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    Windows 10 Redstone 5

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Sep 25, 2018.

  1. Vasudev

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    I got a hint earlier. They are taking out much needed BSODs by masking errors via software. BadRAM,badHDD etc are really ignored just to make it look stable.
    I usually disable Extract All in context menu using winaero and use 7-zip.
     
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    @Mr. Fox @Papusan

    I am beyond speechless...

    Windows 10 version 1809 plagued by another data loss issue

     
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    Its completely unacceptable on Public release of Windows 10 v1809. If it was Insider release its okay. That's the reason I didn't insall Insider release of W10. I'm really scared...
     
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    Remember the Morons had to throw it out in hurry due they published/relased their other well known trash... Their new ThrottlePro books.
     
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    We should all be scared. Windows 10 is digital cancer. Anyone with a lick of common sense would be scared. We live in scary times, and Micro$lop is probably the biggest contributor to it. I am more scared of their idiocy than I am any kind of malware circulating on the interwebs. (Technically, I think they are the father of all malware, and they have been since the release of Windows 8.) Stupid people with a self-serving agenda and scatterbrained ideas are really dangerous to the rest of us. It takes icky-ness to the next level when you combine stupid with evil, and they are the paradigm of what that looks like. They are retarded terrorists with a sweet mouth and wearing white robes, pretending to be our friends so they can molest us in our sleep. Predictable, since they have losers in executive leadership that aspire to be more similar to Apple rather than clinging to the differences that distinguished them as being superior to begin with. The closer they get to that, the less lovable they become. I have zero respect for them.
     
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    You know dude, sometimes I think let me buy a System76 laptop as they are all Clevo's running Linux but they have their own drivers team which makes everything work on Linux then have it shipped to HIDevolution for delidding and sent back to me, that way I can kiss Windows 10 goodbye forever
     
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    You could buy Clevos from HID w/ Prema BIOS and install Pop OS or Ubuntu LTS to get similar results
     
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    Just buy a $300 (or less ) Chromebook to use down at the local cafe, and save the rest of the money for a monster desktop. Expensive "gaming" laptops are a waste of money. Something always sucks about them in one or more ways, but the premium they charge for them suggests the bar should be set much higher than it ever is.

    Or, as Brother @Vasudev suggested, set up Linux yourself. It is not difficult. The only issue I have with Linux is the stuff I want to do and can't. The stuff I can do is as good or better than Windoze. If you build a monster desktop and run Windows on that, then you won't have to care about Linux limitations on the notebook since you no longer have a need for those things on the notebook.

    When I downgraded my ZBook to Windows 7 (it shipped with W10 1803) I came very close to installing Mint on it instead. I only use it for web surfing and email, and a few other modest tasks once in a while.

    I have had no issues with Linux drivers on my Clevos. Pretty simple and everything worked without any fuss. The hardest part was GeFarts drivers, but that was also pretty simple. I just had to Google how to install the proprietary drivers instead of the default trash driver.
     
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    Only one problem... What with overclocking? And what with benchmarks who work with Linux? No overclocking means you can should just *buy the cheapest trash* you can get. $200 is a nice limit spend on laptops. Or just skip computers and add it for your next phone purchase.
     
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    Yes... exactly. I totally agree with this. Linux is basically worthless for overclocking and benching. Not because it isn't equally capable, (perhaps even more capable,) but entirely due to the fact there is more or less nothing useful available for it.

    If you are going to give up overclocking to avoid Windows, there is no point in spending a lot of money for something to use for web, email, Skype and other mundane tasks. If you've got a $150 smartphone, you're already set up for that and there is no Windoze cancer on it unless you are using an obsolete Windoze phone.
     
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    The one thing about Linux that you can never stop tweaking the OS, and that takes up all of your time :D
     
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    It is something that can easily fall into a technical "enthusiast" category because of that. It's not super difficult, but it does require knowledge and patience. It's not a click and go experience that requires no thought, knowledge, skill or research like iOS/Mac OS X or the worthless trash OS the monkeys at Micro$lop have caused Windoze OS X to become.
     
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    If only nvidia driver was open source.... Damn, I always switch to Intel before kernel updates.
     
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    @Papusan

    Now you can toggle Game Mode On/Off again after it as on by default all the time in Redstone 3

    [​IMG]
     
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    There is no limit to the magnitude of their suckiness and incompetence, and their control freak Nazi approach to things has no boundaries.
     
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    Maybe they by themselves “finally” understood their own incompetence? I’m shocked. Such settings should “always” be up to the users determine what they themselves want.
     
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    Lol, never even used anything in the windows gaming section until last week because it could actually hurt performance. I just kept everything i could turned off. But alas I caved for the easy screen capture functionality. What exactly does the new toggle turn off anyway?
     
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    This is actually the decision me and lots of friends made. After what happened to the gaming laptops scene, the switch to desktops is sadly the only choice some people have left.
     
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    I was just sharing my story with another fellow that is torn about what to do. Sad times we live in. A whole lot of it caused by Micro$loth, either directly or indirectly.
     
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    Another confirmation regarding the .zip archive fiasco on the pulled update - https://www.theinquirer.net/inquire...-windows-10-october-update-eats-zip-files-too

    I've been griping about this for some time - Microsoft doesn't seem to learn from their past mistakes. Remember the disaster of trying to plaster Windows 8.x UI with a phone experience? Redmond, it is a computer operating system - the UI and overall experience should behave like a computer, not a flipping phone.

    And not having learned from that, they try to move updates to behave more like mobile apps / web sites where there's a un-announced release every 2 weeks, and just slip them in every day. Well, guess what? There was a perfectly fine (or at least very well understood) update model with Service Packs and updates. We all could depend on them and distribute them on our own. But then someone decided to change that in Windows 10, and force updates on their end users. There was the Epic-fail with the *forced* upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10. And now the problems reported in this pulled update.

    Time for Microsoft to put some adults back in charge of Windows, and learn from past mistakes. Having made the switch to Linux almost 12 months ago I am minimally impacted, so I guess all I can really say is that it is sad to see the decline, but glad it doesn't affect me.
     
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    Yeah no.

    It disables the game mode, but all the services are still running, don't make that mistake (not accusing you or anyone).

    If you'd like to get rid of all the cr** that still is alive, use the tools necessary or regedit them away.
     
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    I am exactly in the same situation. Just finished almost a decade of continuous travelling and now have the ability to just relax and make the jump back to desktops. No need to compromise anymore, it is getting on my nerves.

    Maybe the new emojis in W10 would help me relax. /Facepalm
     
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    Amen to all of that. Couldn't agree more with you on this stuff. I really hope they get decimated by class action lawsuits. Maybe then they will actually pull their heads out, straighten up and fly right. Big maybe though... not sure they have the ability to think rationally about anything at this point based on their post-Windows 7 track record.
     
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    I'm seriously debating going back to Windows 7 as my daily driver.
     
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    @Mr. Fox I tried W7 in a VM and I don't know why W7 stutters or cause slowdowns when I have multiple instances of control panel?
    Memory,Cpu usage and everything else W7 kills W10 in plain sight. It boots in just 5 secs on NVMe drive, uses 200MB less RAM than W10, CPU usage is 0% on fresh install unlike 50-80% on W10.
     
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    • OS Build 17134.376

      Improvements and fixes
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      This update includes quality improvements. No new operating system features are being introduced in this update. Key changes include:
      • Addresses an issue that sometimes prevents documents from appearing in the Microsoft Edge DevTools debugger.
      • Addresses an issue that sometimes prevents Microsoft Edge extension scripts from appearing in Microsoft Edge DevTools.
      • Addresses the redenomination of local currency that the Central Bank of Venezuela implemented to enter the Bolivar Soberano into circulation.
      • Addresses additional issues with updated time zone information.
      • Addresses an issue that causes sysprep /generalize to fail in audit mode because of a race condition while deleting certain registry keys.
      • Addresses an issue with legacy Bluetooth® Basic Rate (BR) device inbound pairing.
      • Addresses an issue that causes the audio service to stop working or become unresponsive while using call control, controlling volume, and streaming music to Bluetooth audio devices. Error messages that appear include:
        • Exception error 0x8000000e in btagservice.dll.
        • Exception error 0xc0000005 or 0xc0000409 in bthavctpsvc.dll.
        • Stop 0xD1 BSOD error in btha2dp.sys.
      • Addresses an issue that causes the OS to stop working when a Bluetooth device is accidently removed.
      • Addresses an issue that causes the Event Log service to stop responding and degrades reliability in various areas of the operating system until you restart. This occurs when the Event Log is full and you selected Do not overwrite events (Clear logs manually) in Log Properties–System > When maximum event log size is reached:.
      • Addresses an issue to support Microsoft Office events in the “Limit Enhanced” Group Policy setting list.
      • Addresses an issue that makes it impossible to disable TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1 when the Federal Information Processing Standard (FIPS) mode is enabled.
      • Addresses an issue in which applications on systems with more than 4 GB of memory receive Access Denied error code “0x5” when calling CreateProcessWithLogonW().
      • Addresses an issue in which the AccountName in the Event Log entry for the Microsoft-Windows-Kerberos-Key-Distribution-Center source and Event ID 7 sometimes appears corrupted.
      • Addresses an issue in which applications have handle leaks when using client authentication certificates with the TLS protocol. This issue occurs when the FreeCredentialsHandle call occurs before the DeleteSecurityContext call in the application code.
      • Addresses an issue that might cause TCP connections opened for an application running on Windows Container to fail sporadically. This occurs when the container runs on a Network Address Translation (NAT) Network provided by Windows Network Address Translation (WinNAT). A SYN timeout occurs after reaching the maximum SYN Retransmit count.
      • Addresses an issue with a warning message that appears when using Microsoft Edge to print some PDFs.
      • Addresses an issue that causes the printing of PDF files from SharePoint Online to fail with the error, “Couldn't open PDF”.
      • Addresses an issue that can cause App-V packages to fail because of a missing file or DLL error.
      • Addresses an issue that may cause container snapshot restoration to fail because of a missing file error.
      • Addresses an issue that prevents the deletion of Immediate Tasks when their deletion timer occurs, such as when you configure Group Policy preferences for Immediate Task actions.
      • Addresses an issue that causes Scheduled Tasks to remain in a queue and not execute until the first user logs on to a Windows 10, version 1803 device. Some affected scenarios include:
        • Scheduled Tasks that are defined in the last phase of setup won’t execute.
        • “Auto-enroll” computer certificates and “root and intermediate” certificates are missing.
      • Addresses an issue that prevented the launch of Windows Defender Application Guard (WDAG) on Windows 10N (Europe) devices after servicing.
      • Addresses an issue that incorrectly implies that user policies have not been applied after configuring a user rights Group Policy setting. Reporting tools, such as RSOP.MSC or Gpresult.exe /h, do not show the user rights policies or display a red “X” instead.

      • Addresses an issue in which connection group folders are not properly merged.

      • Addresses an issue in which Scheduled Tasks configured to run on a specific day of the week don't execute at the expected time.

      • Addresses an issue that prevents the clock and date flyout from appearing when the region format is Spanish (Spain) and the sorting method is Traditional.

      • Addresses an issue in which the System.Security.Cryptography.Algorithms reference was not correctly loaded on .NET Framework 4.7.1 after the July 10, 2018 and August 14, 2018 patches.
      • Addresses an issue that may cause the system to stop working during the shutdown of some Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) apps because of TaskCanceledException. Apps that are vulnerable to this issue perform work involving weak events or data binding after the Application.Run() function returns values.
      • Addresses a race condition in temporary files and some antivirus scanners that causes .NET Framework applications to stop working. The error message is, "The process cannot access the file <name of temp file>".
      • Updates the .NET Framework's support for the formatting of Japanese dates for the first year in the eras. When the format pattern is “y年”, the year format will use the symbol 元 and not use year number 1. Additionally, the .NET Framework will support dates that include 元. For more information, see KB4469068.
      • Updates Venezuela currency information. This will affect the culture of “es-VE” as follows:
        • The currency symbol is “Bs.S”.
        • The English currency name is “Bolívar Soberano”.
        • The local currency name is “bolívar soberano”.
        • The International Currency Code is “VES”.
      • Addresses an issue that may cause an application that has a child window to stop processing mouse inputs. This issue occurs when a precision touchpad triggers a WM_MOUSEWHEEL event.
      • Addresses an issue that may cause some applications to stop working after unplugging a tablet.
      • Addresses an issue in which application titles that were unexpectedly long were not predictably displayed using ellipses (…). In some cases, the text truncations that appear may confuse users.
      • Addresses an issue that causes the Windows 8.1 app to stop working when it calls the ProjectionManager.StartProjectingAsync API. The error code is 0x80070057.
      • Addresses an issue with Windows Text Input Framework. A layout request may cause some application text input elements to stop responding.

      • Addresses an issue in which users cannot enter East Asian text when prompted to create password hints during the upgrade process.

      • Addresses a multi-monitor issue that may incorrectly render an application that is in full-screen mode after changing the display mode.

      • Addresses an issue with leaks of window-related Graphics Device Interface (GDI) objects during window destruction.

      • Addresses an issue that occurs when typing in a text box of a Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) application using the on-screen keyboard. If you select one of the predictive text suggestions, that word appears to be entered, but will disappear when you select a different control.

      • Addresses an issue that prevents applications from displaying a pop-up window or dialog box when the applications are in full-screen mode. For example, in a full-screen game, attempting to alter settings such as Multisampling Antialiasing (MSAA) will fail because the confirmation dialog does not appear. The dialog is hidden behind the application.

      • Addresses an issue that causes navigation across eras to stop working in the Japanese Calendar view. For more information, see KB4469068.

      • Addresses an issue related to the date format for the Japanese era calendar. For more information, see KB4469068.

      • Addresses an issue that causes the GetCalendarInfo function to return a wrong value for the Japanese era. For more information, see KB4469068.
      If you installed earlier updates, only the new fixes contained in this package will be downloaded and installed on your device.

    • Lots and lots and lots of individually identified bug fixes.

      No problems reported so far, but it’s only been a few minutes…

      You gotta wonder how many of these bugs appeared as the dev team was looking at 1809. I bet we see a huge cumulative update for 1809 shortly. @Ultra Male :eek:

      If you intend to manually install this beast, remember: SSU before LCU except after C or when it sounds like an A. Why? Because the Win10 updater ain’t smart enough to update itself.
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    Wow! Did you see how many bugs they fixed? And this is an OS build that's been live for more than 6 months! This is pathetic man! Micro$haft quality control = non existent!

    @Mr. Fox
     
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    They build the RS5 on this mess, bruh :cool: The base for released coming RS5!
     
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    @Papusan I just updated to build 345 yesterday.
     
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    Maybe wait a week or until over the weekend before you update to their latest build (look after info). And I don’t talk abut RS5.
     
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    @Mr. Fox

    From MDL, this is teh funneh

    [​IMG]
     
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    I'm waiting for an update that'll take the electricity out causing a blackout for Europe after W10 update.
     
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    Windows 10’s October 2018 Update Is Probably Delayed Until November (And Here’s Why) Howtogeek.com | OCTOBER 24, 2018

    After all the bad press, we can’t imagine Microsoft will want to re-release the October 2018 Update with another bug that can potentially lead to data loss. This one doesn’t seem quite as bad as automatically deleting entire folders during the upgrade process, but it’s still not great. And, if Microsoft starts rolling out the update with this bug, it’s sure to bite some people. That means Microsoft has to wait until November:D Why not wait until April next year?:rolleyes: Or the fall 2019? @Ultra Male :vbthumbsup:
     
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    Yes ! April 1st, & will be renamed Joke 5
     
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    @Papusan ,

    There are some organizations that upgrade systems during planned organizational downtime, where this downtime (equipment maintenance window) can happen once or twice a year. End of December or June/July months. Some schools fit here as do some manufacturing companies.

    Let's analyze what a missed Fall update might look like to some maintenance windows:

    If they're on a 12 month refresh (essentially Service Pack 1 status), and they plan to update in summer next year, without a fall update, they'd have 1) to stay on what they have which might not be receiving updates in 6 months or at all, 2) to upgrade to the previous year spring update but potentially have not enough security updates to last them another 12 months and have to do an unplanned OS upgrade in the fall, 3) to upgrade to the latest and greatest spring update, which might be unproven.

    If they're on a 18 month refresh and planned to upgrade this fall, without a fall upgrade, they might have to reschedule their next upgrade sooner than 18 months.

    All of this would be moot if Microsoft supported Windows 10 releases (except for LTSB or LTSC) for longer than 18 months. 3-4 years would be plenty as someone else mentioned, which matches a 3 year machine replacement cycle.

    If these orgs provide Microsoft (or Fedora community also fits here) any substantial revenue, Microsoft would be wise to release something they can use as well as MSFT keeping their commitment to the release schedule.

    To be clear, I'm not defending why an organization would do this or to defend that it's a good idea only that I've seen some do this.
     
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    And came up with the "SUCKERS" I mean insiders program. It did not work, other than the suckers are testers for Microsoft for free. SUCKERS! I would never enroll in that. I get paid when I work.
     
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    NOPE. it's what happend what you put a bean counter at the controls. The only YES MAN is Nadella. Bottom line rules to all else. Paying out money for testers when we can " hire " suckers for free and make it seem like they are getting "sneak peaks" at the new OS. Yep. saved millions in payroll. Cut all of the windows mobile side of things. Yep. Only that destroyed any chance of windows pushing further into the consumer base. Put our services on ios and android instead, drives people further away from our platform and using the competition. All great moves. OH, and spending 26 billion on business facebook was another dumbass idea as well.
     
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    Bing Is Pushing Malware When You Search for Chrome
    Howtogeek.com | OCTOBER 26, 2018, 4:33PM EDT


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    You launch Edge on your new PC, search for “download Chrome,” and click the first result headed to “google.com” on Bing. You’re now on a phishing website pushing malware, disguised to look like the Chrome download page.


    Bing already has problems with horrifying search suggestions, so this is yet another problem on the pile. Microsoft really needs to clean Bing up.

    RELATED: Bing Is Suggesting the Worst Things You Can Imagine

    We contacted Microsoft for comment on this article, but we had not yet received a response at publication time.
     
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    If my C: only contains OS, Steam games, and apps that doesn't allow me to change directory, is it okay for me to install the update? I'm getting random reboots on 1803 and I'm wondering if installing 1809 would fix it (someone from the other discussion suggested)
     
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    Micro$haft engineers experimenting with the next Windows build to wreck our taptops:

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    Check using WhoCrashed or Bluescreen view from nirsoft to see what caused the issue?
    v1809 might cause data loss and even more problems.
     
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