1809 17763.437 (Manual download) April 9th

Known issues with the KB4493509

• After installing this update, custom application log handler URI schemes will fail to launch the appropriate local intranet application and trusted Web sites in Internet Explorer. In Internet Explorer, go to Tools> Internet Options> Security. Select a zone Enable Local Intranet and then Protected Mode. And then activate Protected Mode.
• After you install this update, there may be problems with the Preboot Execution Environment (PXE) to start a device from a Windows Deployment Services (WDS) server that is configured to use the Window Extension variable. This can cause the connection to the WDS server to be prematurely terminated while the image is being downloaded. This problem does not affect clients or devices that do not use a Window Extension variable.

Fixed issues in the KB4493509

• Fixes an issue that occurs when you enable End User Defined Characters (EUDC) per font. The system stops working and a blue screen appears at startup. This is not common in non-Asian countries.
• Fixes an issue that could cause applications using MSXML6 to stop responding when an exception was thrown during node operations.
• Fixes an issue where Group Policy Editor stops responding when it edits a Group Policy object (GPO) that contains Group Policy Preferences (GPP) for Internet Explorer 10 Internet settings.
• Fixes an issue that may lead to authentication issues for Internet Explorer 11 and other applications that use WININET.DLL. This occurs when two or more people use the same user account for multiple concurrent logon sessions on the same Windows Server computer, including Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) and Terminal Server logins.
• Security Updates for Windows Datacenter Networking, Windows Server, Microsoft JET Database Engine, Windows Kernel, Windows Input and Composition, Microsoft Scripting Engine, Windows App Platform and Frameworks, Windows Storage and Filesystems, Microsoft Graphics Component, Windows Virtualization, Windows MSXML, Windows SQL Components and Microsoft Edge.
• support.microsoft

Direct dowload links

• windows10.0-kb4493509-x64.msu 163.7 MB

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Flash Player 32.0.0.171 KB4493478 is available for download

• KB4493478 for all versions

Edited (April 11, 2019)

Windows 10 microcode update April 2019 for the 1809 and below deskmodder.com | April 11, 2019

Microsoft has updated the microcode updates again. This time, take the KB numbers from February. The download size of the individual updates has increased compared to the last update in March. As it stands, new CPUs have been added to the list.

Cherry View (Cherry Trail, Braswell) - Intel Celeron, Intel Pentium and also the Atom x5-E8000. This shows a comparison of the list with that from the cache of March 31st. The individual files are now between 1.7 and 2.2 MB in size. So once again significantly larger than its predecessors . As always, pay attention to the date.

Direct dowwnload link...

Windows 10 1809: KB4465065 ( Overview )

 

Don't install this update. I installed it on my desktop and it was fine at first, but it created long long long boot times, as well as 'spinning blue circles of waiting' on the desktop, and just general 'hangs' that required a hard reset, but then it would hang again at boot! I'm in the process of trying to sort it out by applying a Macrium Reflect back up image, and then I need to work out how to stop Windows downloading the update automatically (which it did the 1st time!). I think I need to set it to metered or something.

Some other users also having similar problems over on tenforums: https://www.tenforums.com/windows-1...ows-10-v1809-build-17763-437-april-9-a-2.html

 

Works well here... How to stop the trash http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...stallation-guide.781178/page-64#post-10785713

 

I'd rather use 'Microsoft methods' for temporarily blocking downloads, as I'm thinking that quite a few users will have the same problems as me with this update, thus I think they will release a quick fix, fingers crossed! I've set my ethernet connection to metered and it's not automatically downloading the updates now. However, I'd like to apply all updates apart from the KB4493509. I did some research and there's wushowhide tool from Microsoft where it can hide specific updates that didn't install properly. Problem is that if I click the Update button now it will download and automatically try & install that horrible update. How do I get it to download the updates but not apply them automatically?

 

I prefer to have fully control on everything myself.

For you. Check out this http://m.majorgeeks.com/files/details/wumt_wrapper_script.html

Or was it this tool http://m.majorgeeks.com/files/details/windows_update_minitool.html

I trust only manually updates myself.

 

Thanks, that could be it, but seems a little complicated, but gotta eat now so can't dedicate anymore time right now to understanding it.

If I weren't to use that, I suppose I could leave my connection as metered to prevent any automatic updates, but then install specific KB's from manual downloads from the catalog? Thing is, how do I find out all the specific KB's I need to download? I want to download all relevant apart from KB4493509.

(This is just a temporary measure until Microsoft fix this KB that I'm sure lots of people having issue with).

 

Normally posted in this thread. Yo can look at Deskmodder, Borncity, Askwoody, ghacks or Winaero. You have also My Digital Life

 

Thanks man for your help on this, all your previous posts on it, I'll google those websites to find a list of KB's I need that have released recently since the date of my image I reinstalled, and then I'll install those whilst avoiding that horrible KB4493509 that's giving me the hangs - it's basically unusuable as it hangs at boot most of the time, so you can't do anything, and then if you get to the desktop it hangs there randomly. +rep to you, you deserve it for your help!

 

Ok, did some googling & I'm gonna install the following KB's manually from the catalogue based on my system image being taken on 18th March:
kb4490481 - which is the previous windows build update for v1809
kb4493478 - which is Adobe flash player security update released today
kb890830 - which is the Malicious Software Removal tool released today.

There are still security updates that I'm missing out on by not being able to install that troublesome KB4493509, but that renders my PC unusable and is the KB that updates the build number of the OS.

Can you think of any that I've missed that have been released today? Don't do long winded research to answer me, but not sure what you've noticed or not from today's patches.

 

I mean Ghacks or Winaero has them. Most likely that Microsoft main download page for each build has them listed.

I expect you don’t use Internet Explorer. Main reason to patch.

 

I think the Internet Explorer patch was either part of the dreaded KB4493509 which I can't install, or it was a separate KB that I didn't download because I don't have and/or don't use Internet Explorer.

Yep, I used Ghacks to work out which ones I needed, which linked me through to various Microsoft web pages that included tables of different KB's and what they did.

I think it's good for now, I hope Microsoft quickly release a fix for the the KB4493509 problem. If they release a fix will they release a new KB? I'm assuming they can't release a fix for KB4493509 using the same number?

 

We don't know. But they have done this before so who know?

You could of course download KB4493509 as standalone from my previous post #704 and try it again. I haven't seen problem with it. Maybe this time it will work better.

 

Update to the KB4493509 issues I've been having. It might be related to an incompatibility with Avira Free Antivirus. I tried installing the update on my laptop, which also has Avira, and I'm getting the same hangs. Given my laptop is wildly different to my Skylake desktop in terms of hardware, then I'm thinking Avira is the common link here - but props to @6.|THE|1|BOSS|.9 for messaging me earlier that Avira could be the issue (he didn't know about my laptop even at that point). It seems that Avira is the link, but not categorically proven though.

 

I either use Eset on Win Defender. And I don't run into same problems as others. + I don't click update once new patches is out as others.

 

Ha, you're right about "not clicking on update", I think I should learn from that - I should give Microsoft at least a few days or whatever to sort their sh*t out! Ha!

 

I can update my laptop for you to see if the said issue will come up. Since Papusan said he didn't have a problem thats a go sign for me to update. hahahaha
brb will keep you posted. By the way I have the i7-6700hq.

 

Yeah, a very smart change

Btw... Why trust Micro$haft make it correct?
Widespread reports of freezing with this month’s Win7 Monthly Rollup, KB 4493472, and Win8.1 Monthly rollup KB 4493446
Posted on April 10th, 2019 at 07:26 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge
Spiceworks has a nearly-feature-length litany of problems with KB 4493472.

DON’T let Windows Automatic Update get to your Windows 7 or 8.1 (or Server 2008 R2 or Server 2012 R2) machines. But you knew that already.

Thx @BotlsfanKevin

UPDATE: Server 2008 R2 machines are falling left and right. From the Sophos Endpoint Security blog:

SAV service was logging lots of error messages in event log. Event IDs : 7022 (service hang), 80, 81, 83, 85, 82, 566, 608, 592.

The server became unresponsive, no rdp, no file share access, Ctrl Alt Delete not working.

Only solution is to uninstall the patch. Which may be difficult.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Sophos has posted an official acknowledgment, putting the blame on both the Win7 Monthly Rollup and the Win 8.1 Monthly Rollup, KB 4493467:

If you have not yet performed the update we recommend not doing so.

If you have performed the update but not yet rebooted we recommend removing the update prior to rebooting.

If you have performed the update and have rebooted, triggering the issue:

Boot into safe mode
Disable the Sophos Anti-Virus service
Boot into normal mode
Uninstall the Windows KB
Enable the Sophos Anti-Virus service

It’s still much, much too early to tell if the same change in Win7 and 8.1 will also clobber other software. Just sit tight and wait for the MS-DEFCON level to change.

More details (including a question about precisely which patches are breaking Sophos) in Computerworld Woody on Windows.

 

@Robbo99999 Updated to CU kb4493509 and Flash Player kb4493478 as Papusan recommended. No issue that you have stated as of the moment. The only problem that I have noticed with my laptop is that on boot up before seeing the desktop screen it will show a black screen first for a split second then able to see my desktop. I think this is related to the intel graphic driver. I am using the older version as I was too lazy to update/search for a good driver. Still using intel graphic driver version 25.20.100.6373.
Edited:
Best advice I could give is let Papusan be the GP. Once he says its all good that the time we update. hahahahahha

 

I'm happy to help.. I didn't even know that you were using avira it is the same reason why I have no issues with Windows Updates due to no antivirus is installed into my system I really know very well how to face viruses I already hit 3 years without formatting my Windows 10... always upgrading.. and yet without any hiccups from 1607 to 1703 to 1709 to 1803 to 1809 [currently]

If I faced any issues.. I do the same like you.. just simply recover from an image file.. and voila.. back to business

 

One thing for sure... Poopy will never ever be a GP! I do my due dilligence before I do any changes. I haven't the time fiddle with trash.

 

New updates added into the orginal "Win update" post.
Windows 10 microcode update April 2019 for the 1809 and below deskmodder.com | April 11, 2019

Microsoft has updated the microcode updates again. This time, take the KB numbers from February. The download size of the individual updates has increased compared to the last update in March. As it stands, new CPUs have been added to the list.

Cherry View (Cherry Trail, Braswell) - Intel Celeron, Intel Pentium and also the Atom x5-E8000. This shows a comparison of the list with that from the cache of March 31st. The individual files are now between 1.7 and 2.2 MB in size. So once again significantly larger than its predecessors . As always, pay attention to the date.

Direct dowwnload link...

Windows 10 1809: KB4465065 ( Overview )

 

Interesting, Sandybridge has gone from 2D to 2E for the microcode, so that will make a change to my notebook - I wonder what the update was for specifically? Skylake unchanged, that's still on C6 (my desktop).

 

It seems its for added cpu's. From the link:

As it stands, new CPUs have been added to the list.

Cherry View (Cherry Trail, Braswell) - Intel Celeron, Intel Pentium and also the Atom x5-E8000. This shows a comparison of the list with that from the cache of March 31st. The individual files are now between 1.7 and 2.2 MB in size. So once again significantly larger than its predecessors . As always, pay attention to the date.

But it's smart check if there is changes for your particular cpu. No changes = Then "No" need for it

 

Why does my system run very slow? www.avira.com/en/support
We could reproduce the described behavior.
This is occurring because of a current Windows Update.

Our development is working on a solution.

Uninstall Windows 10 Update

1. Open the Windows start menu.
2. Select Settings.
3. Klick Updates & Security.
4. Select View update history → Uninstall updates.
5. Search for the update KB4493509 and klick on it.
6. Then select Uninstall and confirm the next dialog, to uninstall the update.

Uninstall Windows 7 Updates

1. Open the Windows Start menu.
2. Select Control Panel.
3. Klick Windows Update.
4. Select Show Update History → Installed Updates.
5. Search for the Updates KB4493472 and KB4493448 and klick them.
6. Select Uninstall and confirm the following dialog, to remove the updates.

A fix will be delivered automatically as soon as possible with the next product update.

Affected products

• Avira Free Security Suite [Windows]
• Avira Prime [Windows]
• Avira Free Antivirus [Windows]
• Avira Antivirus Pro [Windows]

• Created : Thursday, April 11, 2019
• Last updated: Thursday, April 11, 2019

Not the first time. And I think the same is also for Avast. The collaboration with Micro$oft and some AV companies doesn't look good. Almost as they they hate each other

 

Sandybridge has gotten a new microcode with that update: from 2D to 2E, but for some reason my laptop is still on 2D even though I clicked the Update button and I'm on the latest OS build.

Ha, you star! I was about to post absolute confirmation that it is indeed Avira causing the incompatibility - I uninstalled Avira on my laptop & it's working fine with KB4493509. I'll leave Avira on my desktop with KB4493509 uninstalled, and then just wait for Avira to update - I think they'll be speedy!

 

You never know what yo'll get from Redmond HQ. Nothing new there, bruh.

Or just jump over to Eset There will come new updates bruh And AVAST ain't a better option. They have more than enough with pushing Malware in CCLEANER. Why bother have a working AV?

 

What's good about Eset? They don't do a free version though. I'd rather have a free option.

 

Or just jump on Win Defender as I said in one of my previous post. And You have still Kaspersky Free as an options. I expect know you don't work in the Government You aren't *forced* to use AV from one of the two big A

 

Last time I looked, Win Defender used more CPU resources than Avira and wasn't as effective either. Avira are light on system resources and have a high protection score: https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/windows-10/february-2019/
(At that link you can look at other month's performance statistics too). It's been very consistent in it's performance over the years, I'm gonna stay with it for now.

 

Windows 10 cumulative updates reportedly causing system slowdowns

 

not anymore as most antivirus vendors have released new software updates recently that work with the latest Win10 cumulative updates and do not cause any slowdowns

Windows 10 Cumulative Update KB4493509 Antivirus Issue Fixed

 

Yeah I know duhh, my post was on Monday!

 

If anyone experiences random glitching (in my case audio stutter and severe fps drops for about 0.5 second at a time), you may want to try to reset the windows power schemes... my high performance mode got bugged causing the cpu to randomly drop to 800MHz on one or more cores. What a delight windows 10 can be. Giving me a heart attack that my precious 8700k or my awesome new gigabyte mb could be dying. Bah. Damn windows. I just got the 1809 2 weeks ago and already have issues. Not sure how the power scheme got bugged but oh well. It's been running problem-free for a few hours now, didn't even need to reboot.

 

WD engine is constantly updated, you might wanna check that out. WD is very good these days. After a full scan CPU resources are almost <5%. Kaspersky security cloud is very good too. I avoid Avast though Avira seems good enough.

 

yeah use Windows Defender if you don't care about your PC's Performance!



I use Avast Antivirus Pro with a custom install, superb file scanner, 0 false positives, and allows me to disable the crap that I don't need like the Web-shield, software updater, etc.

See: Ultra Male's recommended method to install Avast Antivirus

 

Avast is malware. I rather run without AV if this junk company was the only options.

 

You don't know what you're missing in terms of performance. Did you even read the guide of how to install it above?

If you follow that guide, you can install it minus the nasty stuff and enjoy a top notch AV that's super light and doesn't interfere with your VPN like NOD32 does.

 

I don’t support companies which act like malware. On top feed them with money. No thanks.

 

Was this an attempt on irony? You know me better than this

 

you know I like to play games with you

 

Did you update avast UltraMale ? If i update to the latest version, i got this "aswEngSrv" in task manager now, and it double the process as before...

 

Mmmm not sure how avast pro is, but I used the free one for a while and gave up on it. It clearly used a bunch of more resources than defender does atm (with win 8, 8.1 and early windows 10 yeah - defender was crap and a resource hogger, in my experience that is no longer true so I dropped avast in defender's favor). I just prefer to use something I don't have to pay for which does not bother me when running ^^ The free avast tended to be.... present. With defender you never know it's there, it's like a ninja Moreover, I already paid for my windows hence I don't see the need to pay for more stuff if not needed.

 

But defender only works if you've paid for Windows 10!

 

Yeah, I always thought Microsoft's solution was the heaviest, whenever I looked into it previously, so that goes along with that thinking. I think the y-axis scale on that graph is a bit exaggerated though - I think they're 'pulling tricks' in the data analysis to magnify the differences - for instance opening say a Word Document when real time scanning is enabled is not gonna take 13 times longer with Microsoft Defender as doing the same process with ESET enabled, which is kind of what that graph is inferring. The performance differences aren't that large between the companies.

More to the point, it probably takes just a number of milliseconds to scan a Word Document with real time scanning as it's being opened, so any improvement between the two companies mentioned in the previous paragraph might be the difference between say 10ms and 130ms. I suppose it could make a significant difference when lots of files are being accessed in quick succession, but I think that graph is a bit of an exaggeration when it comes to real world experience between all of them. However, I would still choose an antivirus program that was light on resources & high on protection, just to be optimised. On Avira, I've seen other security websites score performance higher than what that graph suggests versus the other companies there - different testing different results it seems.

 

MS Office loading time is slow because Windows Exploit aka EMET is adding hooks to maximize security in favor of performance. Using 3rd party AVs disables that partially. You can disable exploit protect for Word using Defender and see if it works faster or not! Those security hooks come with massive performance hit. Also, you can use Configure Defender by AndyFul to make WD act as default deny mode for paranoid security.

 

The performance difference is measured overall in points, it doesn't mean that ESET or Avast are faster than Windows Defender by so many seconds. It's an overall performance results that they've concluded from running multiple tests.

I am a member of the Wilders Security Forum and me and many enthusiasts there know how much Windows Defender comes, it is the heaviest AntiVirus in the world no matter how much one would like to make it sound acceptable because they are too cheap to pay for a proper AntiVirus.

It is so heavy to the point that even loading icons in my Software folder which contains a lot of sub-folders each with its own unique icon happens in slow motion. I would literally see the icons load one after the other in slow motion despite me having a super fast computer and all my drives are SSDs.

The issue with Windows Defender is not only is its scanner very heavy, but it has no whitelisting technology like ESET's NOD32 so it would re-scan the same files again and again every time you try to access them.

With ESET's NOD32 or Avas for example, it will never scan a file again provided the file hash (like a file fingerprint) hasn't changed. That's why when you install NOD32 or Avast or any AV that has a whitelisting feature, you wanna run a full system scan once as that will tremendously improve your computer's performance since those files that were scanned before will not be scanned and the AntiVirus now just sits like a security guard for your computer protecting you from bad websites, downloads, and new files.

At the end of the day, use what you wish, but the point I am trying to make is why? we buy expensive computers to enjoy them to their max potential! Even if you don't wanna pay, Panda Antivirus Cloud is much lighter than Windows Defender for example, so is Avast Free Antivirus (with a custom install offcourse), even Bitdefender is much lighter. So why use Windows Defender? That's for n00bs who don't know any better and can't be bothered to install an AV on their own (no pun intended)