I hear you... But Two times a year with this mess is all too much.
Lab rats, Windows 10 and the importance of being last computerworld | Oct 9, 2018
The file-deletion flaw that plagued last week's rollout of the Windows 10 October 2018 Update shows how Microsoft uses consumers to test out the OS so its important customers – businesses – are protected.
Lab rats = guinea pig
Key to Windows 10: consumers as lab rats
One of the foundational characteristics of Windows 10 is Microsoft's two-tier classification of customers. The lower tier includes those who operate Windows 10 Home, the upper tier, all others. (One could argue that there are, in fact, three kinds of Windows 10 users, because those running Windows 10 Pro occupy the middle ground between Home's folk and the top-of-the-heap Windows 10 Enterprise customers.)
Because Microsoft requires Windows 10 Home users to install and use each feature upgrade, it ensures that a large group "tests" every build. There's no straight-forward way to, say, skip a spring upgrade - 1803, perhaps - between two fall upgrades (1709 and 1809), so there will never be a smaller-than-average pool of testers for any one refresh.
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Patch Tuesday: The good, the bad, the ugly and the hopeless
Posted on October 9th, 2018 at 12:47 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge
Patch Tuesday patches are rolling out right now and there’s a bunch of them.
I’m perplexed by the first cumulative update for Win10 version 1809, KB 4464330:
Addresses an issue affecting group policy expiration where an incorrect timing calculation may prematurely remove profiles on devices subject to the “Delete user profiles older than a specified number of day.”
There’s no indication if that fixes all of the disappearing Documents, Photos, etc., files that some encountered. Although it may well explain the “Delete user profiles” GPO problem. If it makes any difference, there’s been no change in the “Known issues” section of the original Win10 1809 release, KB 4464619. If Microsoft fixed the file deletion problem, they didn’t change the KB article to reflect the fix.
There’s also no indication if this means the forced upgrades from 1803 to 1809 are poised to begin.
Windows 10 version 1809 : 19 vulnerabilities of which 3 are critical and 16 are important.
We also got a Servicing Stack Update for Win10 1809, KB 4465477. If you’re manually installing the cumulative update for 1809 (sanity alert), be sure to get the SSU installed first![]()
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Windows 10 October 2018 Update Re-Release Begins with Insiders (Cumulative Update Is Also Out)
Micro$h4ft has started the process of re-releasing Windows 10 October 2018 Update after the initial release was put to a stop due to a data deletion bug. Windows 10 1809 Build 17763.17 (KB4467228) is now available to Windows Insiders in the Slow and Release Preview rings. The company assured that it will take a slow and steady approach, testing the latest build in the Insider community before making it available to the general public.
In a blog post explaining the bug, Micro$h4ft said claims that the only a few users experienced data loss – “one one-hundredth of one percent of version 1809 installs.” It added that the company has now fully investigated all reports of data loss and has identified and fixed all known issues in the update, and conducted internal validation. John Cable, Director of Program Management, Windows Servicing and Delivery, writes ( emphasis is ours)...
Prior to re-releasing the October 2018 Update our engineering investigation determined that a very small number of users lost files during the October 2018 Update. This occurred if Known Folder Redirection (KFR) had been previously enabled, but files remain in the original “old” folder location vs being moved to the new, redirected location. KFR is the process of redirecting the known folders of Windows including Desktop, Documents, Pictures, Screenshots, Videos, Camera Roll, etc. from the default folder location, c:\users\username\<folder name>, to a new folder location. In previous feedback from the Windows 10 April 2018 Update, users with KFR reported an extra, empty copy of Known Folders on their device. Based on feedback from users, we introduced code in the October 2018 Update to remove these empty, duplicate known folders. That change, combined with another change to the update construction sequence, resulted in the deletion of the original “old” folder locations and their content, leaving only the new “active” folder intact.
Micro$hity added that all the issues have now been resolved and the rollout process for the public will be resumed after the feedback is received from the Slow and Release Preview rings.Last edited: Oct 9, 2018Vasudev and Spartan@HIDevolution like this. -
All identical BIOS settings... all unnecessary services disabled. You decide...
REALLY??? You thought I installed it? LOL!! What's the point???
If you really believe the Redmond Retards are FINALLY going to fix this worthless piece of crap, I have some ocean beach property on the east side of Phoenix that I can sell you super cheap.
Edit: And, if your goal is to drive that final nail in your CPU's performance coffin, go ahead and install a full-bloat GeFarts driver with telemetry and GeFarts Experience cancer. That will add about a second or so to your wPrime 32M elapsed time. Go ahead... try it.
Once you're done puking, go ahead and DDU that crap and install a @j95 driver mod to exorcise the Green Goblin's life-sucking digital venereal disease from your PC. As a courtesy, here is a link to facilitate the exorcism.
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Regarding Updates from on trash to the next... See the link in the mess! Updates over clean install is idiocy. You never know what will hit you if you go the Redmond Morons route.
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Edit. More ways to force people on Win Update...
Microsoft moves printer drivers to Windows Update
by Martin Brinkmann Winaero.net October 07, 2018
Windows 10 administrators and users who connect printers or scanners to devices running the operating system may have noticed a change in how printer drivers are installed on the devices. Windows installation...
In other words: Default drivers for printers and scanners will only be installed if the machine is connected to Windows Update. While that is the case for most PCs running Windows 10, it may pose issues for admins who maintain PCs and devices that are offline or on which Windows Update is blocked.Last edited: Oct 10, 2018 -
Is the brightness bug still present with latest cumulative update?
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Apparently the file deletion problem had to do with Microsoft botching the code for deleting the old library directories when KFR was used to remap them to a new location. It wasn't checking to see if there was any data in the directories and just nuked them off the drive. Worst part is that the bug was reported when 1809 was still in the testing phase, but never fixed.
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Need link windows 10 pro x64 both consumer and bussines edition. Previously i have vl
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So, how do you manage default docs,pictures and video folders? I used redirection from C to D.Mr. Fox likes this. -
As for the second question, I manually save stuff where I want it, on a drive not managed by Windows. For documents I create, I just use "Save As" and point it where I want it. Stuff I download prompts me for the location, and I have a specific non-library folder for just about every category of file. If I accidentally forget, or a glitch somehow chooses the location without asking me, then I drag and drop it where I want it. I have been doing it this way for so long it's generally automatic by force of habit, so I don't generally have to even deliberately think about doing it. And, it's everything... images, documents, music, etc.Last edited: Oct 11, 2018Beemo, Spartan@HIDevolution, Papusan and 1 other person like this. -
And the Windows + Intel "MESS" continue
Intel releases new graphics driver with old bug
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Fixes for the Micro$h4ft's guinea pigs...
Fix No Audio Issue in Windows 10 version 1809
In addition to the user profile removal and broken notification issues, Windows 10 version 1809 leaves certain users without sounds. Due to a driver issue, the operating system can't play audio. Thankfully, it is easy to fix this issue.
Fix Action Center Doesn’t Show Notifications in Windows 10 version 1809
The Action Center feature in Windows 10 might be familiar to Windows Phone users. It stores notifications about all important events like updates, maintenance and security warnings in a single place. A number of users reported that after upgrading to Windows 10 "October 2018 Update", version 1809, they do not have notifications in the Action Center. Here is a quick fix.
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Btw...
Can you trust View Update History in Windows 10 Settings?
Since the start of Windows 10, Microsoft has started revamping the UI step by step. This resulted in the availability of same features at two places. Say, for example, you can uninstall applications from the new Settings Page, and also…
What I understand from the list is the API being used in the new Settings app seems to be slow or sometimes not working compared to the previous code.
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Thank you for debloated version. Is there any way that I can reinstall Microsoft edge? I tried below command in powershell but nothing happened
Get-AppXPackage -Name Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge | ForEach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register “$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml”} -
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I wish they carried through dark theme with everything. Some menus are still white. Honestly, I am scared for the future of Microsoft in the pc space. I think they do not care about their customers buying notebooks. Only those in enterprise. I am seriously thinking about trying Mac again for the FOURTH TIME!
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No, it's not that. it's the fact they don't put their everything into anything on the consumer side. Not having a full dark theme is the effect of the cause. Releasing it half assed shows lack of caring about a certian group of users. Just like the canning of various other consumer products and features.
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They are losing "regular" consumers like myself in droves to macbook and chromeOS because people are seeing this lack of caring. walk through any airport now. Most of the regular users not in business suits are running apple notebooks. Why? becacuse apple is giving consumers things they use and want in software. MS is only worried about the cloud and making money off the cloud. It shows in their lack of guttural fortitude to release anything consumer based that the business user may not want.
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Vasudev, I don't care about tweaking anything anymore. I just want to sit down at my computer, do Everything I want to do, and have all my devices work in conjunction with each other. Windows was slowly getting there, but it's not getting any better since the original "creators update". At least with mac, there is good creativity apps/software (but I will miss touchscreen for that), my iPhone and ipad work seamlessly with it, and when apple does something with the UI like dark theme, they DO IT. They don't **** around and do a half assed version of it like the windows "design team".
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With RS7 the UI you want will be there along with Emoji.kojack likes this. -
when is that? Oh, btw, you can tweak your UI in MacOS now on Mojave. You can change colors, theme, etc. Just as you can on windows.
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Did anybody try to create a Windows To Go, either with Enterprise or some other way? It simply crashes during the first boot. No problem with 1803 installing it on an external USB drive. They must have changed something like adding a service with is not compatible with external drives.
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I'm sure OS X is designed just to be used and cannot be tweaked. I tried OS X yosemite on Mac Mini w/ HDD and 4GB RAM. It was a lag monster than Windows Vista. Took a long time to start-up.kojack likes this. -
I agree with Yosemite. I did the same thing, mini, 8gb of ram and it was painful to use. I am still not 100% convinced to move. I have been using my sons MBA a bit. I love the fact that I have imessage on the device, etc....but DAMN OSX is painful to use. I am not there yet. BUTTTTTTT if MS keeps going down the road they are going, My next device will be a macbook pro and I will live with MacOS's quirks to have a good OS.
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On topic, is Winaero tweaker or similar safe to use on RS5? Why I'm asking because my sister's PC was upgraded to RS5.
I'm trying System Ninja w/ reg cleaner plugin to replace CCleaner 5.43(never updated).
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...a sidenote, as if vandalising Windows is not enough, MS is now applying it's blunder expertise onto Android as well :O)
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Just installed KB4464455 which bumps the Build to 17763.104
1) Rename whatever update you are about to install to update.cab
2) Create a folder in the root of C:\ and name that folder Update
3) Cut/Paste that update.cab into the Update folder in the root of C:\
4) Click on the Start Menu
5) Navigate to All Programs > Windows System > then right click on Command Prompt and choose Run as Administrator
6) Copy/paste the below command into the command prompt window
dism /online /add-package /packagepath:C:\update\update.cab
7) After the update has been installed, reboot your computer then delete the folder you created earlier in the root of C:\ called update
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How can they determine what I myself want put in my bios firmware?
And why would they change/screw up MY keyboard layout? Now for example is ? replaced with -. + A Hell lot other changes. WTF... Every single of the MicroShaft engineers must go on something. At least not water and food. Must be something much much stronger than alcohol!
Ohwell. I wont try this trash anymore. And I won\t upgrade to this piece of utter JUNK afterwards. And how bad will this filthy OS be after they throw out this a second time to the whole masses? GOD bless them.
For the records... Scores is atleast not changed. Amazing!
Stock.
48X
Edit. Keyboard layout back again!!!???--__@@@ $h!Ty. I... for this junk. Should be ZERO.
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Can we start a petition to move Nadulla from CEO to head of cloud services, and get someone with balls, vision and drive at the helm? The bald bean counter is ruining Microsoft.
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Another reported file wiping problem with Win10 1809
Posted on October 20th, 2018 at 07:08 woody Comment on the AskWoody Lounge
From ToppestOfDogs on Reddit:
Ever since the October [Win10 1809] update, the overwrite confirmation is missing from zip files
I noticed that whenever I move something out of a zip, the “do you want to replace these files” dialogue never shows up, it just does it.
I’ve reinstalled windows and it still does it, it’s only on the October update. Pretty nasty bug since you can accidentally overwrite a file and have no way of getting it back
And from Wazhai, same thread, also on AskWoody:
This seems to be a very serious and widespread problem which could lead to user data loss. This is another thread about it. A reply would be very much appreciated.
The issue is that in 1809, overwriting files by extracting from an archive using File Explorer doesn’t result in an overwrite prompt dialogue and also doesn’t replace any files at all; it just fails silently. There are also some reports that it did overwrite items, but did so silently without asking.
From microl, also in Reddit:
When dragging newer files (with same name as in the destination folder) from a compressed folder to a regular folder it looks like the file copy happens, you can see the transfer progress, but when you check after no files have been updated. Anybody else have this?
It’s not clear if the reports are from the latest-latest version of 1809. Jenmsft has been copied on the Reddit posts. Remains to be seen if this new data-eating bug in 1809 will be fixed before it ships.
Windows 10 version 1809 users should consider using a third-party ZIP application in the meantime for all copying and unzipping operations.Last edited: Oct 20, 2018
Windows 10 Redstone 5
Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Sep 25, 2018.