Thank for the reply mr fox. I am sure I have pressed fast enough on boot. I have downloaded winaero tweaker and I have seen ALWAYS SHOW BOOT MENU.
Question to be sure I understood you right: If it tick ALWAYS SHOW BOOT MENU it would mean I have enable pressing f8 when booting like the cmd command. is that correct?
Edited: The reason I wanted to be able to do this is because @Papusan advice me to make sure to be able to boot to safe mode in case I will have a problem with my undervolt to be able to delete the .ini in throttle stop. It is my first time using TS and I am a newbie. LOL. I wanted to have a back up plan just in case I mess up. I am currently -0.050 V undervolt. hahahahahhaha
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You're welcome, bro.
What it means is it will show a boot menu always, even if you do not press F8. If memory serves me correctly, it may bring up a short menu with the name(s) of the OS(es) installed and you may or may not have to press F8 at that menu to see the full "Advanced" menu with all options, like Safe Mode and Disable DSE options.
If you add the check mark there it should change the behavior and not skip over your F8 command. If that works, and the box above it is also checked, removing the check mark from the "Always show" box might tweak something enough to make F8 work.
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@Mr. Fox winaero tweaker worked. If I tick Always show when rebooting I get options to go to safe mode. I tried unticking it and kept pressing f8 still doesnt work. I have already disabled hibernation via command prompt. this command- powercfg –h off Got any ideas to make f8 work on bootm
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Also I have confirmed I have done the command and still f8 doesn't work. On booting there is only two options f2 for bios and f12 for boot options. In f12 boot options there is nothing there for safe mode.
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The F2 and F12 are BIOS-only functions only. F2 takes you into the BIOS and F12 brings up BIOS boot options. Those are totally unrelated. Nothing will be showing on your screen to press F8 because that is a Windows OS-only function. So, when you see the screen that shows F2 and F12, start spamming F8 like crazy at that point and keep spamming it, don't stop, until you see a Windows boot menu.
If that still doesn't work, then something else is goofed up. Yes, you did it correctly and the above should work.
If not, check MSCONFIG and be sure you have at least 5 seconds set. Maybe it got set to zero or something weird like that.
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Yep been doing that and nothing happens.. I will only see a blue bar slowing crawling to the end point and once it ends it boots to windows. No boot option for safe mode. Sucks right? LOL got any ideas? just to add info my OS is from @Phoenix windows 10 creators update bloatware free version 5.3 and I have update windows through windows update and it is the latest version now. I also use O&O shut up 10.Mr. Fox likes this.
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Hmm... how weird. Something is not right with your OS. You've done it correctly and it should work. I don't know what the blue bar thing is you are seeing. Never heard of that before. Does it say anything or have text on the screen with the blue bar?Papusan likes this.
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Here's a pic of the blue bar. It will only show up if I press f8. If i press f8 continuously it will slowly load and if I stop it will load fast.
Edited: Checked msconfig and I have 30 seconds set. I recently did a clean install on my cousin's new alienware 15 r3 laptop using the latest version of @Phoenix OS bloatware edition. I will ask him to try it on his laptop and if it works then there is something wrong with my OS and if it doesn't I dont know. hehehe..Papusan likes this. -
@Mr. Fox I have asked my cousin to run this command as well bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy and it was successfully. But it is the same as mine. Pressing f8 doesn't work. We just did a clean install a week ago using @Phoenix windows 10 bloatware edition version 5.9. @Phoenix got any idea on this? Is your laptop using f8 booting to boot menu options?
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That's really weird. It must be something the Redmond Nazis did to screw things up. Sorry you're having to put up with so much crap from these losers.
Install the free version of Macrium Reflect (which is all most any of us need) and choose the Other Tasks > Add Recovery Boot Menu Option. Once you have that you will see a menu that shows Windows 10 and Macrium Reflect Recovery. Press F8 on the Windows 10 menu line before the time runs out and then you will see the Advanced Boot Menu options.
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I haven't the last updates from Redmond HQ, but has the Crematory Edition. And it work with the Boot menu options.
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But a damn smart GP
He doesn't jump on everything
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I am using Windows 10 Creators Abortion and the Legacy Boot Menu works fine for me. That is why I am kind of baffled it is not working for you.
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If M$ has screwed up... Would be nice knowing what Updates screwed up. I have if I remember <correctly> 15063.483 and it works as normal.Spartan@HIDevolution and Mr. Fox like this.
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I have even more special nicknames for their filth, but some are against forum rules and Mrs. Fox would send me to bed with no dinner if I were to speak them.Vasudev, Papusan, Spartan@HIDevolution and 1 other person like this.
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Because pressing any keys during bootup will trigger a simple Disk Check at Hardware level which approximately takes a minute or two.
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But apparently f8 still doesnt work. I am just using macrium reflect so that on boot I have options to boot to safe mode. Just my back up incase I undervolt too much. For safety precautions for a newbie like me.. ^_^ Can your try enabling this command in CMD
bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy
and try if f8 works on the latest windows 10 version. Thanks.
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If you want to get into safe mode use newer somewhat easy method W8 and above.
Press Start Button, Whilst holding Shift Key, press power button and hit restart. You will see Restart notification and you will get a blue screen with advanced options.
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You missed the point bruh. We talk about when you can't load Windoze. The Boot menu log in is easier (spam F8 and enter safe mode) than relying on usb/Windoze disk. + Easy log in without driver signing with F8. Aka from boot.Last edited: Aug 17, 2017
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Maybe it is some kind of proprietary Alienware filth. I have never seen that nonsense before. Very weird and sucks that F8 doesn't work. The Micro$lop way of getting there is for kindergartners and involves way too much rigmarole.
Having to do it that way is simply retarded. The morons from Micro$lop have made almost everything an ugly pain in the ass from W8 forward.Last edited: Aug 17, 2017 -
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All good bruh. What's need to be fixed... The damn moronisme Micro$haft and Dellienware!! Pure trash!!! And worse it will be. SØPPEL as we say in Norway.
I haven't numbers on how many people who don't know how to come into Windoze X safe mode when they can't log into the trashware OS. Both old and younger people. You normally need the Boot menu when you have problems log into the OS. I almost never launch safe mode from Windoze itself. But M$ can't understand this... Too difficult for them. Morons!! They have created a disaster crippled way doing this. And more will come. It's a service you know.Last edited: Aug 17, 2017 -
At first, I cursed MSFT for removing the safe mode. Then I got used to the complex method, hahahaa. Its easier to use msconfig or use DDU to boot into safe mode safely.
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Nothing is easier than having F8 ready on hand always. Click F8 a few times and I have what I want(use of my finger when the machine boot, lol). Not the crippled idiotic way as M$ want it. I haven't much need for use of safe mode, but I want it the way I want
Not the Morons way
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Sometimes the "new way" doesn't work. If you can't boot Windows, the Windows 8+ method is an impediment. You end up wasting time by having to wait and allow the boot process to fail repeatedly before you can get to Safe Mode. Each time if fails to boot is another opportunity for data loss and/or file corruption to occur.
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Yees, exactly.
See.. Some well known tech sites as HTG doesnt even mention the old way fixing M$'s screwed up way to boot into safe mode. Amazing clumsy!!
But PCWORLD managed to put bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy in their guide....
"But what if you can’t get to the login screen? In that case, chances are that Windows is so messed up that it couldn’t boot into Safe Mode anyway. But here’s a trick that might work:" -
New version of AeroGlass v.1.5.5 for Creators Abortion is out. The v.1.5.4 was working fine on my P870, but not at all on the 16L13. The new version works flawlessly on the 16L13. @j95 - maybe it will take care of the glitches you were having. SquareCorners is working good. Crystal clear glass, just how I like it.
Link: http://www.glass8.eu/download
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You can disable the tray icon of ELAN or synaptics touchpad because it consumes more cpu cycles and causes stutters whilst scrolling.
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Why should it feel slower?... He chose the right hardware.
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Polling the sensors won't do much harm but displaying the results onto screen is more stressful. When your stock clocks are 4.2GHz you won't notice it. The issue is more noticeable under 3GHz CPUs like mine (Excluding Turbo Boost).
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I have now been my own Guinea Pig
Updated to latest Windows 10 "Crematory Abortion" aka version
15063.540 And the Legacy Boot Menu and F8 works exactly as before. Nothing wrong with it!!
See my own post above
With Dellienware, Yoo never know
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No, not really. Some of it will have a minor impact on benchmark scores, but I cannot feel any difference with normal use. I have the CPU set to run 4.7GHz 24/7. It even idles at 4.7GHz because I prefer having c-states disabled. I have both of my laptops set to run that way by default.
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Working good... some complained of glitches with Edge browser and multi-display, but I'm not seeing them. I generally only use the laptop display, and NEVER use the crappy Edge crap broswer but checked just to confirm no issues for those that do.
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@Phoenix Could you put this in op? Enable Windows Installer in Safe Mode To Remove Apps
"This trick works in all modern Windows versions including Windows 10, Windows 8 and Windows 7."
"As you may be aware, Windows Installer (MSI) doesn't work by default in Windows Safe Mode. This can be very frustrating because you may have installed an app in normal mode which later prevents the OS from starting. But it can't be removed from safe mode because the Windows Installer service doesn't start in Safe Mode"
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
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10AppsManager is a freeware that will allow you to easily uninstall and reinstall the default, built-in, preinstalled Windows Store apps in Windows 10. While you can always manually install, uninstall or reinstall the Store apps, the process is not so easy for the preinstalled apps. It is easy to uninstall or reinstall 3rd-party apps, but not the default preinstalled apps. What this tool from our TWC stables does, is automate the process and let you carry out the operations in a click.
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/10appsmanager-windows-10
Edit: Only untouched ISO's for the time being...unfortunately
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Try Dism++ and wipe UWP completely w/o leaving behind any traces. I freed 2 GB after uninstalling 3 apps.
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I cannot see any ZIP file to download however, I use a standalone 3rd party firewall. Would it be possible to post the rules to be added please?
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Maybe M$ don't cripple performance with the new Alpha OS for own games
Better with a few games who run normal on the Alpha OS build
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Disable Apps Auto Reopening in Windows 10
"Starting with Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, the operating system is able to automatically reopen apps which were running before shutdown or restart. This behavior is totally unexpected for most Windows users who upgraded to the recent release of the OS. Here is what you can do to change the situation and stop Windows 10 from restoring previously open apps after a reboot."
"From what I read on Neowin and Reddit, I see many people are frustrated by this change. Actually, it's not clear why we need this feature if we already have the Startup folder." Brilliant move from Morons HQ!!
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So if you had UWP games running then it will also startup automatically when I'm presenting a Powerpoint based slideshow.Great idea, I think.
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A master piece of junk. The M$ engineers have to go on crack. Something must it be. Next level on stupidity will be all apps/software, whatever they are closed or open will automatically load up after shutdown/restart. They have to kill it!! I mean this never ending tragedy OS Service
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Windows 10 Tweaks and Fixes (Index post #1)
Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jul 31, 2015.